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Are the Irish gone lazy to work?

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  • 04-12-2017 4:02pm
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    bigpink
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    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't get staff and a huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?


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    gifted
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't staff and huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    Think???.....feck that


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    me_irl
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    I've read the title five times...








    ...what?


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    srsly78
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    Yeah and don't think we can be arsed with proper grammar in thread titles either. Maybe we should get some foreigners in to do it properly?


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    Kimbot
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't staff and huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    WHat cant they staff? :confused:


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    Fr_Dougal
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't staff and huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?


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    D3V!L
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    jonnycivic wrote: »
    WHat cant they staff? :confused:

    The staff !! Duuuuh :rolleyes:


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    Tombo2001
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't get staff and a huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    Its called full employment.

    We live in this constant media / social media thing of 'the country's going to the dogs'.

    Always looking for the negative slant on things.

    Full employment is a great thing while it lasts. Local staff are hard to get here. Its the same in London, New York, Munich, Stockholm, San Francisco.

    Its quite different in Athens, Naples, Marseille, Madrid. Employers there have no problem finding local staff at cheap rates.

    Which group do you want to be in?

    If you are happy to be in the first group then stop whingeing about being in the first group.


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    vicwatson
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    No, but gone too lazy to use proper grammer.


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    Boom_Bap
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    I think that the best person for the job should be the one to get the job.


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    PeterParker957
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I think that the best person for the job should be the one to get the job.

    Ssssh, don't be saying things like that!!!!!

    Walls have ears.....

    :D:D:D:D


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    donegaLroad
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    they can't 'staff' because an Irish person can qualify for the dole (if they have been paying their prsi), they will get paid slightly more in the 9 - 5 job, but may not qualify for other benefits such as rent allowance. There is more of a chance that a foreign person will fill the position, as they may be new to the country and wont have been paying prsi. so wont qualify for the dole.

    As the old saying goes, there is no money in working.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    donegaLroad wrote: »
    they can't 'staff' because an Irish person can qualify for the dole (if they have been paying their prsi), they will get paid slightly more in the 9 - 5 job, but may not qualify for other benefits such as rent allowance. There is more of a chance that a foreign person will fill the position, as they may be new to the country and wont have been paying prsi. so wont qualify for the dole.

    As the old saying goes, there is no money in working.

    Hence why we have over 2 million people in employment and an unemployment rate of 6% at the moment?


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    PeterParker957
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    Kaylin Calm Golfer wrote: »
    Hence why we have over 2 million people in employment and an unemployment rate of 6% at the moment?

    We have a work ethic.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    PeterParker957 wrote: »
    We have a work ethic.

    Of course we do. That's why the OP is nonsense.


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    PeterParker957
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    Kaylin Calm Golfer wrote: »
    Of course we do. That's why the OP is nonsense.

    Indeed! It even gets me annoyed when you watch a TV show or advert and you their alarm going off at 7.30am.

    Like yeah try being a commuter!!!! That's a lie in that!


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    whisky_galore
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    PeterParker957 wrote: »
    We have a work ethic.

    It depends on what the work involves...


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    Kimbot
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    PeterParker957 wrote: »
    Indeed! It even gets me annoyed when you watch a TV show or advert and you their alarm going off at 7.30am.

    Like yeah try being a commuter!!!! That's a lie in that!

    Are ya mad Ted, that was nearly my days work done when I was commuting :pac:


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    Deise Vu
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    We had this during the Celtic Tiger too: "Jobs that are now beneath the Irish". Are Irish people expected to turn their noses up at highly paid IT or financial services job because someone has an expectation of being served by a red-head with a knowledge of Hurling? There are a lot of possible descriptions for that but I will just stick with bizarre.


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    AllGunsBlazing
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    I'd be more interested to see how long before this thread would get shut down if any other nationality was substituted for 'Irish'.


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    RocketRaccoon
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    It's true, we're gone back to where we were 10 years ago. Working in the likes of Mcdonalds is now beneath a lot of young Irish people.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    It's true, we're gone back to where we were 10 years ago. Working in the likes of Mcdonalds is now beneath a lot of young Irish people.

    Does 'beneath' mean they can get a better job elsewhere?


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    doolox
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    Better social welfare provision after a few years work for Irish residents. Better education in English language and local customs means that Irish residents and immigrants with a few years experience of living here move up the jobs ladder to better paying positions. The cost of rentals and living are now so high in Dublin that many people cannot afford to take up a low paying job in Dublin unless they share housing at a high rate of occupancy, not suitable for married couples and people with children.


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    Agricola
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    Sorry, cant reply to the thread today. I'm feeling abit ill. Will be back tomorrow and will reply then!


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    Guy:Incognito
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    jonnycivic wrote: »
    WHat cant they staff? :confused:

    The staff room


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    Raging_Ninja
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't get staff and a huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    Time to bump up the advertised salary.


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    Birneybau
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't get staff and a huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    I think you went into a coma in, I'll guess, 1995?


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    Pithythefool
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    Its the dodgy pyramid building up again.

    Irish people will be criticised for being lazy (despite the massive complexities behind it), while cheap labour is imported by the boat load to fill jobs that irish people "don't want".

    And then the pyramid topples or bubble bursts, back to the beginning again. Ingenious way of running a stable country!

    How about building a stable economy that is built on its own resources and people steadily, and therefore with much greater stability? Nah, that would be madness.

    The booms are boomier, the busts are bustier (oo er missus!), and the same tripe will be regurgitated time and time again. Memories of goldfish in this country.


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    #29
    pilly
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    For gods sake grammar Nazis give it up! You obviously all understood the question so there's no need for the continual smart remarks.

    In answer to the OP, yes I think Irish people are lazy when it comes to working for a living.


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    server down
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    bigpink wrote: »
    Speaking with someone in a management role saying they can't get staff and a huge increase in foreign workers I've noticed.What ye all think?

    Are foreign workers not staff?


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    Kuva
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    pilly wrote: »
    For gods sake grammar Nazis give it up!

    But day were all so clever.


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