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_Dara_ · 05-01-2018 11:21PM

Arghus wrote: »

The point is that even after taking your arguments on board and understanding why you hold them - it still comes back to that basic question for a lot of us: why don't you just ignore them?

Because ignoring them doesn't solve the issue I and others have with them. They take up a lot of room on the front page, crowding out others, to serve the need of a relatively small number of posters. They are taking from the vibrancy of the forum and not giving new threads a chance (even interesting, engaging topics need time to take hold). I have observed that I am less in interested in AH than I once was because it appears so stale much of the time. My ignoring them doesn't solve any of that.

Why was there always such strong rule in place site-wide about chat threads if they weren't an issue? Why are they deemed to be no problem now? And how many can we expect? Will they be capped?

GreeBo · 05-01-2018 11:23PM

Arghus wrote: »

Well, you could.

Please explain how?
Maybe we are all just missing a setting

Vela · 05-01-2018 11:23PM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Well, fair enough. But that doesn't mean I don't have a point. It just means you don't agree.

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No argument there.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 05-01-2018 11:23PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Save yourself the hassle and use desktop mode.
Lack of breadcrumbs is a ridiculous oversight, it's not 1992 anymore.

Just tried desktop and responsive there, I suppose I do have a phone with a small screen compared to a lot that are around these days but it's fairly cumbersome to use desktop on it.

And holy God almighty people weren't exaggerating about the responsive site, it's beyond bad. I thought I was stuck on it for a very panicky moment or two.

Arghus · 05-01-2018 11:24PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Please explain how?
Maybe we are all just missing a setting

Maybe you are...

_Dara_ · 05-01-2018 11:25PM

Arghus wrote: »

I appreciate that you are making your case in good faith and you've put forward reasoned arguments to outline your position, but I can't magically agree with you if I don't think you are right.

I'm not saying people have to agree with me. But there does appear to be a wilful determination to not concede that there might be some part of what we are saying that makes some sense. Some people posting here have admitted that they are defensive on behalf of the chat threads and that does seem to be clouding their views.

I think AH could handle two or maybe three chat threads. I think that's doable and fair and strikes a balance. And I think that's enough. How many are needed?

GreeBo · 05-01-2018 11:26PM

Arghus wrote: »

Maybe you are...

Really dude?
That's your contribution?

Arghus · 05-01-2018 11:28PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Really dude?
That's your contribution?

Well I don't know, I felt like I didn't really have to much to say. You want my advice in how to ignore things? Just for this instance or for real life in general?

_Dara_ · 05-01-2018 11:37PM

This thread has actually made me feel depressed. I'm too involved. Officially retiring from it. I can say no more, you'll be relieved to read.

GreeBo · 05-01-2018 11:42PM

Arghus wrote: »

Well I don't know, I felt like I didn't really have to much to say. You want my advice in how to ignore things? Just for this instance or for real life in general?

No.
You posted that by ignoring threads they would somehow be removed from the first page and I asked you how?
Was it just nonsense?

GreeBo · 05-01-2018 11:48PM

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

The threads in question are no where to be seen on the front page now, no precious forum space being clogged up, Happy now?

And now they are back.
Again
As usual.

Without any snide remark required by me.

Arghus · 05-01-2018 11:49PM

GreeBo wrote: »

No.
You posted that by ignoring threads they would somehow be removed from the first page and I asked you how?
Was it just nonsense?

If I had said that it would be nonsense - but that is not what I said.

I said that you as an individual user can make a choice to ignore them. They will still be there - I am not literally saying that they will be removed from the front-page. I'm making the point that you can ignore them, in the most literal sense of the word: you can scroll past them, you can click on threads around them, you can click on page two or three - y'know ignore them? Most of the time that's exactly what I do.

Beasty · 05-01-2018 11:54PM

Guys, I think the signal to noise ratio is veering quite a way towards the noise end

Rather than clogging this thread with comments challenging each other's position can we try and get back to some constructive feedback

Thanking you in anticipation (indeed with bated breath!)

GreeBo · 06-01-2018 12:11AM

Arghus wrote: »

If I had said that it would be nonsense - but that is not what I said.

