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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Grayson wrote: »
    Nobody has. And no-one has said it definitely isn't terrorism.
    And what happened is horrible. Someone died in a horrific manner.

    All people have been saying is
    1) Don't jump to conclusions. Possibly wait for more information
    2) Don't blame a whole group of people for the actions of an individual.
    You forgot...
    3)you are racist against brown people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0103/930792-dundalk-death/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42554127

    the male suspect is in custody and is a 18 year old from Eqypt , Gardai investigating Terrorism as a possible line of enquiry.

    Arrested on suspicion of murder, may have had 2 knives in his possession.

    Gardai had dealings with the same individual only 2 days ago in Dundalk apparently on his Immigration status in ROI.

    It was only a matter of time before this kind of incident happened in Ireland. We need to start doing Immigration checks on the border with Northern Ireland.

    I would imagine this scumbag will be held in isolation in custody as I'm sure inmates would be keen to have a friendly chat with him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Grayson wrote: »
    You do realise it's only the last 70 years or so that we haven't had a major war in Europe. And even during that time people here were blowing the shyte out of each other.

    He wont reply!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    UK kicked him out and the authorities here seemed to be in the process of assessing his case here.

    I hope he serves a very long prison sentence. What a waste of space.

    EDIT: UK press are going to have a field day with this, as a 'perfect example' of having a soft border.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Amazing how easy it is to spread fear and division if this thread is anything to go by. A guy got stabbed on the street and is now dead. As pointed out earlier it can happen from time to time mainly in large urban areas and it happened twenty years ago in these areas too. 9am is unusual alright, but with so many drugs about who knows, anything can happen out there. the Gardai are looking into how he got in from Egypt. People should let them investigate and draw conclusions when we are more informed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    No, but in terms of things that actually happen, not the way things should be or what's right or fair, the terrorism occurring in Europe now is occurring as a consequence (an unfair, atrocious, but very easily foreseeable one) of the actions of some Western countries in the middle East.

    Except it isn't though. Isis, who have claimed responsibility for most (all?) of these attacks have said so themselves.
    What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, the fact is even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us and usurping our lands, we would continue you to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.

    not saying this incident has anything to do with terrorirsm or isis, just addressing this point.

    RIP to the victim. The last thing you would ever expect to happen while going about your daily business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    No, but in terms of things that actually happen, not the way things should be or what's right or fair, the terrorism occurring in Europe now is occurring as a consequence (an unfair, atrocious, but very easily foreseeable one) of the actions of some Western countries in the middle East.

    Even if what you say is true(let me be clear I don't for a second believe it is) What's the solution? Do we just accept semi-regular knife attacks/ lorries driving on footpaths as a consequence of having thousands of unvetted supposedly aggrieved people on our isle?
    Just take our medicine because we somehow all had a part to play in the civil wars of foreign nations or drone strikes in the middle east?
    Do you want to live in the type of society that ignores the plight of 1000 people because of the risk that one poses?

    There are ways to help without lumping 1000 people from a completely different culture into your own back yard without the faintest idea on how to integrate them.
    Nah. The ones wetting themselves with excitement about Muslim terrorism could not care less about the victim.

    Id love to dispel this ****e being trotted out aswell that somehow the posters concerned about terrorism raising its ugly head here as somehow being happy that our previously held opinions are potentially being vindicated by the death of a poor unfortunate just going about his day.

    For myself and I presume the more reasoned posters on this side of the fence its a mixture of condolence for the japanese lad who was killed, a worry that we've multicultured our way into semi regular extremist attacks on ordinary citizens and a dash of "you bloody apologists and deniers were f***ing warned".


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jesus Christ ya serious?

    Absolutely.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105353373&postcount=30

    Never replied when called out on it either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    RIP to the victim. The poor man just going to work and this has to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,227 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    I don't think there is a source. Just The SUN saying cops have confirmed it is a line of inquiry.
    RTE don't mention terrorism.

    They will no doubt have liam cunningham on at some stage to lecture us on how we are not doing enough for immigrnats from Middle East and North Africa.
    Ah you know yourself. Any hint of anything related to Johnny foreigner and some people around here are wetting themselves with excitement that it might be terrorist related.

    Terrorist or not an illegal foreigner to our shores killed a legal foreigner to our shore and then tried to kill some natives.

    This guy should not be in our country, terrorist or not.

