The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

DaveyDave wrote: »

Quick one regarding fuel level and range. The full half of the tank seems to last an eternity and once past half a tank it seems to go quicker. I'm used to that now but is that also linked to range?

I assumed range is based on the average recent MPG? When I fill up it says 620km but cruising to work it goes up to 660-680km after about 60-90km at about 45mpg commuting and when it starts to lower, it can still go back up 10km the odd day.

Now after passing half a tank my commute of 15km home seems to drop the range by 20km each day. I know it's all estimated and just a guide but is it just because the second half of the tank just seems to go quicker than the range is also lowering quicker?

It's not like the car is left running to clear ice or anything and I've actually been using the heated seats and all that less lately.

All cars (or any I've experienced) behave like that. First half of the tank always "seems" to last longer, but its just your perception really. The gauge will be slow to move off "full" as there'll be a certain amount of fuel in the pipe going into the tank for starters. The gauge is really just that - an approximation of what fuel you have.

Your range is based on your current average consumption. So on a long smooth motorway run you'll probably see your range is really good... but stop/start in heavy city traffic and your range will fall off a cliff. Again its all very approximate and I wouldn't get too hung up on it. The only figures that I see as truly useful are the MPG since refuel / long term MPG. Those are very accurate.

Will you be collecting your new machine next week Joe?

JoeA3 wrote: »

Nah, don't think it's even built yet! I expect to see it around mid Feb, but I haven't chased it up at all since ordering (I learned the last time that its pointless, just may as well forget about it until it comes).

What are you getting?

Noooo! It's an e-Golf


Only kidding obviously. I've a new R on the way. I too'd and fro'd about it for a week back in November trying to justify both the man maths and offloading what is a perfectly good existing car... but I eventually got a deal I was happy with and pulled the trigger.

DaveyDave wrote: »

A week? Is that all? Prets? Well wear, lots of pics when you get it

Oh yeah, prets. I did consider the black ones. I think they look really good with some colours, a bit more menacing than the grey wheels. But I stuck with the grey ones in the end.

Spotted this today outside a hotel. Nice looking machine, think it's a PP as the GTI on the badge is in red.

Looks like it has had some suspension work done too but not sure?

There's a fair difference in the price for the PP, €3k for bigger brakes and 15hp, would the differential really be worth the price? It's closer to €1,200 extra in the UK which might explain why it accounted for 45% of GTI sales, the lads in the UK are happy with the 7 speed DSG for the motorway too.

JoeA3 wrote: »

I think if you’re considering a GTI you’d be f’ing nuts to buy the non PP version. But that’s where the problem starts for me. A PP GTI is 5.5k cheaper than an R. But then if you add stuff onto the GTI that’s standard on an R - alarm, 19’s, then that gap gets considerably smaller....

Exactly what I was thinking. Go for the PP, then the R isn't too far away...

At the same time the Leon Cupra is GTI money with 300hp. I wonder would that be worth going down a step on the quality over the Golf. It's €500ish more than the standard GTI but it would have been a lot cheaper if the DSG wasn't €4k and all the features like sensors, camera and heated seats have to be added individually so they add up too.

The Octavia VRS is about as ill equipped as an A3 S Line, €43k and it also doesn't have tinted windows or ACC.

Is the Leon Cupra not 4wd?

300bhp through the front wheels is brave and fun I'd say.

MidMan25 wrote: »

Where are you getting that price from? List price for the 245bhp (PP equivalent) VRS is 41k in estate form. The lack of tinted windows as standard is a strange one but they are cheap option so not really a big deal. Other than that the spec is really good and extras are generally a lot more reasonable than with VW.

The Cupra on the other hand..... standard spec is awful. I looked at it but the sums didn't add up. 300bhp is also an awful lot to be putting through two wheels in a country as persistently wet as Ireland!

€42,000 for the DSG model then add specs like ACC for €730 which forces heated steering wheel for €180, Park Assist for €810, €180 tint etc.

Comes out at €45,600 for the RS and €45,200 for the GTI PP, both with park assist, keyless and tech pack equivalent features like heated seats.

Interesting that people always mention the likes of the Leon and Octavia as cheaper equivalents but I find if you get the top spec models and add just a few features they end up being the same price as the Golf. Park assist is only €223 vs €810 on the Octavia.

I suppose if you're going for a paddy spec standard car and don't want ACC as standard like on the Golf going for an Octavia or a Leon for under €20k would help, but if you start adding things to those cars then the price difference disappears but the build quality is still lower.

Anyone any thoughts on the Polo GTI?

New model is due here in March, €33k base price. I've been looking at some videos on youtube and I really like it. I'll definitely take a test drive when its in showrooms. I reckon with a decent set of wheels and some extras (tech pack etc) once a dealer discount is applied you would get it in for very close to that.

MidMan25 wrote: »

What's the obsession with ACC? These are driver's cars. I can appreciate there are certain situations where it would be nice to have the car drive for you i.e. traffic jams etc. but i'm not bothered about having it or park assist. The Golf comes with cloth seats and 18s as standard vs. Alcantara and 19s for the Leon/Octavia. I'd be pretty confident that speccing them both up to the same standard would result in a 2-3k premium for the Golf which is about right.

Listed prices are one thing, you'll get a bigger discount on a Leon/Octavia than a Golf so in reality that price gap is going to be even wider.

No obsession but ACC personally is very useful and while park assist isn't necessary it's a handy feature to have as I frequent some tight multi storey spaces. It also adds an extra set of sensors on the front and rear bumper. Plus the novelty pays for it really

At the same time I'd be happy with 18" wheels, I know some would want 19". I would miss alcantara though...

Is the resale value on the Octavia not going down though?