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2017-18 Champions Cup

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  • #992
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,359 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    have a bloody feeling Saracens will be one of the best 2nd place teams and will end up playing Munster or Leinster in the QFs

    Munster or Leinsters could win it dis year, please let it be Munster. ATM I'd Fancy Clermont or La Rochelle to win it out

    the app I use is Flashscore and it's ok except for the flash screen when u load it first


  • #993
    Alfonso Ripe Gentry
    Posts: 0 ✭ Alfonso Ripe Gentry


    Exeter Chiefs
    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Crazy that there is still no app for this competition.

    On the site it is a hassle to find what channels the games are on.

    I wish the 42.ie would put up the tv stations on the fixtures.

    It's really not.

    http://www.epcrugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures_champions_cup.php?includeref=21924&season=2017-2018&round=4


  • #994
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Rhea Massive Barrel wrote: »
    It's really not.

    http://www.epcrugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures_champions_cup.php?includeref=21924&season=2017-2018&round=4

    On the mobile site, the broadcasters aren’t visible.


  • #995
    Alfonso Ripe Gentry
    Posts: 0 ✭ Alfonso Ripe Gentry


    Exeter Chiefs
    thelad95 wrote: »
    On the mobile site, the broadcasters aren’t visible.

    Fair enough, that's not very good then.


  • #996
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Jeepers that is some downtrou. Judging by the score one side was bent over so much that emmet’s label of sarseholes might have an element of exhibitionism about it...


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  • #997
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    thelad95 wrote: »
    On the mobile site, the broadcasters aren’t visible.

    Just use Ulimate Rugby all the competitions in one app.


  • #998
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    thelad95 wrote: »
    On the mobile site, the broadcasters aren’t visible.

    With the pro14 site last year it was the same but if you put the phone into landscape mode it showed the tv channels.

    Thank goodness just 1 broadcaster next year though BT need to sort out their presenters.
    Craig Doyle is poor and BOD just lacks something.

    Ben Kay and Ferris are good.
    As for Austin Healy the less said the better.


  • #999
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Just use Ulimate Rugby all the competitions in one app.

    Downloaded it but looks for you to subscribe once you look at a few fixtures.


  • #1000
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Downloaded it but looks for you to subscribe once you look at a few fixtures.

    Never had that on android. Sometimes an ad comes up asking you to register but just click cancel


  • #1001
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    They want you to pay for the minor competitions but not the major ones.


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  • #1002
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Exeter Chiefs
    pickarooney wrote: »
    They want you to pay for the minor competitions but not the major ones.

    Match stats are behind the paywall for all comps.


  • #1003
    errlloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Exeter Chiefs
    I'd say for many here Clermont are our favourite non Irish team. In fact, given the polarisation of provincial support the fact we all love Clermont is one of just two things we agree on. (the other is the fact we all hate sarries).

    But it's worth noting that in my experience the appreciation from Clermont fans to us seems to be reciprocal. At last years champions cup final I traded jerseys with some Clermont fans. At other times I've tripped over them they've been great. A mate of mine was in London for business today. Managed to persuade a non rugby fan friend of his to go the rescheduled match. He wanted a Clermont flag, but couldn't get anyone to give him one, until he made it clear he was a Leinster fan. At which point an 8 foot giant was handed over, and a pint exchanged.

    It's weird how much I like them, ultimately they knocked Leinster out last year, and in 2013. But **** history, they're a great bunch of lads.


  • #1004
    [Deleted User]
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    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Saracens are really struggling at the moment. Hard to know how good Clermont are as they breezed in for some of the tries.

    Going by the comments it seems the French were a bit pissed about their treatment with the rearrangement of this game so maybe plenty of motivation there.

    Not surprised to see Saracens struggling with a lot of their players on Lions duty.
    Goes to show how important the rest was for the Irish lads.

    Billy Vunipola had said previously how the players felt they were overburdened with games. Perhaps we are seeing it now.

    With no relegation in the Pro14 it is easy to rest lads when you could finish 3rd in your conference and still win the competition out from there.

    Sorry this is a ridiculous argument. One team gets relegated from the Premiership, one. If the pro 14 had relegation it would make utterly no difference to a side coming 3rd in their conference. The pro 14 sides beating English teams have no fears of relegation and likewise the English sides don't either.


  • #1005
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    Well let's hope this trend continues to the conclusion of this weekend!

    And continue it magnificently did!!


  • #1006
    swiwi_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭swiwi_




    Raka's hat-trick for Clermont (commentary in French).

    Seems to me he could play for France, I can't see that he has played 7s or 15s for Fiji.


  • #1007
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Raka's hat-trick for Clermont (commentary in French).

    Seems to me he could play for France, I can't see that he has played 7s or 15s for Fiji.
    He can. His wife is French. He's also been in the country since November 2014, but not sure if he broke that stay.


