Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

Del.Monte · 03-01-2018 08:12PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Has anyone seen the Dublin Agreement anywhere? Remember that?

Why is this guy wandering around Dundalk if he was deemed unfit to remain in the UK?

Because the Irish authorities don't have the faintest idea who is in this country.

Grayson · 03-01-2018 08:13PM

deco nate wrote: »

You forgot...
3)you are racist against brown people

Seriously dude. I said that about one guy. The guy who said he's hit anyone who looked middle eastern. And that's pretty fecking racist.

Mutant z · 03-01-2018 08:14PM

dav3 wrote: »

It’s a sad day when this is what remains of the far-right in Ireland. Fearmongering, lies and sh*tposts.

The Syrian angle was taken away early and now the terrorism angle is looking less likely.

As sad as this particular event is, it looks like just another 'random and unprovoked' attack on our streets.

R.I.P. to the victim.

Your blame is misguided it should be directed at those scumbags who kill in the name of their sky fairy the ones who are trying their best to reduce western civilisation into the same sort of wasteland from which they fled to get into Europe.

gw80 · 03-01-2018 08:15PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if they say why this came to light. Is he one of many north Africans who have entered as supposed Syrian refugees???
Did he maybe tell them on 01.01.2018 that he was Syrian and today then contradict himself???

The Germans found out last year about how many idenities these lads adapt once they get into the EU to make life easier for themselves. The simple truth is that no one in the EU really knows who these people are and where they are....a result of allowing mass entry without correct registration, finger printing, DNA samples and age checks.

At the earlier stage of this incident, before there was any mention that he was Egyptian, they said on the news they were bringing in interpreters to speak with him, i wonder is that when they realised he doesn't speak Syrian and later found out he was Egyptian?

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 08:16PM

dav3 wrote: »

It looks like he just lost the head for whatever reason. The Gardaí seem to think so anyway.

If he was deported after being refused leave to remain in another EU country as per the Dublin Agreement we wouldnt be discussing what looks like yet another MENA youth attempting to go on a killing rampage in Europe.

This looks like another disaster for EU migration policy to me.

03-01-2018 08:17PM

dav3 wrote:

Itâ€™s a sad day when this is what remains of the far-right in Ireland. Fearmongering, lies and sh*tposts.

This is not the far right. This is people venting their dismay about what looks like, for all intents and purposes, a terror attack.

You quoted one of my posts earlier where I mentioned I hated people who defend or attack for no reason and said you were "as right wing as they come"....

Bull****

Irishmale0399 · 03-01-2018 08:17PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Has anyone seen the Dublin Agreement anywhere? Remember that?

Why is this guy wandering around Dundalk if he was deemed unfit to remain in the UK?

Maybe arrived in Belfast....didnt like it and was sure he would have an easy ride in the Republic.
Sure Dundalk people do a lot for the homeless and put it on facebook........
Maybe upset that the state told him that he couldnt stay and he felt like he had nothing to lose.......
Maybe he couldnt afford the bus/train ticket to Dublin...
Maybe because Dundalk is in the middle of Dublin-Belfast...

Truth of the matter is we will never really know why he was in Dundalk....however the fact is he was there and committed the crime for whatever reason.

RobbingBandit · 03-01-2018 08:19PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

Has anyone seen the Dublin Agreement anywhere? Remember that?

Why is this guy wandering around Dundalk if he was deemed unfit to remain in the UK?

Train and bus station in Newry both 20 minutes or less travel time to dundalk, Belfast 1 hour no checks at either point.

Mutant z · 03-01-2018 08:21PM

So he wasnt allowed to remain in the UK and yet somehow he was suitable enough to end up here if he was deported as soon as he should have been this tragedy would have been avoided a 24 year old man would not now be dead.

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 08:22PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Maybe arrived in Belfast....didnt like it and was sure he would have an easy ride in the Republic.

