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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • #1442
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    splinter65 wrote: »
    .............
    Nobody knows where he’s from, except you.

    I haven't a clue.


  • #1443
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Well you dragged Pakistan and Afghanistan into it, gave out about their attitude to women and gays, and you mentioned "mainly muslim countries" before.

    Go right ahead and quote the posts where I gave out about their attitude to women and gays so we can discuss it, although It saddens me if you are Irish to hear that you approve of the attitude to women and gays in these countries as it’s pretty piss poor in fairness.


  • #1444
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I haven't a clue.

    Well you seem to know where he’s NOT from.


  • #1445
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Go right ahead and quote the posts where I gave out about their attitude to women and gays so we can discuss it, although It saddens me if you are Irish to hear that you approve of the attitude to women and gays in these countries as it’s pretty piss poor in fairness.

    The tone is obvious
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105742110&postcount=1426

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105739449&postcount=1385

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105725347&postcount=741

    You can stop with the "you approve" crap as well.


  • #1446
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Odhinn wrote: »
    The tone is obvious
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105742110&postcount=1426

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105739449&postcount=1385

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105725347&postcount=741

    You can stop with the "you approve" crap as well.

    So there are no posts with me moaning or complaining about anything so now you’ve decided just don’t like my “tone”?
    Lol. Use the report button to report my tone! Classic !


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  • #1447
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    splinter65 wrote: »
    So there are no posts with me moaning or complaining about anything so now you’ve decided just don’t like my “tone”?
    Lol. Use the report button to report my tone! Classic !

    Yeah, its my imagination.

    If somebody born and bred here doesn't agree with a 12 week abortion limit passed by the dail, does that mean they have to leave?


  • #1448
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Where are Christians in 2017 allowed to throw gay people from atop tall buildings Grayson?
    I know your trying to make this “well ..ok Islam says gays must die...but so does Christianity “
    So where do Christians murder gays now?

    Just on that post, you're wrongly equating (secular) western countries which are formerly strongly christian with christian countries, theres plenty of more primitive christian countries like uganada which treat lgbt people just as bad as most islamic countries

    All religion is bad. If strongly christian people had their way Ireland would still be like it was two generations ago, and gay people were arrested for being gay then. Ireland is a 'christian' country but doesnt have enough devout christians for laws like that to be enforced any longer, same with all of europe and america and south america too more or less. Christianity is simply incidentally being seen as more progressive religion as most christian majority countries are now secular

    On that point though, Im not condoning mass immigration from islamic countries, I agree with you they have huge problems with homophobia and mysoiny and I think allowing millions of them into europe could affect liberal way of life here.
    The problem is that most muslims are very devoutly religious..not necessarily because they're of the islamic faith


  • #1449
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    So it seems that the cops don’t know where he is from and also he is the oldest looking 18 year old I’ve ever seen


  • #1450
    p_singh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭p_singh


    He was from Egypt and not Syria. Attempted asylum in UK, didn't get it.. crossed over illegally to ROI and perhaps just went bat**** crazy. At the end of the day, an illegal immigrant killed a legal one. He should have been dealt with the first time when he was caught without papers by Garda.


  • #1451
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So it seems that the cops don’t know where he is from and also he is the oldest looking 18 year old I’ve ever seen

    Does anyone have a picture of him? Cant find any online


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  • #1452
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a picture of him? Cant find any online

    https://img.rasset.ie/000f2e1c-800.jpg

    Not the mae west


  • #1453
    backspin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    So it seems that the cops don’t know where he is from and also he is the oldest looking 18 year old I’ve ever seen

    There is no way that guy is 18. Its a complete farce. Somewhere between 28 and 32. I think he is in his 30's.

    The media should be reporting it as he claims to be 18.