  • #1008
    gamma001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭gamma001


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Downloaded it but looks for you to subscribe once you look at a few fixtures.

    doesn't ask me on ios


  • #1009
    vienne86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Exeter Chiefs
    AdamD wrote: »
    Sorry this is a ridiculous argument. One team gets relegated from the Premiership, one. If the pro 14 had relegation it would make utterly no difference to a side coming 3rd in their conference. The pro 14 sides beating English teams have no fears of relegation and likewise the English sides don't either.

    ....and there is relegation in the Top 14 too, but they seem to manage!


  • #1010
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Castres
    D'ya reckon the cheetahs were watching last weekends games thinking we could do damage in those competitions?


  • #1011
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    vienne86 wrote: »
    ....and there is relegation in the Top 14 too, but they seem to manage!
    Donncha O'Callaghan was saying (quite fairly imo) that the Premiership sides had some tough games coming into this weekend whereas Munster and Leinster had a couple of relatively easy ones in the run up.


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  • #1012
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Donncha O'Callaghan was saying (quite fairly imo) that the Premiership sides had some tough games coming into this weekend whereas Munster and Leinster had a couple of relatively easy ones in the run up.

    That's hindsight though. If the side who've been playing tough games win, then they're battle - hardened and have found their rhythm. If they lose, they're exhausted and flogged.

    Conversely, if the Irish provinces had lost we'd have said that the disruption due to the AIs was the reason, no cohesion etc.


  • #1013
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Look whatever about being a bit fresher in the build up, the fact of the matter is that nearly every single English side (except Bath) were absolutely destroyed, with Saints, Chiefs, Quins and Saracens being beaten up in their own backyard.

    Having a difficult game in the build up is no excuse for not being competitive.

    Northampton have conceded 100 points in Franklin gardens in two games. For a supposedly European stronghold, that is a total and utter disgrace.

    7 English sides got three match points out of a possible 35 with only Bath getting a LBP.

    Simply cannot be put down to an easier run in.


  • #1014
    Buer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    People are reading too much into leagues and the impact the preparation these leagues had in terms of having to concentrate more on their domestic campaigns. Saracens are simply in brutal form. They've lost 3 in a row in the AP and faced a motivated an excellent team yesterday who blew them away. Leicester are in poor form (even losing at home to Worcester in the league) and lost comfortably to a better team in Munster. Harlequins aren't a great team to begin with and lost a game that could have gone either way.

    The form teams in the AP are Bath, Exeter, Wasps and Gloucester. 3 of them lost this weekend but they faced 3 of the top sides in Toulon (away), Leinster and La Rochelle. No shame in losing any of those games and they're all capable of winning the return fixtures.


  • #1015
    Gage Large Viper
    Posts: 0 ✭ Gage Large Viper


    Shut up Buer


  • #1016
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    Montpellier
    Can we just ban everyone from posting in this thread/forum except Buer


  • #1017
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,009 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Castres
    thelad95 wrote: »
    Northampton have conceded 100 points in Franklin gardens in two games. For a supposedly European stronghold, that is a total and utter disgrace.

    Jim Mallinder has paid the price for it.


  • #1018
    Alfonso Ripe Gentry
    Posts: 0 ✭ Alfonso Ripe Gentry


    Exeter Chiefs
    Buer wrote: »
    People are reading too much into leagues and the impact the preparation these leagues had in terms of having to concentrate more on their domestic campaigns. Saracens are simply in brutal form. They've lost 3 in a row in the AP and faced a motivated an excellent team yesterday who blew them away. Leicester are in poor form (even losing at home to Worcester in the league) and lost comfortably to a better team in Munster. Harlequins aren't a great team to begin with and lost a game that could have gone either way.

    The form teams in the AP are Bath, Exeter, Wasps and Gloucester. 3 of them lost this weekend but they faced 3 of the top sides in Toulon (away), Leinster and La Rochelle. No shame in losing any of those games and they're all capable of winning the return fixtures.

    DOC was on OTB last night doing his best to talk up Worcester as tougher opposition than the side the provinces face... eh no DOC Worcester are awful.


  • #1019
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    bilston wrote: »
    Jim Mallinder has paid the price for it.
    Just Ospreys luck to have a big away win in Europe and to then be facing a completely different coach in the return fixture where they face an unpredictable challenge. Worse if Mallinder was actually the problem. :D


  • #1020
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Exeter Chiefs
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Shut up Buer

    Pro-Ligind Buer


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  • #1021
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,820 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    You only have to look at London Welsh to see how quickly things can go wrong for a club in England.

    Half the French sides don't bother with Europe as they are rightly more concerned with staying in the financially lucrative Top 14.

    When Munster got in financial difficulty a couple of years back they got a handout from the irfu. That doesn't happen for clubs in England or France.

    As I read/heard somewhere the club scene is more important for the French/English whereas the Irish have Europe as their primary goal to bring the money in.

    A good article here for a change from Neil Francis about finances in England and France
    https://amp.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/neil-francis-financial-lunacy-has-pushed-elite-clubs-close-to-extinction-35598261.html

    And another article about clubs losing money and the risks involved.
    https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/featured-post/28279/exclusive-wage-bills-will-push-clubs-to-the-brink/


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