Should unkel sell his Ioniq?

unkel · 16-12-2017 01:16AM

KCross wrote: »

Nissan have also made changes to the take off of the Leaf as some people were complaining of wheel spin so you will get different figures depending on the year of Leaf you test drive.

I took the fastest figures for the Leaf from the comparison website (apart from the tuned Nismo Leaf) and I disregarded all the slower ones. Did you not check my link?

And of course we can debate things. That's what boards is all about! And you are one of the most helpful posters here on the EV forum, I find I am clicking the thanks button nearly every time I read one of your posts.

But perhaps in this case you need to accept that Ioniq really is a lot faster than Leaf. No big deal, just a fact! Teslas are a lot faster than Ioniq!

Maybe we should share my new signature? It should get petrol heads to take notice of how much fun EVs are to drive?

16-12-2017 06:36PM

unkel wrote: »

you need to accept that Ioniq really is a lot faster than Leaf. No big deal, just a fact!

OMG are you still spouting this rubbish, When I test drove the Ionig I simply didn't notice it being faster, cros also said the Ioniq does not feel faster than a leaf at all either, it's got 10 more hp FFS.

I know you love the Ioniq and all and it's a good car but seriously mate, to still be telling people an Ioniq is a lot faster than a leaf is incredible.

magentis · 16-12-2017 08:10PM

The tailgating tool that I regularly encounter around ashbourne/coolquay/swords in an Ionic thinks his is a ferrari,does 0-60 in 2 seconds,tops out at 250 mph and makes him invincible!

liamog · 16-12-2017 08:30PM

The Ioniq is faster than the Leaf.
It feels faster and has been confirmed to be faster in tests.

https://www.0-60specs.com/car-comparison/?car1=18936&car2=1069

I had one guy at a fast charger tell me the Ioniq was much slower than the Leaf. On his test drive he hadn't even switched it to Sport mode.
Most people when comparing performance of cars do not run it in Eco mode.

unkel · 16-12-2017 10:04PM

Oh yeah, maybe I should have mentioned sports mode. In normal mode according to the tech specs, it's only a few tens of a second slower. Yeah right. In practice the difference is like night and day. Normal mode feels like Leaf, sports mode feels like Ioniq :pac:

@Mad_Lad - I don't love Ioniq. It's a decent well specced econobox and a good EV, which has cost me almost nothing so far to own. And it is surprisingly nippy. But it ain't no BMW

unkel · 22-12-2017 11:11AM

n97 mini wrote: »

You and I will have a race, you in your Ioniq and me in the Leaf. First to make it to Sligo and back wins.

CHAdeMO in Roscommon has been replaced by a triple head according to the eCars newsletter, so I guess I will win that race after all

Will make a bit of a difference to me so I'm happy about it. Have family in Bundoran that we occasionally visit and would have had to go via M1 and Laghey to get there before now (making it at least a 4 hour trip instead of the 2.5 hours in ICE) and hope to hell Laghey isn't out of service.

cros13 · 23-12-2017 04:11PM

We're nearing the end of the year and total Ioniq EV production for export (i.e. everyone except South Korea) averages 794 units per month including dealer demos / showcars etc.

Total export production 8,738
Total domestic production 7,098 (domestic orders were prioritised)

Total Ioniq EV production this year (to end Nov.): 15,836

UK waiting list is now 12-18 months

For scale Hyundai has produced ~10% of the number of EVs this year as Tesla.
Given the difference in average battery capacity per vehicle, if Hyundai had used the same amount of kWh as Tesla to produce 30kWh packs for Ioniqs they could have built ~320,000 Ioniqs this year.

Manufacturer|kWh available for vehicle production
Hyundai|475,080
Tesla|9,570,000

And this is before the gigafactory pitches in with any real volume.

n97 mini · 23-12-2017 07:31PM

unkel wrote: »

CHAdeMO in Roscommon has been replaced by a triple head according to the eCars newsletter, so I guess I will win that race after all

Will make a bit of a difference to me so I'm happy about it. Have family in Bundoran that we occasionally visit and would have had to go via M1 and Laghey to get there before now (making it at least a 4 hour trip instead of the 2.5 hours in ICE) and hope to hell Laghey isn't out of service.

Roscommon isn't on the road to Sligo though. If I was going to Roscommon I'd go via Athlone, so it represents a fair detour.

liamog · 23-12-2017 07:43PM

Planned capacity for 2017 was 1,200 per month.
As of September they're delivering over 1,800 per month.

