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PSNI Recruitment 1710 Campaign

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    NiK9 wrote: »
    Well that's the IST officially closed. Just think we should have actually been getting our results today :( oh Well only 3 weeks until 8th. Hopefully they actually give results on the 8th and not at 16.59 on 12th as join psni just says the week beginning the 8th lol.
    There's no point getting too impatient about when the results will be released, it's going to be a long process. I'm just focusing on preparing for a possible assessment centre than worrying about how far away the results are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    Yea that's what I'm doing lol. I was prepping for the a.c. even before the IST Lol. It's the but I'm worried most about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭RedPool2891


    For me, the AC was the toughest but it's doable.  Just relax, talk and think and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Cbm27


    Hope in a few weeks we all get good news. In the mean time, relax and enjoy the holidays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭Goonerdee


    Not liking the sound of the PSNI having to make more cuts. Hope it doesnt affect this campaign.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    Not liking the sound of the PSNI having to make more cuts. Hope it doesnt affect this campaign.


    I hope not. Yet another thing to mess up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Goonerdee wrote: »
    Not liking the sound of the PSNI having to make more cuts. Hope it doesnt affect this campaign.
    Where did you see this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭BlueCop8790


    NornIron74 wrote: »
    Goonerdee wrote: »
    Not liking the sound of the PSNI having to make more cuts. Hope it doesnt affect this campaign.
    Where did you see this?
    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/psni-cant-be-made-scapegoat-with-further-budget-cuts-warns-federation-36425926.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭BlueCop8790


    Hope everyone has a great Christmas, wish yous all the best in the new year and especially with this campaign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Hope everyone has a great Christmas, wish yous all the best in the new year and especially with this campaign.


    Same to yourself. Hopefully this time next year some of us are in GV.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Merry Christmas, treat yourself and have a few drinks. Hope the fat man was good to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    I hope everyone on here has a happy new year, hopefully 2018 will be the year a lot of us are starting our new careers in Garnerville.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Cbm27


    Hoping we all get good news around this time next week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭KN1231999


    It's getting close now, less than a week till we find out who got their ticket to Belfast


  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭KN1231999


    It's getting close now, less than a week till we find out who got their ticket to Belfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    It could be next Fri before we find out. As it said week commencing the 8th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    NiK9 wrote: »
    It could be next Fri before we find out. As it said week commencing the 8th.
    They delayed the results in 1509 as well if I remember correctly? I was gutted lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    They delayed the results in 1509 as well if I remember correctly? I was gutted lol.

    They have already delayed the results by 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    NornIron74 wrote: »
    Maxi515 wrote: »
    They delayed the results in 1509 as well if I remember correctly? I was gutted lol.

    They have already delayed the results by 3 weeks.
    I wouldn't be surprised if it was further delayed or left until the 11th hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Aye could be natch for all we know


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    That was meant to be March


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭The Rookie


    Happy New Year to everyone. I tried to forget about the IST as much as possible over the Christmas period now I am starting to think about it again! Really hope we all hear at the start of the week and it doesn't get dragged out any longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Happy New Year to everyone. I tried to forget about the IST as much as possible over the Christmas period now I am starting to think about it again! Really hope we all hear at the start of the week and it doesn't get dragged out any longer.
    I just forgot about the IST and focused on preparing for the AC. Let's just hope it wasn't in vain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Check emails, try not to s**to yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Check emails, try not to s**to yourself.

    I haven’t got an email...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Check emails, try not to s**to yourself.


    Literally thought oh results are early. Nope they’re not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Cbm27


    Got email, its not the results. It asks you to complete a survey for continuous improvement on the IST.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Sorry but that was a super dicky thing to do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Could have just stuck the survey at the end of the results email...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    I thought it was results too, was nearly scared to open it lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    I haven’t even got it and was really starting to worry but if it is only a survey then that’s okay, their loss because I probably would have done it for them XD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Lockie101 wrote: »
    I haven’t even got it and was really starting to worry but if it is only a survey then that’s okay, their loss because I probably would have done it for them XD
    Yeah it's only a survey about how you thought the application form and IST was handled.


  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Lockie101


    Wonder can we get extra brownie points for doing this? XD


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 mrlovalova22


    Just finished the survery and it takes 2 seconds to complete, thankfully still mentions at the end of the survery we will be getting the results from the 8th, so at least that hasn't changed....... yet!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    I’m actually really concerned that following the survey, if X amount of people say the test was poor/unfair they may make us all re-test again.

    This campaign is a nightmare.

    Please no more delays Deloitte.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭NornIron74


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    I’m actually really concerned that following the survey, if X amount of people say the test was poor/unfair they may make us all re-test again.

    This campaign is a nightmare.

    Please no more delays Deloitte.
    I'd be very surprised if that happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭BlueCop8790


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    I’m actually really concerned that following the survey, if X amount of people say the test was poor/unfair they may make us all re-test again.

    This campaign is a nightmare.

    Please no more delays Deloitte.
    Don't worry mate, this survey is only used to give Deloitte an insight into the suitability of the IST and how it can be improved in the next campaign.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    I don’t know guys. I mean, outsourcing the police recruitment to Deloitte was to ensure fairness.

    To ask questions regarding the issue of fairness of the IST is a signal that they may have fallen short.

