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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Ferryports and airports across the British Isles would be a good starting point. EU citizens too.

    So get rid of the free travel area... What about the border?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,236 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    Sorry had to drop the resolution and mb to post.
    WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE âš 


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    For god sake, if we're going to jump every time some immigrant attacks someone this country is going to fall further apart.

    That ship has sailed long ago I’m afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Sorry had to drop the resolution and mb to post.
    WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE ⚠

    Has a recursive virus taken over you computer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Grayson wrote: »
    So get rid of the free travel area... What about the border?

    I've no objections to checks on ports or airports. And if Britain intends introducing checks post Brexit on their territory it shouldn't be a problem at the border.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Sorry had to drop the resolution and mb to post.
    WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE ⚠

    If this appears again you'll get some explicit language for certain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    If it was a terrorist incident, why does anybody expect it to be reported as such by an uber liberal media and establishment?

    "I reject your reality, and substitute my own"


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Grayson wrote: »
    Even in Ireland, where we still have domestic terrorism you stand a far greater chance of winning the lottery than being hurt in a terrorist incident. It's the same in most countries in the world.

    In Dundalk you probably have more chance of getting attacked by a samurai sword


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Anna, I'm in the area too. It's not the first time something dreadful has happened in town nor in the Avenue Road. Why you should be stressed out by it baffles me. Nobody I met today was concerned about any further attacks.

    Most rows stabbing shootings etc are planned and between parties who are at least vaguely known to one another.
    If your of a nervous disposition then the idea that a total stranger can walk up to you in the street in broad day light and stab you can be alarming.
    I’m never afraid myself but I know plenty who find this kind of thing terrifying.
    In actual fact I’d imagine Dundalk is swarming with Gardai today and probably the safest place in the country you could be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,371 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    If it was a terrorist incident, why does anybody expect it to be reported as such by an uber liberal media and establishment?

    i would imagine it would be reported as a terror attack?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    In Dundalk you probably have more chance of getting attacked by a samurai sword

    It's taken over from the caman? A sad statement on the decline of our native ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Grayson wrote: »
    So get rid of the free travel area... What about the border?

    Yes, get rid of the ridiculous free travel area and if proper port/airport passport control was reintroduced in the UK too there would be no need for checks on the north/south border. Sadly, this won't happen but it would be the ideal solution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,371 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    I've no objections to checks on ports or airports. And if Britain intends introducing checks post Brexit on their territory it shouldn't be a problem at the border.

    checks have only been discussed in relation to the movement of goods and services. seriously how can you stop someone enter ROI from the north? block off the entire north?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Yes, get rid of the ridiculous free travel area and if proper port/airport passport control was reintroduced in the UK too there would be no need for checks on the north/south border. Sadly, this won't happen but it would be the ideal solution.

    Do you realize how much we rely financially on the fact that there are no restrictions on travel between Ireland and UK?
    We literally would go broke overnight if the common travel area was lost.
    What do you think all the panic about Brexit was about?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Grayson wrote: »
    ...you stand a far greater chance of winning the lottery than being hurt in a terrorist incident. It's the same in most countries in the world...

    Very poor argument. It's not the action itself, it's 'the terror of the possibility of such an act occurring to themselves, or someone they care about'.

    Ask everyone you know do they think they'll even win the lottery, chances are something like 25% will say sure, most likely. Regardless of the (very substantial) odds.

    Which reminds me, time to get tomorrows Euroballs selection ready! (Like the millions of others whom play the game).
    Obviously if they didn't think they'd win big, logic dictates that sure they wouldn't even bother with all the excitement of the game!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Yes, get rid of the ridiculous free travel area and if proper port/airport passport control was reintroduced in the UK too there would be no need for checks on the north/south border. Sadly, this won't happen but it would be the ideal solution.

    Leave the EU?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The accused looks a bit unhinged to me. But then again, that may be a tactic. I dunno.

    I'd be inclined to think that one murder is one far too many no matter the nationality. But this person appears to have no defined nationality, and I also doubt he is only 18 aswell.

    With due respect to the victims, Mohamed was badly advised to say he was 18. At 17 he would have anonymity as a "child" and presumably would be wrapped in Irish cotton wool.

    Have any of the taxpayer funded refugee councils/charities made a statement on this yet or what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭sibersha


    From The Irish Times


    He was in an agitated state during the hearing and shouted repeatedly in Arabic and English, “I am no gay”, “I am no Muslim” and “I am no Pakistani” in the courtroom.


    Probably what he said in the video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Gone from sleeping in a shed on Tuesday night to a bed in Cloverhill tonight. It has worked out pretty well for the attacker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,504 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Mohammed Morei, whose nationality has not yet been confirmed, was brought to Dundalk District Court in handcuffs shortly before 7pm

    More than 24 hours afterwards, they cant assess where the person is from? That is most worrying aspect of all this.
    Even if this guy was a lone nut job, our borders are quite pourous anyway where anything more organised would be easily executed.

