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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • #1322
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,160 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Noel82 wrote:
    You were being disingenuous, you knew what I meant. When the facts come out people like you disappear. No doubt you'll be back tomorrow telling everyone how great Europe is doing and everything that says otherwise is sensationalized right wing rubbish.

    "People like you" SMH. You don't like counter arguments do you.

    When I said I'm out, I mean I've had enough trying to get my viewpoint across.

    I haven't said there aren't problems with cultural integration. I have problems with dramatic sensationalism and presenting extreme cases as the norm.

    I fully intend not being back here tomorrow.


  • #1323
    fieldsforever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭fieldsforever


    Noel82 wrote: »
    Gays were being thrown off buildings and Women were forced to cover themselves up in black heat seeking garments in Ireland 20 years ago were they? You're talking out of your arse. Check liveleak or other sites to actually see what goes on in these countries on a regular occurrence as forms as punishment. It's utterly barbaric and it wasn't happening in Ireland 200 years ago, let alone 20.

    You like the rest, want to appear as the moral authority while at the same defend a culture that directly contradicts the rights you seek to defend. For those reasons you are a hypocrite and because people of similar hypocrisy have gotten into power Politically, it's only a matter of time - not when parts of Europe being to emulate this great culture that only needs a couple of decades to sort itself out, even though every trend in history points the other way. We are already seeing it.

    Bravo.

    Difficulty phrasing this because though some may say this is not as extreme, perhaps to the people who personally experienced it, it was rather extreme. Is it possible "extreme" is subjective? The last woman laundry closed less than twenty years ago.


  • #1324
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I wonder if there was a stabbing/beating of a few MENA men in the next few days in Dundalk or surrounding areas, would the head in the sand brigade be on stating that there is no proof it was retaliatory, and sure isn’t there a lad beaten up every week. In keeping with their current way of thinking

    Or would they have a different attitude.


  • #1325
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    markodaly wrote: »
    More than 24 hours afterwards, they cant assess where the person is from? That is most worrying aspect of all this.
    Even if this guy was a lone nut job, our borders are quite pourous anyway where anything more organised would be easily executed.

    Also, funny that the past few months that random unprovoked attacks around the world are all carried out by men from Middle Eastern origins.

    No they haven't. What kind of stupid and easily disproven claim is that? We've had plenty of random and unprovoked attacks in Ireland alone that don't come under that criteria.


  • #1326
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,007 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    fieldsforever wrote: »
    The last woman laundry closed less than twenty years ago.

    And this has got to do exactly what with the rise in the murders and terrorist attacks done in the name of some fictional god?


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  • #1327
    baylah17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭baylah17


    markodaly wrote: »
    Also, funny that the past few months that random unprovoked attacks around the world are all carried out by men from Middle Eastern origins.

    You mean like the random mass murder in Los Vegas? or perhaps you were referring to the Texas Church massacre?
    Fact is your statement is little more than hate inciting bulls**t.
    Random acts of violence are sadly quite common and are certainly not the sole domain of any particular group, remember the stabbings carried out at the Swedish House Mafia concert in the Phoenix park?


  • #1328
    baylah17
    Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭baylah17


    mfceiling wrote: »
    And this has got to do exactly what with the rise in the murders and terrorist attacks done in the name of some fictional god?

    All Gods are fictional, which fictional God are you referring to as there are plenty of atrocities carried in the names of many Gods.


  • #1329
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    mfceiling wrote: »
    And this has got to do exactly what with the rise in the murders and terrorist attacks done in the name of some fictional god?
    The murder in Dundalk has nothing to do with any God.
    It was the work of a deranged young man who happens to be from North Africa.


  • #1330
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    The murder in Dundalk has nothing to do with any God.
    It was the work of a deranged young man who happens to be from North Africa.
    A deranged young man of unknown origin with no legal right to be here. That's the issue.


  • #1331
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    tayto lover wrote: »
    The murder in Dundalk has nothing to do with any God.
    It was the work of a deranged young man who happens to be from North Africa.

    How are you Dr? Did you happen to get a clinical diagnosis when you examined him? Also, how were you able to tell where he is from?? I believe the Gardai are having trouble figuring this out. Are you like the Dr that Dick Van Dyke plays in Diagnosis Murder???


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  • #1332
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    A deranged young man of unknown origin with no legal right to be here. That's the issue here.
    There are murders committed regularly in Ireland by people who are out on bail and hardly a word about it.


