Why are the English no craic.

failinis · 05-01-2018 04:04AM #1

Moved here about 3yrs ago and find it very hard to relate to any of them which I found a shock because I assumed it would be okay as its just the neighbouring country and consumed a lot of their media growing up.

Turns out only close friends have been internationals/europeans and English "friends" I have are at such a superfical level. There is one in particular that I think if she was not English I would be very close friends (or maybe if I changed etc) but we have the same level or connection you have to a quick fart.

I mannaged to get "excommunicated" from my family just in time for Christmas so spent a **** day alone over here and made me refect upon how little links to the culture or people here.

I am grand and very thakful for my interational friends here and would not change it for the world. But I just find it bizare how locked out I feel to the English groups here. Not a serious thread at all just - why cant I have the craic with these dry people? I cant be the only one having experienced this .

aziz · 05-01-2018 04:17AM

Maybe it's you and not them

Your Face · 05-01-2018 04:26AM

A lot of denial in that post.

worded · 05-01-2018 04:33AM

Some English are craictose intolerant

I can’t get some english humour like the office and morcom and wise Years ago, WTF was going on there ?

Alt Black adder etc was great

Could you find a better ground of English to hang out with?

FortuneChip · 05-01-2018 04:44AM

How frequent are these quick farts?

failinis · 05-01-2018 04:49AM

Your Face wrote: »

A lot of denial in that post.

I prefer here to NI but Id say mostly due to family issues and lower job prospects.
Id say I am here by choice but I dont know it I am happy. Happier. But not happy.

worded wrote: »

Some English are craictose intolerant

I can’t get some english humour like the office and morcom and wise Years ago, WTF was going on there ?

Alt Black adder etc was great

Could you find a better ground of English to hang out with?

Finishing a degree in a smaller town and hoping to move to a bigger city once I graduate. There is such a small circle of people here I wonder if I just dont click.
Or if the issue is me not them.

I cant be such a tool if I have close friends from other places. I think I just cant read the social rules and cues in english friendships.

05-01-2018 07:31AM

Where about are ye? I found Yorkshire a tough nut to crack but made some solid mates in the end.

Rumple Stillson · 05-01-2018 07:47AM

Not a dig but if you're from Northern Ireland, they might find it difficult to understand what you're saying?

Tom Mann Centuria · 05-01-2018 07:50AM

Depends how small the town is, where abouts in England OP is, type of degree they're doing (as I'm sure type of course affects cross section of society you might meet) and probably loads of other variables.

Bob Harris · 05-01-2018 08:32AM

English people don't have the craic. They have the bantz.
Start having a bit of banter and soon you'll have more pals and mates than you can shake a stick at.

05-01-2018 08:43AM

Rumple Stillson wrote: »

Not a dig but if you're from Northern Ireland, they might find it difficult to understand what you're saying?

You'd be surprised at how well understood us Nordies can be.

FTA69 · 05-01-2018 09:08AM

Living in London ten years, some Home Counties middle class types can have a stick up their holes alright and can be a bit reserved in comparison to us but in the whole, such stereotypes are not all-encompassing. Take people as you find them and make friends as the situation warrants. Overthinking this sort of stuff will do you no favours.

FTA69 · 05-01-2018 09:10AM

Rumple Stillson wrote: »

Not a dig but if you're from Northern Ireland, they might find it difficult to understand what you're saying?

Forget that sh*t as well. They have as much difficulty understanding people with thick West of Ireland or Cork accents or wherever. Most of them can’t even differentiate as to whether someone’s from the north or south either.

NIMAN · 05-01-2018 09:12AM

The Irish and the English are 2 completely different races of people.

Strange considering how close we are too in terms of proximity on a world scale.

Jawgap · 05-01-2018 09:30AM

I had two stints living in England - first time was in London and it was pretty rubbish. Everything revolved around work and the after-work scene was good fun, but beyond that it was a pretty soulless existance.

Second stint was working in Leeds with occasional forays to Newcastle, York and Durham - fúcking brilliant......lots to do and see. Easier to play sport and be part of a club, easier to move around, more affordable cost of living! Had a great time. "ooop north" really is a different country compared to the southeast and much closer to the Irish outlook on life.

Got sent to Germany for 8 months during that second stint and spent the time wondering what I'd done to deserve such punishment (actually, it wasn't that bad, just different).