    They’re aware there are candidates who have attempted this test up to 3 times. While they may have been given different questions every time, it could be argued some candidates who had to repeat had unfair advantage due to practise opportunities etc. Could their be a legal challenge by someone who only sat the test once? I’ve no idea. I’m playing devils advocate.

    Personally, I thought the testing was fair. What I am concerned about is candidates latching on to the tech difficulties and derailing the process even further. Nightmare. Fingers crossed tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    I don’t know guys. I mean, outsourcing the police recruitment to Deloitte was to ensure fairness.

    To ask questions regarding the issue of fairness of the IST is a signal that they may have fallen short.

    They’re aware there are candidates who have attempted this test up to 3 times. While they may have been given different questions every time, it could be argued some candidates who had to repeat had unfair advantage due to practise opportunities etc. Could their be a legal challenge by someone who only sat the test once? I’ve no idea. I’m playing devils advocate.

    Personally, I thought the testing was fair. What I am concerned about is candidates latching on to the tech difficulties and detailing the process even further. Nightmare. Fingers crossed tho.

    As it is a legal requirement for all public sector recruitment to be open and fair process then yes you can argue that those that had an extra two and half weeks to to prepare for the test had a small advantage. Deloitte's problem would be if a bunch of people who did the test without difficulty missed the pass mark by a tiny margin then they could take an industrial tribunal.

    So here's the issue that they have, if they continue with the process whilst an industrial tribunal carries on, carry out AC, form merit pull and call folk to medicals. Industrial tribunal is won by the complainants then the merit pool is voided.

    All appoint able candidates at that stage are no longer appoint able because the process will have been deemed to not be open and fair and as such in contravention of the Police Act (Northern Ireland) 2001


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭jwhdkl5736


    Maxi515 wrote: »
    I don’t know guys. I mean, outsourcing the police recruitment to Deloitte was to ensure fairness.

    To ask questions regarding the issue of fairness of the IST is a signal that they may have fallen short.

    They’re aware there are candidates who have attempted this test up to 3 times. While they may have been given different questions every time, it could be argued some candidates who had to repeat had unfair advantage due to practise opportunities etc. Could their be a legal challenge by someone who only sat the test once? I’ve no idea. I’m playing devils advocate.

    Personally, I thought the testing was fair. What I am concerned about is candidates latching on to the tech difficulties and detailing the process even further. Nightmare. Fingers crossed tho.

    As it is a legal requirement for all public sector recruitment to be open and fair process then yes you can argue that those that had an extra two and half weeks to to prepare for the test had a small advantage. Deloitte's problem would be if a bunch of people who did the test without difficulty missed the pass mark by a tiny margin then they could take an industrial tribunal.

    So here's the issue that they have, if they continue with the process whilst an industrial tribunal carries on, carry out AC, form merit pull and call folk to medicals. Industrial tribunal is won by the complainants then the merit pool is voided.

    All appoint able candidates at that stage are no longer appoint able because the process will have been deemed to not be open and fair and as such in contravention of the Police Act (Northern Ireland) 2001


    This is what I was thinking. I can see this falling apart. I really hope it doesn’t pan out this way.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Pm me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    On a positive note the Tattoo policy has been chilled right out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    On a positive note the Tattoo policy has been chilled right out.

    Can you point me in the direction where it tells you about the tattoo policy. Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Last time they mentioned those with sleeves would have to cover arms on duty, not anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Slo85


    Last time they mentioned those with sleeves would have to cover arms on duty, not anymore.

    Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    Personally I don't think they should have changed the head, neck and hand tattoo policy. Not that I disagree with tattoo, far from it. But everyone should be "uniformed" and not stand out from one another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    NiK9 wrote: »
    Personally I don't think they should have changed the head, neck and hand tattoo policy. Not that I disagree with tattoo, far from it. But everyone should be "uniformed" and not stand out from one another.

    So you feel that having some ink on your body affects your ability to Iron a shirt and trousers, polish boots, shave (keep a beard tidy), tie up hair (for females and longer haired gents)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    NiK9 wrote: »
    Personally I don't think they should have changed the head, neck and hand tattoo policy. Not that I disagree with tattoo, far from it. But everyone should be "uniformed" and not stand out from one another.

    So you feel that having some ink on your body affects your ability to Iron a shirt and trousers, polish boots, shave (keep a beard tidy), tie up hair (for females and longer haired gents)?

    You know rightly when I said uniformed I didn't mean clothing. Everyone should look exactly the same when in clothing nothing about them should make them stand out differently from the rest of the other constables working. No matter if that be tattoos, piercings or crazy hair colour (excluding us gingers of course lol).
    People don't have good memories, if someone wants to make a complaint etc and they can't remember who it was but they remember 1 cop had a tat that's the one they will report. Same reason UK forces only use shepherd breeds for general purpose dog work and even then they never use white ones because they stand out too much. Everyone should look exactly the same when in uniform.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    You are in a uniform

    Discriminating against non-offensive tattoos is like discriminating because of skin colour

    How does having mum tattooed on your knuckles affect your ability to be a police officer?

    Because it's grotesque?

    By that logic missing a finger is just as un-uniform. Just as "identifying"

    No they use Shepherd Breeds because they work and have a lot of excusive breeders for the services emergency and armed forces. If it's not broke why fix it?


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