Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

pitifulgod wrote: »

I have no idea if they're Irish, I haven't concluded what nationality anyone is based on skin colour.... Only person who made conclusions is the op.

Aren't you just great. Good for you. Mr perfect.

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

I don’t know what racist means anymore. I’ve often described someone as ‘foreign looking’
Does that make me racist?

Yes apparently.

Is saying African American now racist because that's based on skin colour?

If there is a problem with first generation blacks who were born here causing trouble then their parents who got citizenship here should remind them that if it wasn't for our country giving them a safe place to live in their lives might not be as cushy as it is at the moment.

Imagine you are born in Ireland. You had no choice in the matter, it's just where you were born.
However, you don't feel Irish. Probably because you aren't treated as Irish. You are referred to as a "non national" and and people constantly ask you where you are from.
You are picked on in school for being foreign.
You are excluded by local kids and often racially abused.

In those circumstances, as a teenager, I could see myself joining a gang of kids like me. I'd feel safer. I'd feel included.

Unfortunately, gangs of teens will be gangs of teens.

Aegir wrote: »

Yes, I agree.

My point is that simply describing a bunch of scroates in a newspaper as “Black” isn’t helpful. It doesn’t exactly narrow down the suspects and just gives fuel to the racists.

The article linked mentions that the latest culprits were black teenagers and suddenly there’s all sorts of discussions about immigration, ghettos, anti social families etc. to the bigots, this type of story is music to their ears.

That’s why newspapers tend not to describe a gang of black lads up to no good as a group of...black lads up to no good. It doesn’t help anyone but the racists.

Is the 'racism problem' in Ireland really as big as you perceive it to be? From my point of view everyone who came here was/is given a fair roll of the dice regardless of religion, sexual orientation, skin color etc... and if it didn't work out for them they were/are given social benefits etc...

Yes some people are going to be naturally racist but, assuming your white, if you found yourself wandering down a street in the home countries of some of these minorities you so egarily defend you wouldn't be long finding out how bad racism really can be.

Also, i've read all your posts on this thread so far, other posters have continually tried to reason with you but your so convinced your right, and some sort of champion for human rights, you think everyone who disagrees with you is a racist.

It is my belief that you are consuming too much americanised bull-sh1t on the internet and need to step out into the real world for a change if only just to get some perspective for a change.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

There are videos of the gang that hangs around ongar/tyrellstown on Youtube. Funny how only a couple have Irish accents.

I met a guy that was born and bred it Italy, never spent any time outside it apart from visiting Grandparents occasionally.

He spoke English with a perfect Glaswegian accent.

It's almost as though kids pick up on things, like accents, from their parents. Funny that.

People usually learn to speak English like that. Uk English. It’s a thing. But apparently I’m to believe these individuals are all totally Irish and just talking in English accents and African accents because their parents talk like that?

Billy86 wrote: »

No, but if you insisted they couldn't be from Ireland because of their skin colour, then it would be.

care to bring up a few examples of where somebody says you are not Irish if you are of a different skin color?

homerjay2005 wrote: »

care to bring up a few examples of where somebody says you are not Irish if you are of a different skin color?

The OP...........

Kivaro wrote: »

I was thinking about that.
Then one could also think about the legitimacy of some of their asylum claims in the first instance if that is how they are letting their children behave.

I have no clue how tens of thousands of Nigerians were able to get Irish citizenship over the years e.g. how many countries did they have to pass through to reach Ireland in order to claim asylum? Citizens of other African countries could have claimed wars or FGM or tribal issues in order to seek asylum in Ireland, but you would have to wonder why the overwhelmingly vast majority were Nigerian. You'd almost think it was organised.

I'd suggest some of these teenagers parents and quite a few Africans nationwide probably got citizenship because of the loophole in Irish law prior to 2004 which granted citizenship to non EU individuals if they that a kid born in Ireland.

Amazingly Labour, SF and the Greens were against closing the loophole.

the beer revolu wrote: »

It granted citizenship to the child, not the parents.

Yes you're right, my mistake

biko wrote: »

Lefties call them African Irish because lefties are too ignorant to understand Africa is a continent and not a country.

As far as I can see only two people have used that term in this thread and neither of you appear to be "lefties".

pitifulgod wrote: »

The op assumed non nationals because skin colour was referenced... So there you go...

ill repeat my question-

care to bring up a few examples of where somebody says you are not Irish if you are of a different skin color?

you assuming that the OP assumed something is not an example of what is being accused on this thread.

let me ask you a question, if you and your mates were in a foreign country and see somebody who has orange/ginger hair and pale skin and your mate says "he is probably be Irish" would you label your mate a racist?