  • #1454
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Just on that post, you're wrongly equating (secular) western countries which are formerly strongly christian with christian countries, theres plenty of more primitive christian countries like uganada which treat lgbt people just as bad as most islamic countries

    All religion is bad. If strongly christian people had their way Ireland would still be like it was two generations ago, and gay people were arrested for being gay then. Ireland is a 'christian' country but doesnt have enough devout christians for laws like that to be enforced any longer, same with all of europe and america and south america too more or less. Christianity is simply incidentally being seen as more progressive religion as most christian majority countries are now secular

    On that point though, Im not condoning mass immigration from islamic countries, I agree with you they have huge problems with homophobia and mysoiny and I think allowing millions of them into europe could affect liberal way of life here.
    The problem is that most muslims are very devoutly religious..not necessarily because they're of the islamic faith

    you dont need to go back 2 generations for that.


  • #1455
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Odhinn wrote: »
    https://img.rasset.ie/000f2e1c-800.jpg

    Not the mae west

    He doesnt look that old to me, I would actually believe he's 18. Plenty of people around my college who are 18-21 look like him, he definitely wouldn't stand out in a college campus


  • #1456
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,994 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    backspin. wrote: »
    There is no way that guy is 18. Its a complete farce. Somewhere between 28 and 32. I think he is in his 30's.

    The media should be reporting it as he claims to be 18.

    once he is not under 18 his age is irrelevant.


  • #1457
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a picture of him? Cant find any online

    A better one. He could well be the age he says he is or close enough
    https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3345254!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg


  • #1458
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Odhinn wrote: »
    A better one. He could well be the age he says he is or close enough
    https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3345254!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

    He looks a bit older than 18 but then again a lot of young people do look considerably older than their age.
    As I said, he really wouldn't stand out in a college campus. but regardless its pretty irrelevant as it doesnt matter if he's 18 or 81 under the law


  • #1459
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    He looks mid 20s. Better go to spec savers lads and ladies.

    As for where he’s from??? Cops don’t seem to know.


  • #1460
    falinn merking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    Odhinn

    This post in for your consumption and consideration.

    I hate racists.
    I hate discrimination.

    For personal reasons I am not going to go into here I have had to deal with plenty of discrimination in my life.
    Having said all the above that piece of filth entered the country illegally what part of that concept does not compute with you?
    He should have been arrested and deported end of story.

    Would it be ok if I broke into your home?

    There is good and bad everywhere but are you telling me you are happy to let people like that come and go at will?


  • #1461
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Lads lets put it this way........Gardai are trying to sell the public for stupid and I would say 90% dont even realise it.

    They claim he is Syrian/Egypitian....then infront of court claim they are having problems identifying his nationality.

    They claim he is 18......without a passport or other official documents from his country of birth this would be difficult to prove.

    They claim it wasnt terrorist related as there is no link.......
    - Papers claiming they removed radical islamic materials from his squat
    - If they dont know who he is...how can they be sure it wasnt terrorist related.

    Personally I hope he was just a fcuked up young lad that was maybe high or mentally instable....however....

    If it was an isolated terror attack with no offical claims being made would the state formally announce it as one. I doubt it very much...too much to lose with the negative publicity that goes with it. May effect companies decisions to locate in the area, tourism may drop........

    Something that a German reminded me of this morning was that last year one of the attackers in London had an Irish ID card, had lived in Ireland and was married. He was unknown to Irish police before the attack. Proves we know sweet fa and that I suspect will continue in this case.


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  • #1462
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ArthurDayne wrote: »
    I really don't get your example about the North. You're saying that Catholics and Protestants in the North are incompatible despite the fact that they work, mingle and live alongside eachother overwhelmingly in perfect harmony. Do you know why that is --- because we (I am from the North) ignored those who told us to look only at the differences and learned to find the similarities. We ignored those who told us that Protestants were all religious fundamentalist whack jobs with a superior race vibe, and we ignored those who told us that Catholics are all idiotic troublemakers whose true loyalty is to the Pope and will do whatever their Imperial overlord in Rome commands.

    We got over the stereotypes. How different things might have been if we had just done that from the start.

