Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

BalcombeSt4 · 06-01-2018 07:21PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Dr Brown titled it the thread as "Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin."

I've no problem with them being called black teenagers, but he has just assumed that they're not Irish because they're black. That's a bit racist.

I would say it's very racist.

Odhinn · 06-01-2018 07:25PM

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

That’s in reply to those complaining that the description of the gang included skin colour.

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Nobody here has. Not once, afaik. You might show me where, otherwise.

Galwayguy35 · 06-01-2018 07:36PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Nobody here has. Not once, afaik. You might show me where, otherwise.

Yes they have.

You should have read the thread before commenting.

Will I Am Not · 06-01-2018 07:44PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Nobody here has. Not once, afaik. You might show me where, otherwise.

There you go. And the 3 posters who thanked it.

Aegir wrote: »

why does the publication need to say that it is a gang of Black Lads? Would they also say that a murder was carried out by a white guy, or a ginger?

If your car was trashed by a gang of fifteen youths, is it somehow different if those youths were black, white, blue or purple?

Odhinn · 06-01-2018 08:34PM

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

There you go. And the 3 posters who thanked it.

Right, one guy, I stand corrected.

humberklog · 06-01-2018 08:36PM

I wonder what's up (if anything) within some of the African Irish community in Ireland?

It's not the 1st time that gangs of them have come to the attention of the authorities, media and social media in recent years.
Before there's a pile in with "but white kids are worse..." I'm working on rough numbers via the CSO and I'm fully aware of the anti social behaviour of white Irish teens (I was one).
For the amount of African background kids as opposed to Asian (for e.g.) they do appear to have formed more anti social gangs in recent years than their Asian Irish brethren.
I also haven't come across gangs of 1st generation Irish teens with Polish, Romanian, Lithuanian, Latvian, UK, Spanish or Brazilian backgrounds making the headlines in a negative way.

I think it's helpful to publicly identify a demographic of society when there's an appearance of an aberration of behaviour (particularly anti social) within it as it might help highlight a problem that that society could be dealing with better and it asks questions of the national society if there's a problem with how it's handling integration of all diversities.

It'd be a shame to sleepwalk into deeper problems in the near future when there may be early warning signs right now.

Will I Am Not · 06-01-2018 08:44PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Right, one guy, I stand corrected.

I like the way someone thanked your post well after it was rebutted

Wheeliebin30 · 06-01-2018 08:45PM

Ah stop would you.

What would be the first thing one of these pc liberals would say to the gards when they ask for a description if they woke up to a black person in their rooms robbing them blind?

Pathetic.

Odhinn · 06-01-2018 08:50PM

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

I like the way someone thanked your post well after it was rebutted

I've seen posts with a clear, referenced rebuttal below gather thanks into the tens, twenties and up and onward. And when the same subject comes up again, the same claim is made again. You wonder on occassion why we still aren't making offerings to placate the spirits of the hearth fire, sitting in caves.

Beechwoodspark · 06-01-2018 09:13PM

There’s something sadly inevitable about the emergence of this type of “gang culture” in Ireland.

It’s terrible that people spoke up and listed the potential problems that would arise but they were either demonised or ignored by the do gooders and political class.

I include the far left “working class hero” types (shinners and the loony left) in this along with the right wingers who couldn’t care less about the problems in less affluent areas.

Sleeper12 · 06-01-2018 09:20PM

I don't think the issue is with them being reported as being black. That's not racist. The racism kicks in when someone assumes that because they are black that they can't be Irish.

Captain Obvious · 06-01-2018 09:26PM

humberklog wrote: »

I wonder what's up (if anything) within some of the African Irish community in Ireland?

It's not the 1st time that gangs of them have come to the attention of the authorities, media and social media in recent years.
Before there's a pile in with "but white kids are worse..." I'm working on rough numbers via the CSO and I'm fully aware of the anti social behaviour of white Irish teens (I was one).
For the amount of African background kids as opposed to Asian (for e.g.) they do appear to have formed more anti social gangs in recent years than their Asian Irish brethren.
I also haven't come across gangs of 1st generation Irish teens with Polish, Romanian, Lithuanian, Latvian, UK, Spanish or Brazilian backgrounds making the headlines in a negative way.

I think it's helpful to publicly identify a demographic of society when there's an appearance of an aberration of behaviour (particularly anti social) within it as it might help highlight a problem that that society could be dealing with better and it asks questions of the national society if there's a problem with how it's handling integration of all diversities.

It'd be a shame to sleepwalk into deeper problems in the near future when there may be early warning signs right now.