So you reckon he applied for leave to stay in Northern Ireland instead of GB? I dont think there are any flights from Egypt to Belfast? How would he have got there?

Strazdas · 03-01-2018 08:23PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

Because the Irish authorities don't have the faintest idea who is in this country.

Not true. Ireland has strict immigration laws and is not a member of the Schengen Area.

splinter65 · 03-01-2018 08:24PM

Dank Janniels wrote: »

If this is an act of terrorism then what do you call an Irishman that plants a bomb on a bus in Longford or who has a rocket launcher intent to kill prince Charles?

A terrorist of course. What else would he be?

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 08:26PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not true. Ireland has strict immigration laws and is not a member of the Schengen Area.

I think enforcement of the law is the issue here, not how strict they are on paper...

Beechwoodspark · 03-01-2018 08:28PM

Anecdotal I know but just from chatting to people in a few locations today in 5 midlands towns/villages (I travel around the island of Ireland as part of my job) there’s a huge amount of pure anger, disgust and yes, fear, about this attack today.

Strazdas · 03-01-2018 08:28PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

I think enforcement of the law is the issue here, not how strict they are on paper...

From what I can gather, enforcement of the laws are pretty strict in Ireland. I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that anyone can stroll through immigration control at Dublin Airport or anywhere else unchallenged.

CZ 453 · 03-01-2018 08:29PM

testaccount123 wrote: »

I think enforcement of the law is the issue here, not how strict they are on paper...

Yeah.It's a global issue. Very few are actually deported following the refusal of a right to stay.

03-01-2018 08:30PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not true. Ireland has strict immigration laws and is not a member of the Schengen Area.

So? Id say they still dont really know who is here.

Its easy to go forwards and back from England like this fella has. Travel to Belfast on ferry. Take bus to Dundalk.

the_barfly1 · 03-01-2018 08:31PM

With regards to the terror angle here, it's unlikely that ISIS are going to claim this one, as the perp is in custody and not dead.
NY Times journalist specializing in all things ISIS explains better than I could:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/world/americas/isis-manhattan-truck-attack.html

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 08:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I can gather, enforcement of the laws are pretty strict in Ireland. I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that anyone can stroll through immigration control at Dublin Airport or anywhere else unchallenged.

The idea comes from this fella appearing to have done that very thing...

Ulysses Gaze · 03-01-2018 08:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I can gather, enforcement of the laws are pretty strict in Ireland. I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that anyone can stroll through immigration control at Dublin Airport or anywhere else unchallenged.

You've probably read those stories about people who get through security at Airports using their girlfriends passports or get into high security events without anyone checking them.

Now a border is even more porous than that.

Maybe he got the boat to Belfast and was never ID'd. Just bought a ticket and strolled on. And just joined a crowd on the way out and flashed his valid ticket.

03-01-2018 08:32PM

Frauke Petry 2 wrote: »

we should also keep an eye on merkel's trickery,
she is fast-forwarding passports to refugees so they can enrich other european countries,
keep an eye on her she is not stupid

Welcome to Boards Frauke Petry

splinter65 · 03-01-2018 08:33PM

dav3 wrote: »

It’s a sad day when this is what remains of the far-right in Ireland. Fearmongering, lies and sh*tposts.

The Syrian angle was taken away early and now the terrorism angle is looking less likely.

As sad as this particular event is, it looks like just another 'random and unprovoked' attack on our streets.

R.I.P. to the victim.

You’re trying to convince yourself that fear of terrorism = far right when it doesn’t.
Fear of terrorism in 2018 is perfectly normal and understandable and all the terrorist attacks launched on innocent Europeans and Americans and Afghans and Pakistanis and Iraqis over the last few years have been carried out by terririsrs in the name of the Muslim faith.
You’re trying to pretend that it’s ridiculous and racist and so right wing to be afraid of an ISIS attack in 2018 when news breaks that a man of middle eastern origin has violently and randomly attacked 3 people killing one.
Can you not see how ridiculous you seem?

weldoninhio · 03-01-2018 08:33PM

dav3 wrote: »

You think instead of carrying out a terrorist attack in the UK, he decided to travel all the way to Dundalk on a wet and windy Wednesday to make his point?

