Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Your back tracking is spectacular.

What? Can't wait for your explanation to this. Go on, show me the backtracking.

I'll put the popcorn in the microwave

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.

Your back tracking is spectacular.

Will I Am Not

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.

Ah sure yeah. Goodnight.

anewme

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I didn't say there was an excuse for it. My point was that teenagers can be rowdy for the sake of it and there's a way of handling it.

You also never stated in your original post that it was your third time going out to them. You implied you had stormed out and given out to them for an accident like some old grump.

Interesting how it's all 'Black' this and 'white' that in your posts about it though. All I see is a few rowdy teenagers acting up when they are being told what to do (which teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colours will tend to do believe it or not).

I was a narky grump definitely. Anyone who’s knows me knows I’m a fusspot over the car and I dont want the ball kicked st it constantly.

You are being condescending again by inferring “there’s a way of dealing with it” and I’m obviously to thickyo know How to deal with it the way you would do, because you are right and I must be wrong.
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Can you show me where it’s all black this and white that in my posts? I’ve clearly said I never mentioned race when I went out.

You see what you want to see and I see the reality because it happened to me.

If you think that waving a fist someone’s face and saying black power threateningly is just rowdy teenagers and should be accepted it says more about you.

For me, thank fck I’m out of there.

The reality is.... most middle class people in their mostly middle class areas are not impacted by these issues. They dint have taxis refusing to bring them home because if attack’s. They don’t live in areas where this type of crap goes on, they don’t accept it could happen or make excuses just like you.

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

I couldn’t give a sh*te how you or anyone else thinks I look. Your posts are there for everyone to see and I’d be surprised if many would draw a different conclusion.

You tried to excuse a racial taunt from a black person and having noticed some of your posts around here I concluded that you wouldn’t excuse it from a white person. Lock me up!!!

Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.

Will I Am Not

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

So now you've moved on to:
1. Imagining something I might post, if
2. hypothetically a boards user made a post
3. about a scenario that didn't happen?

You can stand by that if you like, but you're making yourself look quite the fool by doing so. Maybe that's the look you're going for? Who knows, I'm not going to assume I know what you are striving for here.

I couldn’t give a sh*te how you or anyone else thinks I look. Your posts are there for everyone to see and I’d be surprised if many would draw a different conclusion.

You tried to excuse a racial taunt from a black person and having noticed some of your posts around here I concluded that you wouldn’t excuse it from a white person. Lock me up!!!

Wibbs

Brian? wrote: »

What question? All I saw was the expected hand wringing about “social issues”.

Deflection. These are the facts. Ireland has its own "social issues". Countries with immigration beyond a certain percentage also have "social issues", but they have extra "social issues" entirely based on the immigrant population and the indigenous population clashing. N.B. I say both sides are guilty of it.

Avoiding the problems of immigrants integrating into society will have nothing to do with magic. If it happens it will be because we learn from our neighbours.

So yeah. Magic. At best a well intentioned hope. Nobody has so far "learned from their neighbours". Not one.

Deciding to generalise immigrants based on their skin time is part of the problem.

I didn't. Different skin colours just exacerbate existing tribalism, because it's easier for retards of all hues to point at the "other".

Brian? wrote: »

That’s some serious pontification.

Bugger me the irony is strong in this statement.

No one is denying there could be potential issues.

So again B, why import "potential issues" when we can chose to limit such issues out the gate? Simple question really.

People like you are part of the issue.

Oh sure, god forbid I point out holes in the multicultural argument.

Generalisation based on race is part of the problem. It leads to marginalisation and discrimination. Once ethnic minorities are marginalised you can then shout “I told you this wouldn’t work”. It’s exactly what happened in Britain and I can see it happening here.

Now we're finally getting somewhere. Yes we agree. :eek: We both can see it happening here in Ireland. It's already started as much of this thread illustrates. The difference between us is you hope we can navigate this and all be one big melting pot, because that's the right thing to do. And guess what B? I bloody well agree with you. It is the right thing to do. But ranged against that is I am a realist and the reality is it never works out. It adds to the fracture in a country and people. On all sides.

Is this the singular cause of the social issues in Britains ghettos? No. Is it a contributing factor? Yes.

Again why run this social experiment again, here? As Einstein apparently said: “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result each time”. And here we are again voting for insanity.

This narrow minded bull **** only makes things worse

One could argue we're both blessed with the ability to look through a keyhole with both eyes at once, the only difference being is that I can point to a myriad of examples where I've been proven more right than wrong and you would have a hard time to point out one example where you were more right than wrong.

Bambi wrote: »

And yet still around 73% paleface

Indeed. The original locals might have a point to pick regarding how immigration affected them.

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

The skin colour part wasn’t in your post but you absolutely would not be making excuses for someone saying ‘white power’. Not in a million years and rightly so but you did for the black kid, so yeah, I still stand by what I said.