    Also, funny that the past few months that random unprovoked attacks around the world are all carried out by men from Middle Eastern origins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    "I am no gay"

    Mohamed doth protest too much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Most rows stabbing shootings etc are planned and between parties who are at least vaguely known to one another.
    If your of a nervous disposition then the idea that a total stranger can walk up to you in the street in broad day light and stab you can be alarming.
    I’m never afraid myself but I know plenty who find this kind of thing terrifying.
    In actual fact I’d imagine Dundalk is swarming with Gardai today and probably the safest place in the country you could be.

    At the risk of being seen to pontificate to people what should and should not frighten them, over 300 people have been killed in Irish road collisions since the beginning of 2016. Despite the fact that you are much more likely to be randomly obliterated in a car than you are to be randomly attacked by a Muslim -- the level of fear and hysteria towards the latter scenario seems disproportionately high. Not to mention that 500 people per year die due to alcohol-related cancers while over 5,000 per year die in Ireland due to smoking. Irish society has proven itself quite capable of producing mass murderers.

    The point is -- there are things out there killing hundreds of Irish people which do not garner the same fervour among people. One immigrant commits a murder and people seem to totally lose the plot -- calling for all kinds of things like a complete overhaul of society and a whole range of other extremities such as tightening immigration rules without any regard for cost and the effect on our economy. If you suggest to them that we maybe should criminalise tobacco, despite the fact that it could eventually save thousands of lives, they would rightly laugh at you for failing to see the practical and economic issues it would cause. Yet all it will take is a couple of murders by some immigrants and they'll be crying out for an Iron Curtain around Ireland regardless of the adverse practical implications.

    Immigration is a challenge for our country and it needs to be taken seriously -- but also rationally, logically and indeed compassionately (without compassion, I'm not quite sure what about our society we are trying to save). People should reflect on the rationality underlying their fear of being killed by a Muslim terrorist, which is unlikely in the utter extreme, while thousands of our people will lie dead this time next year due to things our society has happily tolerated for years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Leave the EU?

    If needs be. All I'm saying is that checking passports of everybody in an out of the country should be routine at borders between the British Isles and Europe. This would cut down on illegal immigration, drug smuggling, Irish scumbag criminals travelling where they like to enjoy their ill-gotten gains etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    markodaly wrote: »
    Also, funny that the past few months that random unprovoked attacks around the world are all carried out by men from Middle Eastern origins.

    Huh??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,371 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    If needs be. All I'm saying is that checking passports of everybody in an out of the country should be routine at borders between the British Isles and Europe. This would cut down on illegal immigration, drug smuggling, Irish scumbag criminals travelling where they like to enjoy their ill-gotten gains etc.

    where should we check passports on the border?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,898 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Very poor argument. It's not the action itself, it's 'the terror of the possibility of such an act occurring to themselves, or someone they care about'.

    Ask everyone you know do they think they'll even win the lottery, chances are something like 25% will say sure, most likely. Regardless of the (very substantial) odds.

    Which reminds me, time to get tomorrows Euroballs selection ready! (Like the millions of others whom play the game).
    Obviously if they didn't think they'd win big, logic dictates that sure they wouldn't even bother with all the excitement of the game!.

    I mentioned in a previous post how people are irrational about this kind of thing. The chances are so incredibly tiny yet people are scared. It helps to put the numbers into perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    where should we check passports on the border?

    I already said that it would have to be done on a British Isles basis and that way there would be no passport control north/south. It will happen eventually - there will be one terrorist outrage that will be the straw that breaks the camels back and the real borders will go up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I don't get why people think he's not 18? Surely if he was lying about his age at all he'd pretend to be under 18 in order to seek less harsh sentencing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 annaindundalk


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I don't get why people think he's not 18? Surely if he was lying about his age at all he'd pretend to be under 18 in order to seek less harsh sentencing?

    Maybe in his country children have less rights and things are different. I don’t know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    markodaly wrote: »
    More than 24 hours afterwards, they cant assess where the person is from? That is most worrying aspect of all this.
    Even if this guy was a lone nut job, our borders are quite pourous anyway where anything more organised would be easily executed.

    Also, funny that the past few months that random unprovoked attacks around the world are all carried out by men from Middle Eastern origins.

    I'm guessing he is Libyan, either way the fact that his nationality cannot be ascertained is not that important.

    His turning up in Europe is part of the great migration mania.

    In terms of NI/ROI border post-Brexit, how can you not have a border:confused:
    People trafficking will be something you can only dream of/ have nightmares about.
    The stuff that's going on at the moment is frightening.


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