    It looks like the Garda might have interacted with him over the last few days and knew he was illegal, they should have the ability, powers and cop on to take him into custody as an illegal.

    We have had numerous instances of terrorist recruitment, murders, rapes and sexual assaults carried out by so called asylum seekers and yet nothing is fooking done about a clamp down on illegal immigrants.

    And for your information a foreigner is lying dead on a slab tonight, many miles from his family and loved ones.

    Of course for some very perverse reason you only care about the foreigner that would most likely fook you off the nearest tall building for your sexual preferences.

    I find this is one of the weirdest social phenomena of the last couple of decades.
    The championing of the followers of one of the most homophobic and misogynistic ideologies by homosexuals and feminists.
    It requires a level of cognitive dissonance unheard of heretofore.

    And that is the real lunacy here and would only be akin to members of the black community fighting for the rights of the KKK or Jews fighting for the rights of Nazis.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Absolutely.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105353373&postcount=30

    Never replied when called out on it either.

    So are we getting our traveller hate on in the muslim kicking thread now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    it was only a matter of time before this happened.

    Before what happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Amazing how easy it is to spread fear and division if this thread is anything to go by. A guy got stabbed on the street and is now dead. As pointed out earlier it can happen from time to time mainly in large urban areas and it happened twenty years ago in these areas too. 9am is unusual alright, but with so many drugs about who knows, anything can happen out there. the Gardai are looking into how he got in from Egypt. People should let them investigate and draw conclusions when we are more informed.

    Two knives and an iron rod, attacking 3 groups/individuals. Probably knew his time was up here, after being turfed out of the UK. Thankfully, we'll get more straight answers from the UK press over this, they seemed to have assessed this person as a risk, hence him being refused entry/right to stay in England.

    Trending on BBC News. This will be politicised by them.. and over here, for entirely different reasons, by left/right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Virgil° wrote: »
    For myself and I presume the more reasoned posters on this side of the fence its a mixture of condolence for the japanese lad who was killed, a worry that we've multicultured our way into semi regular extremist attacks on ordinary citizens and a dash of "you bloody apologists and deniers were f***ing warned".

    Yer man was two days off the boat as far as I understand it. What the jaysus has "multicultured" anything to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Amalgam wrote: »
    Two knives and an iron rod, attacking 3 groups/individuals. Probably knew his time was up here, after being turfed out of the UK. Thankfully, we'll get more straight answers from the UK press over this, they seemed to have assessed this person as a risk, hence him being refused entry/right to stay in England.

    Trending on BBC News.

    I'd like to know how he got to Ireland. Was it via the UK? Or Egypt?


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So are we getting our traveller hate on in the muslim kicking thread now?

    Number one, I don't hate travellers, sorry to disappoint you Odhinn. Where does anything in that post suggest that? Reach harder boy.

    Secondly, someone was trying to hold that poster to a higher standard because of their Moderator status on another forum. I was telling them they didn't need to because the poster isn't a mod here and just spouts lies and doesn't respond when called up on them.

    Have a super tolerant day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Really Joey? it sure looks like the usual apologists were on here defending the attacker on here and throwing that old brown racist bigots insults around here, still amazes me that you support a religion where you are not allowed to be.gay and in some countries put to death. But hey that’s ok with you it seems.


    Can you please quote a poster who defended the killer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,898 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    trellheim wrote: »
    RIP to the victim. The poor man just going to work and this has to happen.

    His family will have gotten a horrendous phone call at an ungodly hour, horrific tragedy.

    Sadly there is a link between people from the middle east and rampages of this nature as there is a huge precedent over the last few years. Without getting into "Muslim bashing" it isn't something that other groups of people are particularly well known for, outside of the gun nuts in America.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭falinn merking


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    At least one, yes.

    There was a guy attacked in a random one punch attack the other day while getting into a taxi. Logic on this thread dictates because there was no reason for it it was a terrorist attack.

    I hate racists.
    I hate discrimination.

    I also call a spade a spade.

    Muslim check
    Non Muslim victims
    Muslims using knives cars and trucks as weapons all over Europe for the last few years check.

    Very very likely a Islamic terror attack.

    Saying it might be anything else is clutching at straws and is extremely stupid.

    One dead two injured not going to tiptoe around for fear of offending a backward and hateful cult.

    That is my first and last post in this thread people on either side of the argument are trying to score points.

