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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    markodaly wrote: »
    Our saving grace is in a way that we are an island who don't appear on the radar of the bigger nations and of course our low Muslim population by EU standards.

    Saying that though, if our borders are as secure as you make out to be, how come a day after someone is murdered on our streets the authorities really have no idea who the person is baring his name?

    Poland and Hungry aren't Islands, they're central European nearly land-locked multi-porous countries with no expectancy of mass migration issues between now and 2050.

    If we still can't find out who, or where this chap is from what will happen when the aliens from the Sirus star system arrive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭taylor3


    soups05 wrote: »
    I can't speak for the rest of Dundalk but for my own view, when this news broke yesterday my 19 yr old son was in a house in that area. I tried to get him on the phone and was fairly frantic due to my own issues. Eventually i discovered he was asleep in his bed having come home in the early hours. I felt a right fool, but I will not say I spent anytime at all worrying about being attacked by a random brown skinned foreigner.

    In fact, truth be told, I feel more afraid of being attacked (again) by two knife wielding white skinned junkies of the Irish variety. To save the usual trawling through my post history that is what happened to me, in Dundalk, last jan 14th. Hence my "mental issues" like anxiety etc.

    While I currently have some friends from that area in college, I am not a fan of unlimited immigration. Call me racist if you like, frankly IDGAF. We have enough scum to worry about who were born here, we don't need to import more. If we continue to allow any tom,dick or mohammad into the country we will end up just like europe. not in another generation, but in this one. Previous attacks in europe are carried out by 2nd generation immigrants. As more come into europe, the collective sense of power grows and they become bolder. Attacks from 1st gen, just landed, give me a house and benefits type will become more common.

    By all means give them aid, help to build houses, train workers, feed and clothe them. But why do it here? they would be better off in a country closer both physically and politically to their own. I have no objection to helping them, but not at the cost of them destroying my country due to overcrowding hospitals, longer housing lists etc. We Irish went aboard in droves, but we went to work, not to claim benefits. The country is too small, too under equipped and too damn soft to accept the numbers coming here. None of whom seem to want to assimilate into our culture. Instead they come here, demand more than the natives are getting and scream racist when they don't get it.

    I don't have an answer to every question, I may not even remain on this thread, but for me its a question of looking after the Irish first, then IF we have any left we can begin to look after others. Charity begins at home.

    yours truly,
    a worried,scared, tired old man who wants to do the right thing without getting screwed for it.

    Well said Sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,113 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    If being in the country illegally isn't itself an arrestable offence, surely it should be? Otherwise immigration laws are meaningless.

    We've got so used to asking the US to turn a blind eye to our 'illegals' that we've begun to accept it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    splinter65 wrote: »
    I never understood mob mentality.
    All over the years watching what were usually accused child killers and the like on the tv arriving at or leaving court unseen in the police/Garda van with the small blacked out windows and a mob outside waiting sometimes for hours in bad weather just to spend 20 seconds bawling abuse and sometimes eggs etc at a van, jostling for position with the photographers. Pointless.

    Removed that post I did.

    He attacked 3 innocent people and killed one of them.
    People need to vent their disgust outrage and anger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 annaindundalk


    splinter65 wrote: »
    All true, but people are immune to the everyday common or garden deaths by what almost seems natural causes, “lifestyle” deaths, cancer heart disease stroke, ( self inflicted deaths some say) suicide, even car crashes barely raise an eyebrow anymore unless involving small children and even then... the gangland feuds and the many small time crooks, we barely notice any more.
    Brown colored bearded men stab strangers or run them down with hired trucks while shouting gobbledygook in exotic places like Nice and Las Ramblas, not Dundalk.
    When the outside world intrudes, it scares.
    Sorry couldn’t find the original post to ArthurDayn, just what the hell is wrong with you? How do you know what goes through everyone’s head? As if no one cares or worries about cancer or car accidents. No one stabs me and gets away with it. No terrorist or non terrorist. You’re speaking as if it were ok for us to be killed because they don’t like our religion or they think they’re going straight to heaven or whatever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    At the risk of being seen to pontificate to people what should and should not frighten them, over 300 people have been killed in Irish road collisions since the beginning of 2016. Despite the fact that you are much more likely to be randomly obliterated in a car than you are to be randomly attacked by a Muslim -- the level of fear and hysteria towards the latter scenario seems disproportionately high. Not to mention that 500 people per year die due to alcohol-related cancers while over 5,000 per year die in Ireland due to smoking. Irish society has proven itself quite capable of producing mass murderers.