Is your claim of anti social gangs of non-nationals backed up by any kind of crime stats? Even anecdotal evidence from courts? Prison statistics?

humberklog · 06-01-2018 09:37PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Is your claim of anti social gangs of non-nationals backed up by any kind of crime stats? Even anecdotal evidence from courts? Prison statistics?

Whoooo the f- up there horse...where in my post do I say non nationals?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 06-01-2018 09:38PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've a black brother & sister both in their 50s and both born and bred Irish. Ever hear of Phyl lynott? Paul MaGrah?

Which of them is your sister, Phyl or Paul?.

nullzero · 06-01-2018 09:42PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

There’s something sadly inevitable about the emergence of this type of “gang culture” in Ireland.

It’s terrible that people spoke up and listed the potential problems that would arise but they were either demonised or ignored by the do gooders and political class.

I include the far left “working class hero” types (shinners and the loony left) in this along with the right wingers who couldn’t care less about the problems in less affluent areas.

It's one thing to pass judgment from afar and a completely other thing to live a situation.
So much of the nonsensical argument on this site comes from people who have no experience of situations but still feel the need take the moral high ground where everybody is inherently good and deserves the benefit of the doubt even though the most rudimentary level of research shows otherwise.

As for the ethnicity of the people involved in this situation, I'm not sure how important it is. Youths from that background are mostly better behaved than their native counterparts (although these youths are most likely Irish citizens, perhaps we need to re examine what constitutes an Irish person) but all youths have the potential to involve themselves is anti social behaviour in the right or perhaps wrong circumstances.

Captain Obvious · 06-01-2018 10:29PM

humberklog wrote: »

Whoooo the f- up there horse...where in my post do I say non nationals?

Here

For the amount of African background kids as opposed to Asian (for e.g.) they do appear to have formed more anti social gangs in recent years than their Asian Irish brethren.

But even assuming you weren't referring to non-nationals my question still stands.

humberklog · 06-01-2018 10:38PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Here

But even assuming you weren't referring to non-nationals my question still stands.

You assume correctly this time.

Nope. Nope. Nope.

Hilly Bill · 06-01-2018 11:18PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Anyone here from Tyrellstown ?

There are reports of Taxi drivers getting attacked by Non-Nationals in the area.

http://www.thejournal.ie/taxi-clonee-robbery-gang-3777282-Jan2018/

Not just taxi drivers, take away delivery drivers have been robbed and assaulted in D15. The guards know who they are as they arrested one of the so called leader of the group. They may be from Ongar rather than from tyrrelstown.

Hilly Bill · 06-01-2018 11:24PM

Phil.x wrote: »

It's well know that here in d15 there is a antisocial black family that have being moved from tyrrelstown to clonee by fingal county council.

Only one solution if they continue to be anti social. It would free up a house for someone that may be a better tenant.

Hilly Bill · 06-01-2018 11:32PM

Hoboo wrote: »

The NTA needs to sit down with NWA and sort this out once and for all.

At the NAC in D15

Brian? · 07-01-2018 12:13AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Ah stop would you.

What would be the first thing one of these pc liberals would say to the gards when they ask for a description if they woke up to a black person in their rooms robbing them blind?

Pathetic.

Was PC Liberals a minor character on The Bill?

Wheeliebin30 · 07-01-2018 01:18AM

Brian? wrote: »

Was PC Liberals a minor character on The Bill?

What's the bill?

Sweetemotion · 07-01-2018 01:19AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I don't think the issue is with them being reported as being black. That's not racist. The racism kicks in when someone assumes that because they are black that they can't be Irish.

How is it racist?

pitifulgod · 07-01-2018 01:24AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

How is it racist?

Because one can be black and Irish, it's not very complex...

Sweetemotion · 07-01-2018 01:26AM

pitifulgod wrote: »

Because one can be black and Irish, it's not very complex...

What if he is black and African and you assume he is Irish. Does that then make you the racist?

pitifulgod · 07-01-2018 01:29AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

What if he is black and African and you assume he is Irish. Does that then make you the racist?

I have no idea if they're Irish, I haven't concluded what nationality anyone is based on skin colour.... Only person who made conclusions is the op.

mzungu · 07-01-2018 01:34AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What's the bill?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liUOx1LGEWc

Wheeliebin30 · 07-01-2018 01:37AM

mzungu wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liUOx1LGEWc

Don't get it.

dQuetour · 07-01-2018 01:38AM

Those pesky Krakozhians, up to no good again.

Hilly Bill · 07-01-2018 01:43AM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What's the bill?

€57 plus service charge.

Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

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