Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

end of the road wrote: »

that would mean britain having to pay for the staff to enforce the border. that's hardly likely now is it?

Which border? The one between NI and ROI or the actual border of GB?

Surely if they pull out of Europe they'll have a stringent border control for GB? I wouldn't be too sure what the situation will be between NI and ROI though.

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Is there any particular reason you dont accept the Gardai summation on this, you know, the people who interviewed him?

How can you believe a word the Gardai say about this.

1. They claim they have his name and age, however cant confirm his nationality infornt of a judge in court. Now how did they confirm his name and age if they have no official document to confirm it??? Documents needed for this would be a passport or birth certificate...which they clearly havent got....so basically he told them his name and age and they believe him.

2. Why did the Gardai instruct for the removal of a facebook profile and pictures that were claimed to be the attacker by an Irish facebook page??? The pictures and profile where shared with political parties, news papers, action groups and Gardai.....none of them have mentioned it.

3. Why havent they made a statement to the squat he was staying in and what they removed from it soon after his arrest (kill off news paper speculation) ??? A house which is not lived in but looked after, lights go on and off in the evening, gardens are in ok condition and some neighbours were suprised that it wasnt lived in. How did Morei know this house was not lived in and that he could use it. It is not in the center of town and he would have to go off the beaten track to find it, watch it and break in. That all in 2-3 days???

4. Why havent they followed suit with other EU countries and said it like it is??? Belgiums, Germans, Swedish, French, Spanish......they all keep their citizens updated in such cases, maybe not the info people want but info is released as soon as something new of public interest is known. However Ireland which has a streched police/military are keeping shut and saying he is to get a fair trial(whenever that is or if he doesnt commit suicide before).....One question the the Garda commisioner should maybe answer....how many extra Gardai would be needed if it was a terror attack and how would they secure the border and Irish citizens???

Somehow I have a feeling that the Gardai and co dont want it to be a terror attack. Would bring too many problems and complications with it. Better if it is a young man who was mixed up....could have been anyone.

He has an account here. What way does that work in regard to calling him a c*nt and a far right fruit loop etc?

Odhinn wrote: »

Because they're following the usual procedure followed in this country.

Get away out of that...there is a feud going on in Dublin between 2 families and you can read about it and its targets on a daily/weekly basis in the press. Funny how the press know exactly who has been informed that their lives are at risk and who the Gardai are speaking too/monitoring. The Gardai speak when it suits them.

recedite wrote: »

Especially as they encountered him a day or two before the attack, discovered he was an illegal immigrant, but instead of detaining him they advised him to head for Dublin.

Its just as well he didn't get there, because there might have been a lot more fatalities in a big crowd compared to the sparse number of victims he caught in the actual attack.

You mean its lucky he didnt get into Dundalks town center....;)

recedite wrote: »

Especially as they encountered him a day or two before the attack, discovered he was an illegal immigrant, but instead of detaining him they advised him to head for Dublin.

Its just as well he didn't get there, because there might have been a lot more fatalities in a big crowd compared to the sparse number of victims he caught in the actual attack.

This is one reason I think he was deranged rather than a terrorist. He attacked in a quiet area of town. He could have gone to the Marshes shopping centre and injured or killed dozens of people. If his aim was to take as many people with him as possible he would have seen from squatting on the Avenue Road that it was not the place to do it.

Odhinn wrote: »

He's an arrogant far right fruit loop - a nobody really. He thinks israel is some bulwark against an islamic invasion - mad stuff.

Reported your post abuse of active boards member!

recedite wrote: »

Especially as they encountered him a day or two before the attack, discovered he was an illegal immigrant, but instead of detaining him they advised him to head for Dublin.

Its just as well he didn't get there, because there might have been a lot more fatalities in a big crowd compared to the sparse number of victims he caught in the actual attack.

this is what the ST says via their garda sources

He was taken to the Irish Naturalisation and Immigration Service (INIS) in Dublin after indicating that he wished to apply for asylum, and was offered temporary accommodation in a direct provision centre.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eu-inquiry-on-identity-of-stabbing-suspect-kf0zddxzb

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Thought it was only the "leftist snowflakes" who got offended over nothing?

Why? you lefties as you call yourself pretty quick to hit the report button on other members Mark has contributed to a number of threads on here and should have the same rights applied as all other posters on here.

RasTa wrote: »

He writes for the Sun, that's all I need to know.

Can you at least get your facts right! Mark writes for The Sunday Times and not The Sun!

Grayson wrote: »

Which one?

Btw I did get a warning for that. Haven't had one in ages.

I don't think I've ever reported someone for being nasty to me and I've been called many things.


So anyway, how about this. I have no time for strident ideologues like that. The guy thinks that anyone who criticises Israeli actions about anything at all is a jew hater. He thinks that anyone who sees the oppression of a people and calls it out is anti semetic. He claims to be in favour of free speech but he's quite happy that Israel have banned people who belong to the BDS movement (a 100% peaceful organisation).

And he retweets stuff like this.

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/949736708563718144

He's also retweeted stuff saying that the BBC are conspiracy theorists, that islam will collapse the west and that amnesty should be defunded because they highlight the plight of an abused muslim. He also believes that anything vaguely socialist is evil and that anything short of free market economies will lead to oppression.

The guy doesn't have well formed opinions. Pretty much every single tweet is about Israel or Muslims. And it's always Israel = good. Muslims= bad.


If you want to you can report this post. All I've done is accurately reflect his views here. They're all on twitter or on his website (which is a painful website to navigate. Whoever designed and maintains that should be sectioned. It's insanely confusing to navigate).

Edited because of my crappy keyboard.

Well you could have said all that above rather the the he’s a C-word!

recedite wrote: »

There are lots of possibilities, maybe that was only meant to be a diversionary attack if he intended to get a taxi into Dundalk town centre.

Is there some suggestion that the house could have been part of a safe house network rented by or owned by people in ROI?

I seems unlikely he would have gone to Dublin, applied for asylum, and then made it back to the house in Dundalk within the timeframe, but maybe its true, who knows. If he knew his way round quite well, and knew the trains, he could do it. Or if somebody was helping him.

The house is owned by a local family. Currently not lived in but kept quite well all the same. Question is how did he know to go to that house if he was only in Dundalk from the 01.01.2018 as the Gardai would like us to believe.

As for a diversion attack....I would think he was trying to spread Garda and emergency services resources. May have been his plan to keep attacking until they got to him and he was sure he would get to the town center.