Kintarō Hattori · 05-01-2018 09:31AM

I worked with an American firm that had offices in Dublin and London. Several times a year we'd head to London and to be honest, they were mostly grand. Sure there was your pretentious types and those who thought they were too cool for the rest of us but by and large they were grand.

Dakota Dan · 05-01-2018 09:34AM

Rumple Stillson wrote: »

Not a dig but if you're from Northern Ireland, they might find it difficult to understand what you're saying?

Did you ever try talking to anyone in the U.K. Midlands? They seem to be speaking a different language.

worded · 05-01-2018 09:37AM

Your Face wrote: »

A lot of denial in that post.

AKA River in Egypt syndrome

HalloweenJack · 05-01-2018 09:40AM

You're meeting the wrong English people. I've met plenty of sound English people over the years and a few of them I'd consider among my closest friends.

Sure, there are plenty of twats, same as in any country. As for the stereotype about them being dry ****es... again, I think you're meeting the wrong English people. They can be great craic.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw · 05-01-2018 09:41AM

Why are the English no Craic? Because they are not Irish!

worded · 05-01-2018 09:43AM

FortuneChip wrote: »

How frequent are these quick farts?

+1

Also if you can’t smell them consider an operation on your nose

sbsquarepants · 05-01-2018 09:43AM

worded wrote: »

Some English are craictose intolerant

Ha ha, I love this phrase, I'm going to "borrow" it.

I'm kind of with you OP, but it's probably your own fault - they can probably smell the disdain off you. Best to finish off that degree and get back to base ASAP. Craic awaits:D

whisky_galore · 05-01-2018 09:44AM

0tcyv2n1m538f6 wrote: »

Why are the English no Craic? Because they are not Irish!

Ironically 'craic' isn't even a word of Irish origin. It's a loanword from English...

wexandproud · 05-01-2018 10:02AM

circadian wrote: »

You'd be surprised at how well understood us Nordies can be.

don't know about that , iv'e been married to one for the last 29 years and sometimes i still can't understand her

05-01-2018 10:17AM

failinis wrote: »

There is one in particular that I think if she was not English I would be very close friends (or maybe if I changed etc) but we have the same level or connection you have to a quick fart.

The bitter irony is...you're in the home of fart humour...

Hector Bellend · 05-01-2018 10:39AM

London is my favourite city outside Ireland precisely because I've never lived there.

I'd like to keep it that way.

mad muffin · 05-01-2018 10:50AM

Coming from Perth Western Australia. I lived in London for two years. I came away shell shocked.

Hector Bellend · 05-01-2018 10:51AM

mad muffin wrote: »

Coming from Perth Western Australia. I lived in London for two years. I came away shell shocked.

What happened?

mad muffin · 05-01-2018 11:02AM

Hector Bellend wrote: »

What happened?

I worked in retail...

seamus · 05-01-2018 11:07AM

The real answer here is the fact that they're living "at home" and you're not. They have friends and family that go back decades, they don't need any new ones. If they want a pint and some craic they'll go meet their mates in the local, not go out for pints with colleagues to talk shop all night.

The other immigrants are in your boat - no support network - and so are much more eager to reach out and form new friendships.

Although also, if your family told you not to come home for Xmas of all times, I suspect you may have other issues in effectively dealing with people.

BrokenArrows · 05-01-2018 11:11AM

failinis wrote: »

Moved here about 3yrs ago and find it very hard to relate to any of them which I found a shock because I assumed it would be okay as its just the neighbouring country and consumed a lot of their media growing up.

Turns out only close friends have been internationals/europeans and English "friends" I have are at such a superfical level. There is one in particular that I think if she was not English I would be very close friends (or maybe if I changed etc) but we have the same level or connection you have to a quick fart.

I mannaged to get "excommunicated" from my family just in time for Christmas so spent a **** day alone over here and made me refect upon how little links to the culture or people here.

I am grand and very thakful for my interational friends here and would not change it for the world. But I just find it bizare how locked out I feel to the English groups here. Not a serious thread at all just - why cant I have the craic with these dry people? I cant be the only one having experienced this .

Its not "the english". Its the fact that its always hard to break into a new group of friends.
English people are at home and they already have their group of friends. Its hard work to spend time with new people.
While you and the other internationals are both in a foreign country and looking to make new friends.

Why are the English no craic.

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