That's exactly what you said?

GreeBo wrote: »

We can't ignore them off the first page.

Arghus wrote: »

Well, you could.

Arghus · 06-01-2018 12:15AM

GreeBo wrote: »

That's exactly what you said?

You can ignore them...with your mind?

How is that so hard to grasp?

I don't know what else to add?

Tom Mann Centuria · 06-01-2018 12:18AM

How about we all link arms and sing a song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxW3-eqJQcI

Mountainsandh · 06-01-2018 12:23AM

The idea of a setting to hide some threads is not a bad one isn't it ? Just like you can follow or unfollow, or ignore a user, you could hide a thread ?
That way whoever is bothered by chat threads could remove them as an individual setting.

Maybe that completely un-achievable technically ?

06-01-2018 12:26AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

The idea of a setting to hide some threads is not a bad one isn't it ? Just like you can follow or unfollow, or ignore a user, you could hide a thread ?
That way whoever is bothered by chat threads could remove them as an individual setting.

Maybe that completely un-achievable technically ?

Should not be that difficult, after all you can subscribe to a thread so you should be able to hide one as well. It's just finding the right switch in the utlis to enable the function.

BowSideChamp · 06-01-2018 12:30AM

Beasty wrote: »

Can we try and get back to some constructive feedback

In mobile, when you read a thread and decide you want to post a response to something. You log in. And then, are directed back to the home page of boards.ie, away from the thread/forum you wanted to reply to and are forced to wade through the endless navigation menus to get back to where you were. Most of the time I could not be arsed.

OldMrBrennan83 · 06-01-2018 12:34AM

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Beasty · 06-01-2018 12:38AM

There are limited technical resources for the site and they seem to be heavily devoted to keeping things ticking over. I know a few of the suggestions being put forward are for the site development guys to consider, and quite a few have been on their list to consider for some time. Alas they seem to struggle to find the time with other priorities to consider

I'm sure though that if it is a straightforward suggestion they could find the time to flick the relevant switch(es) if there is general support for a change

Esel · 06-01-2018 12:40AM

BowSideChamp wrote: »

In mobile, when you read a thread and decide you want to post a response to something. You log in. And then, are directed back to the home page of boards.ie, away from the thread/forum you wanted to reply to and are forced to wade through the endless navigation menus to get back to where you were. Most of the time I could not be arsed.

Stay logged in?

OldMrBrennan83 · 06-01-2018 12:41AM

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BowSideChamp · 06-01-2018 12:48AM

Patww79 wrote: »

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Thread tags was the best thing about After Hours. Anyone remember them?

GreeBo · 06-01-2018 12:49AM

Beasty wrote: »

There are limited technical resources for the site and they seem to be heavily devoted to keeping things ticking over. I know a few of the suggestions being put forward are for the site development guys to consider, and quite a few have been on their list to consider for some time. Alas they seem to struggle to find the time with other priorities to consider

I'm sure though that if it is a straightforward suggestion they could find the time to flick the relevant switch(es) if there is general support for a change

That answer wears a bit thin after the first 5 years or so.

Look at Virgin/Horizon/NTL

Their useless EPG has people leaving them also, because it's been rubbish for years and ignoreD.

Beasty · 06-01-2018 12:50AM

BowSideChamp wrote: »

Thread tags was the best thing about After Hours. Anyone remember them?

Problem was they were susceptible to abuse IIRC

Tom Mann Centuria · 06-01-2018 12:51AM

Beasty wrote: »

Problem was they were susceptible to abuse IIRC

They were in soccer anyway. Regularly. Admittedly some were quite funny (to the less mature users of the site)

GreeBo · 06-01-2018 12:52AM

Patww79 wrote: »

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If it didn't do that it would be useless...I wouldn't be praising it for doing it's basic job.

It's 2018, this stuff isn't rocket science or even expensive to do anymore... If there was a will to do it.

Somehow a lot of stuff managed to be improved back when it was 2 lads in a garage with no money.

OldMrBrennan83 · 06-01-2018 12:53AM

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