  • #1333
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    A deranged young man of unknown origin with no legal right to be here. That's the issue.

    the chances of him being 18 are fairly slim too, is there a proper picture of him?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #1334
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    There are murders committed regularly in Ireland by people who are out on bail and hardly a word about it.
    There are plenty of threads about that dude and you know it. This thread is about this young man and no amount of whataboutery will change the fact that lax border/immegration controls facilitated this murder.


  • #1335
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    There are plenty of threads about that dude and you know it. This thread is about this young man and no amount of whataboutery will change the fact that lax border controls facilitated this murder.
    Lax border control in France, England or Ireland? Or maybe all three?
    Are you for a hard border then?

    And what's this "dude" business? Are you American?


  • #1336
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    There are plenty of threads about that dude and you know it. This thread is about this young man and no amount of whataboutery will change the fact that lax border/immegration controls facilitated this murder.

    And poor policing. Lets not forget that the Gardai knew he was here illegally on Monday. Heads should roll over that.


  • #1337
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Lax border control in France, England or Ireland? Or maybe all three?
    Are you for a hard border then?
    An unfortunate consequence of a borderless Europe is a loss of control over who gets in where. It's a trade off. The difference here is that this young man was seemingly questioned by gardai on January 1st. With no proper documentation he was allowed to go free and on his own recognizance told to go and report to immegration authorities. That is a grave systematic failure the tragic consequence of which we saw on Wednesday morning.


  • #1338
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    An unfortunate consequence of a borderless Europe is a loss of control over who gets in where. It's a trade off. The difference here is that this young man was seemingly questioned by gardai on January 1st. With no proper documentation he was allowed to go free and on his own recognizance told to go and report to immegration authorities. That is a grave systematic failure the tragic consequence of which we saw on Wednesday morning.
    He seemingly sought political asylum and it was in the process of being decided from what i've read.


  • #1339
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Lax border control in France, England or Ireland? Or maybe all three?
    Are you for a hard border then?

    And what's this "dude" business? Are you American?

    Ah yes, making personal jibes, the sign of a dude who is confident in his argument


  • #1340
    MonkeyTennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    The people of Dundalk have raised over 8000eu since yesterday to repatriate the body of Yosuke Sasaki

    https://talkofthetown.ie/repatriation-fund-japanese-man-killed-dundalk-smashes-target-400-overnight/


  • #1341
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Ah yes, making personal jibes, the sign of a dude who is confident in his argument
    Jibes?/ You called me a "dude".


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  • #1342
    annaindundalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭annaindundalk


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    1990s, relatively recently, we were stone aged ourselves.

    Hmmm why don’t you just say what you’re actually really thinking?


  • #1343
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Jibes?/ You called me a "dude".
    Let's leave it there chief


  • #1344
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    tayto lover wrote: »
    He seemingly sought political asylum and it was in the process of being decided from what i've read.

    You've read incorrectly. He'd applied for and was turned down for asylum in UK. He would not have been allowed apply for asylum here.


  • #1345
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    MonkeyTennis wrote: »
    The people of Dundalk have raised over 8000eu since yesterday to repatriate the body of Yosuke Sasaki

    https://talkofthetown.ie/repatriation-fund-japanese-man-killed-dundalk-smashes-target-400-overnight/

    I would have expected the state to cover any costs


  • #1346
    s3rtvdbwfj81ch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    annaindundalk wrote: »
    Hmmm why don’t you just say what you’re actually really thinking?

    Standard Operating Procedure.

    Prefers the snide remarks that lad.


  • #1347
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭Steve F


    silverharp wrote: »
    the chances of him being 18 are fairly slim too, is there a proper picture of him?

    Video and still pictures of him being taken into court last night on the net
    Plenty of gawkers too at the end of video


  • #1348
    MonkeyTennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I would have expected the state to cover any costs

    Eitherway its a very nice gesture, while people on here were bickering ( and worse) about immigration etc there is a very real sense of sadness and shock here.


  • #1349
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,589 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    You've read incorrectly. He'd applied for and was turned down for asylum in UK. He would not have been allowed apply for asylum here.[/QUOTE]


    Where did you see that as I can't make head or tail of this -
    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-migration-and-asylum-european-union


  • #1350
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Steve F wrote: »
    Video and still pictures of him being taken into court last night on the net
    Plenty of gawkers too at the end of video

    based on the one below I'd say he is 18 going on 23

    https://i2-prod.irishmirror.ie/incoming/article11798749.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS140041507.jpg

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #1351
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭kirving


    tayto lover wrote: »
    The murder in Dundalk has nothing to do with any God.
    It was the work of a deranged young man who happens to be from North Africa.

    You don't know that, nor do I.

    "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

    What we do know is that someone with questionable nationality, and questionable legal status to be here was allowed to go free, which should not be the case.


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