    The point is -- there are things out there killing hundreds of Irish people which do not garner the same fervour among people. One immigrant commits a murder and people seem to totally lose the plot -- calling for all kinds of things like a complete overhaul of society and a whole range of other extremities such as tightening immigration rules without any regard for cost and the effect on our economy. If you suggest to them that we maybe should criminalise tobacco, despite the fact that it could eventually save thousands of lives, they would rightly laugh at you for failing to see the practical and economic issues it would cause. Yet all it will take is a couple of murders by some immigrants and they'll be crying out for an Iron Curtain around Ireland regardless of the adverse practical implications.

    Immigration is a challenge for our country and it needs to be taken seriously -- but also rationally, logically and indeed compassionately (without compassion, I'm not quite sure what about our society we are trying to save). People should reflect on the rationality underlying their fear of being killed by a Muslim terrorist, which is unlikely in the utter extreme, while thousands of our people will lie dead this time next year due to things our society has happily tolerated for years.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 annaindundalk


    soups05 wrote: »
    I can't speak for the rest of Dundalk but for my own view, when this news broke yesterday my 19 yr old son was in a house in that area. I tried to get him on the phone and was fairly frantic due to my own issues. Eventually i discovered he was asleep in his bed having come home in the early hours. I felt a right fool, but I will not say I spent anytime at all worrying about being attacked by a random brown skinned foreigner.

    In fact, truth be told, I feel more afraid of being attacked (again) by two knife wielding white skinned junkies of the Irish variety. To save the usual trawling through my post history that is what happened to me, in Dundalk, last jan 14th. Hence my "mental issues" like anxiety etc.

    While I currently have some friends from that area in college, I am not a fan of unlimited immigration. Call me racist if you like, frankly IDGAF. We have enough scum to worry about who were born here, we don't need to import more. If we continue to allow any tom,dick or mohammad into the country we will end up just like europe. not in another generation, but in this one. Previous attacks in europe are carried out by 2nd generation immigrants. As more come into europe, the collective sense of power grows and they become bolder. Attacks from 1st gen, just landed, give me a house and benefits type will become more common.

    By all means give them aid, help to build houses, train workers, feed and clothe them. But why do it here? they would be better off in a country closer both physically and politically to their own. I have no objection to helping them, but not at the cost of them destroying my country due to overcrowding hospitals, longer housing lists etc. We Irish went aboard in droves, but we went to work, not to claim benefits. The country is too small, too under equipped and too damn soft to accept the numbers coming here. None of whom seem to want to assimilate into our culture. Instead they come here, demand more than the natives are getting and scream racist when they don't get it.

    I don't have an answer to every question, I may not even remain on this thread, but for me its a question of looking after the Irish first, then IF we have any left we can begin to look after others. Charity begins at home.

    yours truly,
    a worried,scared, tired old man who wants to do the right thing without getting screwed for it.
    Well said.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I believe 4chan's network engineers were diagnosing a suspected network outage around that time due to a dramatic drop in network traffic.

    That's a joke just in case those that got upset over that posters hard on quip shed a tear again.

    Hilarious.

    Also, what the fcuk are you even talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    splinter65 wrote: »
    See some Dubs turned up. Imagine going all the way to Dundalk to abuse a stranger.