    Have been through several pages and I have not seen a SINGLE post asking about the poor victims.

    Just to say I don't have a problem with Muslims only Muslim terrorists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Whats your point then? All I see is you rattling on with whataboutism and absurd comparisons to drunken gob****es arguing over a taxi.

    I never made any comparison to anyone drunk on a taxi, someone else brought up drink.

    My point might a bit too obvious for you. Ask a grown up read back through the thread and explain as to who and what I was posting about.
    Omackeral wrote: »
    You're hard work. Assaults and punches are unfortunately part of today's society. Scuffles happen. I'm sure the majority of one punch assaulters aren't trying to kill people (they're still scum btw). A fella taking a fcuking knife onto the streets of a major town and butchering three people on a rush hour morning, killing one, is a bit different. If you don't see that, we've nothing else to discuss.

    And I can't make it any simpler. Yes, it's part and parcel of life, it's not terrorism. I told you more than once that's the point I was posting about. And that's it, nothing more, nothing less.

    You're making the work hard for yourself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Absolutely.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105353373&postcount=30

    Never replied when called out on it either.
    Did you see who thanked the post?! Lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Those figures from the same people and polls that told us that Trump had no chance and that Brexit wouldn't happen?

    If this turns out to be a religiously motivated attack, it's incredibly serious situation. Even if it doesn't turn out to be religiously motivated, it does show others how easy it is to circumnavigate our border and immigration controls.

    As always, my sympathy goes out to anyone affected by this needless attack. People from both sides are at least talking and debating here. There are valid points and good people on left and the right and conversation is good.

    Unfortunately, alot of the usual suspects are also out on both sides, showing pleasure in defending and attacking Islam without any nuance or reason. They disgust me in equal measure.

    I hear you. I'm as right wing as they come. However, over the past few years I've been disgusted with the behaviour of some on the right and their constant fear-mongering and general hatred of anyone different to them.
    Is it any wonder that people are turning away from the right in their droves once their lies and hysteria has been exposed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    I would be absolutely hilarious if this chap had connections to a certain IH
    That would defiantly shut some lefties up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,365 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    dav3 wrote: »
    Is it any wonder that people are turning away from the right in their droves once their lies and hysteria has been exposed.

    People are turning away from the right?

    Thats news to me.

    I'd be interested to know what lies and hysteria you think the right have been saying.

    In fact I'd suggest the concerns people on the right were voicing 2 or 3 years ago have all come true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Odhinn wrote: »
    So are we getting our traveller hate on in the muslim kicking thread now?

    Why do you think the Egyptian is a Muslim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,530 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Amalgam wrote: »
    UK kicked him out and the authorities here seemed to be in the process of assessing his case here.

    I hope he serves a very long prison sentence. What a waste of space.

    EDIT: UK press are going to have a field day with this, as a 'perfect example' of having a soft border.

    Isn't the point of the Dublin agreement that someone can't go country to country looking for asylum.

    He shouldn't have been assessed just deported, no appeal no nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Binzer


    It appears that they are hunting another suspect connected to today’s murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    Virgil° wrote: »
    Even if what you say is true(let me be clear I don't for a second believe it is) What's the solution? Do we just accept semi-regular knife attacks/ lorries driving on footpaths as a consequence of having thousands of unvetted supposedly aggrieved people on our isle?
    Just take our medicine because we somehow all had a part to play in the civil wars of foreign nations or drone strikes in the middle east?

    I don't know is the honest answer, policing, evidence-based approaches as to how integrating people can be effectively done, stricter immigration controls, education, new legislation, would all be part of it I imagine. I was just arguing the point that this is all somehow the fault of the treehugging heart bleeders who were the people who argued against neo-colonialist policies in the ME.

    I am not in favour of unrestricted immigration, but mass deportations or total closed borders are not right either.

    For the poster who quoted IS there, yes I realise IS are religious fundamentalist lunatics who want a calpihate. But they would never have been able to get a foothold if the region hadn't been so destabilised.

    And for anyone who's wondering about the amount of new accounts posting and stuff, quelle suprise!

    DSoGFKEX0AULdJ-.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Binzer wrote: »
    It appears that they are hunting another suspect connected to today’s murder.

    Where are you getting this info from may I ask???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    That would defiantly shut some lefties up

    Might be tricky to get your head around, but most people probably sit across the left/right fence when it comes to politics in Ireland.


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