Rumoured 2018 targets are 48,000 Ioniq's and 18,600 Kona's.
I believe the Kona EV is due later in the year. I suspect the targets will be 4,000 and 2,000 per month for each.

Unkel, maybe you should sell the Ioniq, pick up a Kona and see if lightning can strike twice.

Hal1 · 23-12-2017 07:55PM

A 330i is what you need in fairness. Before all the dino juice runs out....

unkel · 23-12-2017 11:01PM

n97 mini wrote: »

Roscommon isn't on the road to Sligo though. If I was going to Roscommon I'd go via Athlone, so it represents a fair detour.

Indeed it's a big detour. The only thing possibly preventing me from winning the race is the distance between my home and the charger though. It's 170km. Which I can do at 120km/h GPS speed no bother. As long as it's not in winter, it's not raining and not windy

Picking up the fancy wine in Supervalue Lucan this evening and parked beside a 100D. Herself had not seen one up close before and she was impressed. Maybe that's what I should be concentrating on

thierry14 · 23-12-2017 11:54PM

cros13 wrote: »

We're nearing the end of the year and total Ioniq EV production for export (i.e. everyone except South Korea) averages 794 units per month including dealer demos / showcars etc.

Total export production 8,738
Total domestic production 7,098 (domestic orders were prioritised)

Total Ioniq EV production this year (to end Nov.): 15,836

UK waiting list is now 12-18 months

For scale Hyundai has produced ~10% of the number of EVs this year as Tesla.
Given the difference in average battery capacity per vehicle, if Hyundai had used the same amount of kWh as Tesla to produce 30kWh packs for Ioniqs they could have built ~320,000 Ioniqs this year.

Manufacturer|kWh available for vehicle production
Hyundai|475,080
Tesla|9,570,000

And this is before the gigafactory pitches in with any real volume.

If Tesla get Model 3 right, they are going to do serious damage

If they can produce 20-40k a month as promised, they could be a big auto company soon.

They have all of 2018 and 2019 to themselves by the looks of it, thats alot of time

Big auto **** could have really ****ed up if Model 3 catches on

I really hope it does

Long range one has fantastic specs

500km range, 0-60 4.8 secs, 8 year warranty on drivetrain

Thats the spec sheet for Model S a few years ago

24-12-2017 12:48AM

I wouldn't be taking photos of that parking in fairness !

thierry14 · 24-12-2017 01:02AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wouldn't be taking photos of that parking in fairness !

Haha good spot Mad_Lad

Ewan Hoosarmi · 24-12-2017 10:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I wouldn't be taking photos of that parking in fairness !

What? It's perfectly parked. Between the lines, straight and well within the parking bay. Not like the Ioniq abandoned beside it. :P

goz83 · 24-12-2017 11:15AM

It was the wife parking, right Unkel?

unkel · 25-12-2017 01:22AM

LOL, lads

No, can't blame the wife this time, it was me. Wasn't going to park there at all, was driving up to the charger. To find it occupied. Turned around and was driving away when I spotted the Tesla at the last moment. No other cars parked anywhere near, so I stopped and took the picture

I was within the lines though. But not as neatly parked as the huge Model S, a good 2 sizes bigger than Ioniq, I grant you

thierry14 · 27-02-2018 03:01PM

After todays announcement from Hyundai

Its now or never imo for depreciation free driving

beauf · 27-02-2018 03:20PM

For those of us who are not psychic, I assume you mean this...

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/hyundai-s-new-all-electric-kona-crossover-promises-range-up-to-470km-1.3407268

Shefwedfan · 27-02-2018 03:35PM

beauf wrote: »

For those of us who are not psychic, I assume you mean this...

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/hyundai-s-new-all-electric-kona-crossover-promises-range-up-to-470km-1.3407268

That would be the one, I would guess they will start to stick the 39kW battery into the Ioniq as well....

No point having 3 different batteries across the range

unkel · 27-02-2018 07:15PM

It's an announcement, don't get too excited, thierry14

Hyundai can't even make 28kWh Ioniqs in any numbers anywhere near current demand. Just talking to a Hyundai dealer an hour ago and he is very frustrated they can't get more cars as there is huge demand (even in Ireland) for Ioniq EVs. He says nobody wants the hybrid / PHEV, everyone wants electric

There is not a hope Hyundai will start delivering budget 40kWh cars this year (or 28kWh cars for that matter)

Nissan have rich pickings even though Leaf 2 is pretty disappointing...

Should unkel sell his Ioniq?

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