    What is wrong with you? I almost get the impression you are on his side such is your leftist derangement. He is not simply a stranger he is a murdering terrorist. Stabbed an innocent Japanese guy to death and attempted to kill two more people.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Hilarious.

    Also, what the fcuk are you even talking about?
    Up on reddit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/7nxyr2/it_seems_the_far_right_shilling_we_experience_on/

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Thread has died a bit of a death since the guy rejected being Islamic in court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭toptom


    They'll all have to watched from now on The trust is gone if it was ever there in the first place, We all knew it would happen what with europe making us take them all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Sorry couldn’t find the original post to ArthurDayn, just what the hell is wrong with you? How do you know what goes through everyone’s head? As if no one cares or worries about cancer or car accidents. No one stabs me and gets away with it. No terrorist or non terrorist. You’re speaking as if it were ok for us to be killed because they don’t like our religion or they think they’re going straight to heaven or whatever.

    Look I appreciate that you have a sincere concern but I have absolutely no idea how you managed to interpret that from my original post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,714 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    At the risk of being seen to pontificate to people what should and should not frighten them, over 300 people have been killed in Irish road collisions since the beginning of 2016. Despite the fact that you are much more likely to be randomly obliterated in a car than you are to be randomly attacked by a Muslim -- the level of fear and hysteria towards the latter scenario seems disproportionately high. Not to mention that 500 people per year die due to alcohol-related cancers while over 5,000 per year die in Ireland due to smoking. Irish society has proven itself quite capable of producing mass murderers.

    The point is -- there are things out there killing hundreds of Irish people which do not garner the same fervour among people. One immigrant commits a murder and people seem to totally lose the plot -- calling for all kinds of things like a complete overhaul of society and a whole range of other extremities such as tightening immigration rules without any regard for cost and the effect on our economy. If you suggest to them that we maybe should criminalise tobacco, despite the fact that it could eventually save thousands of lives, they would rightly laugh at you for failing to see the practical and economic issues it would cause. Yet all it will take is a couple of murders by some immigrants and they'll be crying out for an Iron Curtain around Ireland regardless of the adverse practical implications.

    Immigration is a challenge for our country and it needs to be taken seriously -- but also rationally, logically and indeed compassionately (without compassion, I'm not quite sure what about our society we are trying to save). People should reflect on the rationality underlying their fear of being killed by a Muslim terrorist, which is unlikely in the utter extreme, while thousands of our people will lie dead this time next year due to things our society has happily tolerated for years.

    You think the issue of the effects of immigration on our country should be considered and measured by the number deaths that arise from it? That's just plain daft and I'd hope intelligent ppl on all sides of the debate would agree with that.

    Not to give your silly points too much credibility by addressing them but it has to said their is a war on smoking, bad driving and alcohol consumption ongoing in this country which I'm sure your aware.

    The issue of immigration and even considering it from the point of view of 'which' people should be allowed in is a valid concern imo. I wish it wasn't but the pragmatic side of me says it is.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Thread has died a bit of a death since the guy rejected being Islamic in court.

    No it's cause he rejected being gay. We were all waiting for a gay martyr haven't you heard?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Thread has died a bit of a death since the guy rejected being Islamic in court.

    Taqiya read up on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Doltanian wrote: »
    Taqiya read up on it.

    Ahmed, my name is not Taqiya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Most, if not all, the random attacks in Dublin anyway have been by Irish people.


    Wow imagine that. I am shocked :eek:

    Don't agree with your "if not all" analogy though. I'm sure you don't too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Doltanian


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Ahmed, my name is not Taqiya.

    I'm referring to the Islamic order to lie and deceive the infidel enemy including to deny your faith in Islam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Doltanian wrote: »
    I'm referring to the Islamic order to lie and deceive the infidel enemy including to deny your faith in Islam.

    Probably, but what the poster posted that I quoted in the post is nonsense


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Doltanian wrote: »
    I'm referring to the Islamic order to lie and deceive the infidel enemy including to deny your faith in Islam.