So now you've moved on to:
1. Imagining something I might post, if
2. hypothetically a boards user made a post
3. about a scenario that didn't happen?

You can stand by that if you like, but you're making yourself look quite the fool by doing so. Maybe that's the look you're going for? Who knows, I'm not going to assume I know what you are striving for here.

The_Kew_Tour

Odhinn wrote: »

well people get selective about what "ordinary person" they quote. The country is still ranked as one of the best places to live in the world, however, which rather undermines the notion its a cesspit.

I never said it was. I said in my first post it's great place to live.

my point is that a liberal thinking country is now changing it's tune.

my question is what will Ireland do different?

what makes us special?

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Everybody is wrong, only you are right.

Personalising the comment in order to avoid the facts.

If it was true, why wouldn't the media report on it?

Odhinn wrote: »

I thought the media were wrong too? And the people that rank countries?

Everybody is wrong, only you are right.

Sweetemotion wrote: »

You know what? That's it, it's just a load of mickey.

You are right everybody else is wrong.

I thought the media were wrong too? And the people that rank countries?

Rumpy Pumpy

Odhinn wrote: »

well people get selective about what "ordinary person" they quote. The country is still ranked as one of the best places to live in the world, however, which rather undermines the notion its a cesspit.

Thought a committed socialist such as yourself would fundamentally disagree with that ranking. People under the oppressive yoke of the employer class and all that. Profit before people.

Odhinn wrote: »

....because its a load of mickey?

You know what? That's it, it's just a load of mickey.

You are right everybody else is wrong.

Sweetemotion wrote: »

It is the people who are saying there are issues, They see it from living there.

Why are the media not reporting it?

....because its a load of mickey?

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

which to be fair it's not. Going by their media and on ground the ordinary person in gemetal feels it's been a bad move

well people get selective about what "ordinary person" they quote. The country is still ranked as one of the best places to live in the world, however, which rather undermines the notion its a cesspit.

Odhinn wrote: »

If they are hidden why would people be able to say there are issues, logically?

It is the people who are saying there are issues, They see it from living there.

Why are the media not reporting it?

The_Kew_Tour

Odhinn wrote: »

If the issues were that bad, then surely it wouldn't be still rated so highly?

Unless of course those issues were exaggerated out of all proportion.....

which to be fair it's not. Going by their media and on ground the ordinary person in generally feels it's been a bad move

anewme wrote: »

can you clarify what you mean please.?

Are you saying that did not happen.

I am relating a first hand experience.

Why would you say that?

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Because of years about hearing about cars being bought by social welfare, free prams left at bustops, "de foreigners" openly "laughin at us" in conversation etc and so on.

anewme

Odhinn wrote: »

We're taking the anecdotal as fact now?

can you clarify what you mean please.?

Are you saying that did not happen.

I am relating a first hand experience.

Why would you say that?

I’d you are saying that it did not happen then you are calling me a liar and that’s not acceptable and an insult to my integrity.

Will I Am Not

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I never even mentioned the colour of their skin in my post, so you've literally tried to make up some point I never made. You can stand by what you said all you like by it only makes you look like an idiot if you're going to accuse me of saying something that clearly isn't in my post.

I've reported your post anyway so hopefully the mods will take care of you.

The skin colour part wasn’t in your post but you absolutely would not be making excuses for someone saying ‘white power’. Not in a million years and rightly so but you did for the black kid, so yeah, I still stand by what I said.

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Or hidden.

If they are hidden why would people be able to say there are issues, logically?

Odhinn wrote: »

If the issues were that bad, then surely it wouldn't be still rated so highly?

Unless of course those issues were exaggerated out of all proportion.....

Or hidden.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

why are Sweden getting it so wrong?

they are having issues yet it's meant be one of best countries to live in.

so what can we do that Sweden cant?

If the issues were that bad, then surely it wouldn't be still rated so highly?

Unless of course those issues were exaggerated out of all proportion.....

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I never even mentioned the colour of their skin in my post, so you've literally tried to make up some point I never made. You can stand by what you said all you like by it only makes you look like an idiot if you're going to accuse me of saying something that clearly isn't in my post.

I've reported your post anyway so hopefully the mods will take care of you.

anewme wrote: »

You were making excuses for racist abuse and blaming it on the white person in a very condescending manner. You should learn to be nicer attitude and it would not happen.

There’s no excuse for waving a fist in a woman's face and saying black power threateningly.

None.

I didn't say there was an excuse for it. My point was that teenagers can be rowdy for the sake of it and there's a way of handling it.

You also never stated in your original post that it was your third time going out to them. You implied you had stormed out and given out to them for an accident like some old grump.

Interesting how it's all 'Black' this and 'white' that in your posts about it though. All I see is a few rowdy teenagers acting up when they are being told what to do (which teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colours will tend to do believe it or not).