It looks like he just lost the head for whatever reason. The Gardaí seem to think so anyway.

Were you on the Dav3phone to them?? Or maybe you are a mind-reader.

Last statement from them stated that terrorism was one line of enquiry. Haven’t seen or heard anything after that. How do you know what they currently think??

BowSideChamp · 03-01-2018 08:35PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Train and bus station in Newry both 20 minutes or less travel time to dundalk, Belfast 1 hour no checks at either point.

In fairness to the Gardai they do random immigration checks of the buses coming down into the South. They stop the bus on the M1 and ask everyone for ID. They pull off anyone for further investigation to Dundalk Garda St.

Strazdas · 03-01-2018 08:35PM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

So? Id say they still dont really know who is here.

Its easy to go forwards and back from England like this fella has. Travel to Belfast on ferry. Take bus to Dundalk.

For sure, but an unregistered person cannot work legally or apply for any sort of benefit or help from the state, such as the health service, housing or anything else. Their status would be akin to a homeless person with no income.

weldoninhio · 03-01-2018 08:38PM

Strazdas wrote: »

From what I can gather, enforcement of the laws are pretty strict in Ireland. I'm not sure where the idea is coming from that anyone can stroll through immigration control at Dublin Airport or anywhere else unchallenged.

I’d imagine they are getting the idea from this Egyptian guy being told you aren’t getting refugee statement in U.K., he was then able to get into ROI completely unhindered, spoke with Gardai 2 days ago, and was told to make his way to Dublin to apply for asylum. All completely unchallenged.

deco nate · 03-01-2018 08:38PM

Grayson wrote: »

Seriously dude. I said that about one guy. The guy who said he's hit anyone who looked middle eastern. And that's pretty fecking racist.

Tbh, I added that not because of you. But a lot of other posters said the same, but not to that post

homerjay2005 · 03-01-2018 08:39PM

dav3 wrote: »

It’s a sad day when this is what remains of the far-right in Ireland. Fearmongering, lies and sh*tposts.

The Syrian angle was taken away early and now the terrorism angle is looking less likely.

As sad as this particular event is, it looks like just another 'random and unprovoked' attack on our streets.

R.I.P. to the victim.

doesnt matter where he is from, who he is or what his motives are.

this was done by a man who should not be in the country. he was rejected entry to United Kingdom, became known to Gardai and/or immigration officals 2 days ago and low and behold, he ended up killing a man and injuring more this morning.

this just shows our country for the soft touch bullsh*it that its become in the modern politically correct and liberal world.

testaccount123 · 03-01-2018 08:40PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’d imagine they are getting the idea from this Egyptian guy being told you aren’t getting refugee statement in U.K., he was then able to get into ROI completely unhindered, spoke with Gardai 2 days ago, and was told to make his way to Dublin to apply for asylum. All completely unchallenged.

If thats the case surely this is a huge story? I wonder will the media even report it? How many more are there like this guy?

Billy86 · 03-01-2018 08:40PM

Doltanian wrote: »

Yes because the American's invaded Iraq 15 years ago it was somehow our fault too and this was payback today.

And funny enough, just about every person I know with an inclination towards Brexit, Trump or any of this 'new right' bullsh*t was also in favour of the US and other forces going to war with Iraq out of fear mongering. Which is gas these days, watching some try to claim otherwise.

I don't blame the wolf I blame the man who opened the gate and let him into the pen.

I blame the person who set the woods on fire and sent the 'wolves' as you want to call them flying out towards us.

Don't worry though, you and the people claiming to never be in favour of Iraq despite being very much so at the time can plod along singing "we didn't start the fire" all you like.

Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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