    Did they have punctuation or was it purposely omitted so as to confuse the infidel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Doltanian wrote: »
    I'm referring to the Islamic order to lie and deceive the infidel enemy including to deny your faith in Islam.

    Your "knowledge" of it suggests that its you that needs to "read up".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    markodaly wrote: »
    I think you will find that checking passports for travel between the Schengen area and Ireland is perfectly legal. ......

    ...I was referring to smuggling etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Your "knowledge" of it suggests that its you that needs to "read up".


    Show us your knowledge and what you've read up. Maybe you can convert us.

    For someone who rejects a crib in a hospital for dying Christians and says religion has no place in society.

    Your tolerance for Islam is quite bizarre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Stheno wrote: »
    Cloverhill I'd say

    Pity. I’d say there’d be a lovely welcome party in Mountjoy for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Sorry couldn’t find the original post to ArthurDayn, just what the hell is wrong with you? How do you know what goes through everyone’s head? As if no one cares or worries about cancer or car accidents. No one stabs me and gets away with it. No terrorist or non terrorist. You’re speaking as if it were ok for us to be killed because they don’t like our religion or they think they’re going straight to heaven or whatever.

    You couldn’t find the post I was replying too, so didn’t know the context of my reply and then failed to interpret any of it properly and thus have interpreted it all wrong.
    And apparently you think that’s my fault and not your own.
    Ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,543 ✭✭✭Odhinn



    For someone who rejects a crib in a hospital for dying Christians and says religion has no place in society.

    I never 'rejected a crib'. Not sure what you mean by religion in society either.

    You seem rather angry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,845 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    At the risk of being seen to pontificate to people what should and should not frighten them, over 300 people have been killed in Irish road collisions since the beginning of 2016. Despite the fact that you are much more likely to be randomly obliterated in a car than you are to be randomly attacked by a Muslim -- the level of fear and hysteria towards the latter scenario seems disproportionately high. Not to mention that 500 people per year die due to alcohol-related cancers while over 5,000 per year die in Ireland due to smoking. Irish society has proven itself quite capable of producing mass murderers.

    The point is -- there are things out there killing hundreds of Irish people which do not garner the same fervour among people. One immigrant commits a murder and people seem to totally lose the plot -- calling for all kinds of things like a complete overhaul of society and a whole range of other extremities such as tightening immigration rules without any regard for cost and the effect on our economy. If you suggest to them that we maybe should criminalise tobacco, despite the fact that it could eventually save thousands of lives, they would rightly laugh at you for failing to see the practical and economic issues it would cause. Yet all it will take is a couple of murders by some immigrants and they'll be crying out for an Iron Curtain around Ireland regardless of the adverse practical implications.

    Immigration is a challenge for our country and it needs to be taken seriously -- but also rationally, logically and indeed compassionately (without compassion, I'm not quite sure what about our society we are trying to save). People should reflect on the rationality underlying their fear of being killed by a Muslim terrorist, which is unlikely in the utter extreme, while thousands of our people will lie dead this time next year due to things our society has happily tolerated for years.

    Also, the intent of a person carrying out an attack is going to be completely irrelevant to the victim of an attack. A person will be as traumatised by being stabbed or shot by an Irish person as they would be by a supposed Islamist terrorist. An assault is an assault and a murder is a murder. I don't see any reason why an attack or murder by an immigrant should be elevated in any way over those being carried out by Irish people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Odhinn wrote: »
    I never 'rejected a crib'. Not sure what you mean by religion in society either.

    You seem rather angry.


    You're the angry one. Nodin not me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Removed that post I did.

    He attacked 3 innocent people and killed one of them.
    People need to vent their disgust outrage and anger.

    I hate to see any of them getting the attention I think they secretly crave.
    From the Moors Murderers to the West’s and all the sniveling wretch’s of child killers I suspect they longed for the notoriety as much as anything else and I couldn’t stand to see them get it.


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