    Also I don't really get the point of the video in the context of this argument. I have never defended the Islamic religion -- I think it's a pack of authoritarian oppressive nonsense, much like its cousin Christianity. Unlike you though, I don't assume that every single Muslim behaves in the exact same way as the people in that video. How many YouTube videos are there of 'Muslim people going about their daily lives and not doing any harm to anybody or telling anyone what to do'? None I guess --- it doesn't make great viewing, and it doesn't suit the agenda.

    By the way, if an Irish woman is raped and becomes pregnant from that -- I think we can all agree that this is an awful and torturous experience. Tell me then, what does our enlightened and female-respecting law say when the rape victim says they do not wish to be subjected to the torment of being forced to bear the offspring of their rapist? But hey -- the burka is a much greater evil right?

    im simply saying i dont like the idea of parallel societies. the idea of a French woman aving to accept middle eastern norms in her own county is appalling

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #1463
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Someone posted a comment on the journal along the lines of -the govt would deny it was terrorism in an effort to save the Irish tourism industry.

    I believe that. They have form for burying “inconvenient” facts over the years.


  • #1464
    ArthurDayne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    silverharp wrote: »
    im simply saying i dont like the idea of parallel societies. the idea of a French woman aving to accept middle eastern norms in her own county is appalling

    How does she have to accept them? The law is the law in France -- as it is here (it is even more secular than here in fact). There are plenty of white Frenchmen who abuse, beat and rape women -- it does not mean that France is a country that tolerates the abuse of women, nor does a video showing some Muslims attempt to boss a woman around suggest that multiculturalism expects women to tolerate "middle eastern norms".

    As for your point about avoiding parallel societies -- that is the very thing I am passionate about avoiding. The trend has been towards multiculturalism over the past few centuries -- human beings now regularly travel and settle far away from their native lands. That is the reality -- there is no going back to a world where we all live on monocultural islands. We have to make multiculturalism work or we will simply sow the seeds of segregation, hatred and conflict ---- as we have seen repeated over and over again in history. We never seem to learn.


  • #1465
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,141 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    There is a good picture of him on the front of the herald, the murdering gimp has a lovely set of braces on his upper teeth, also he looks 24 or 25 to me! In that picture!


  • #1466
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    once he is not under 18 his age is irrelevant.

    Irrelevant to his punishment. Sure what’s the point in finding out his name or nationality, they’re irrelevant sure he’s going to prison, he’ll get a nickname.


  • #1467
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    Irrelevant to his punishment. Sure what’s the point in finding out his name or nationality, they’re irrelevant sure he’s going to prison, he’ll get a nickname.

    Tbf were on a slippy road....if we start handing out different sentences based on name/nationality/or sex even for that matter


    IMO they should irrelevant when it comes to the law


  • #1468
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Yeah, its my imagination.

    If somebody born and bred here doesn't agree with a 12 week abortion limit passed by the dail, does that mean they have to leave?

    This answer doesn’t make any sense. You’ve gone into another thread and are answering posts for there, here. You need to practice debating.


  • #1469
    Asus X540L
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Asus X540L


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Fixed that for you there Cole! It’s also amazing that feminist and some gays are so supportive of such an anti feminist anti gay Cult of Islam. Also in the far left in Europe anti-semitism is rife! But hey keep up the good work. Now I’m going back to do a productive days work! Bye

    Know an Irish girl like that.
    She's a "militant feminist" but loves the cult of Islam and supports traveller's rights. Will have a meltdown if you mention any sort of 'racist' joke unless it's about Jews where she'll be laughing away.


  • #1470
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Verpiss dich wrote: »
    Odhinn

    This post in for your consumption and consideration.

    I hate racists.
    I hate discrimination.

    For personal reasons I am not going to go into here I have had to deal with plenty of discrimination in my life.
    Having said all the above that piece of filth entered the country illegally what part of that concept does not compute with you?
    He should have been arrested and deported end of story.

    Would it be ok if I broke into your home?

    There is good and bad everywhere but are you telling me you are happy to let people like that come and go at will?

    Odhinn will now answer you with a post regarding the price of free range eggs in Hungary.


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  • #1471
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Can he be tried without any verifiable identity.


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