Worst sledging you have received or heard on a gaa pitch?

Professor Moriarty · 30-11-2017 08:20PM

megadodge wrote: »

The whole "nice day for a hanging" is most likely a pubtalk variation of an actual incident that former Meath All-Ireland winner Liam Hayes experienced.

In his excellent book 'Out of Our Skins', Hayes (whose brother hung himself off the crossbar in the local pitch) wrote about how an unnamed Dublin player used that very phrase as he walked up to him just before a big championship match began.

Wonder how that Dublin player feels these days.

On a lighter note, I remember a replay between Dublin and Meath in the 80s. After the ball had gone back up the pitch, Mick Lyons (I think) noticed that his man's boot had come off. He went over, picked it up and turned towards the player. Then he flung it into the crowd. I think RTE showed it on replay at the time so it might be on youtube.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 30-11-2017 08:30PM

Peatys wrote: »

Every time a player was on the pitch who lost a parent, it was always mentioned.

Along the lines of, 'lucky your mam isn't around to see that'

Didn't something like this occur during that Tipp and Tyrone U21 football final. I believe this was part of the reason why the Tipperary team were so angry in the aftermath.

I personally witnessed racist abuse being directed at a player in a minor club game about two months back. It came from the sideline and happened more than once. Truly shameful antics, people like that have no business being involved in our sports.

GetWithIt · 30-11-2017 08:44PM

So many posts. So few anecdotes.

Anyways back in the day I played for a big town GAA club and it was always the opposition supporters who'd give you lip.

"Go back to your slums" was a pretty frequent one. It was water off a ducks back as you'd have driven past some hovels just to find these backwater sticks.

The personal things others are repeating here I just can't relate to. We'd never have tolerated one of our own say things like that.

fullstop · 30-11-2017 08:45PM

Powerhouse wrote: »

Happily, knowing where to draw the line was easy in this case. Stick to the title of the thread.

Any chance you could stop derailing it?

Hulk Hands · 30-11-2017 09:11PM

Powerhouse wrote: »

Yeah, that's the other side of it which make stuff even less believable - the recycling of the same old yarns. But as we have seen looking for a factual basis to back up stories up is not something everyone likes.

A quick search finds the clown derailing the thread because he wants to deal in facts and not hearsay was dealing in solely hearsay on the Tipp thread a few months back

Powerhouse wrote: »

No imaginative spiel at all. The events DID happen. The only question is the precise nature of them. As for events that are not going to happen..........let's see about that. If Tipperary don't win the All Irekand title the Barrett decision will forever, rightly or wrongly, be blamed for it and will, rightly or wrongly, undermine Ryan.

VONSHIRACH · 30-11-2017 09:19PM

megadodge wrote: »

The whole "nice day for a hanging" is most likely a pubtalk variation of an actual incident that former Meath All-Ireland winner Liam Hayes experienced.

In his excellent book 'Out of Our Skins', Hayes (whose brother hung himself off the crossbar in the local pitch) wrote about how an unnamed Dublin player used that very phrase as he walked up to him just before a big championship match began.

j.leahy is reputed to have said similar to g.mcinerney tipp vs galway

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 10:32PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

A quick search finds the clown derailing the thread because he wants to deal in facts and not hearsay was dealing in solely hearsay on the Tipp thread a few months back

There is something sad about people who on an anonymous discussion board have to go searching through old threads as they are so devoid of original thought. Sadder still when they don't understand the meaning of basic words. The dropping of Cathal Barrett from the Tipperary panel was a fact announced by the team management. It was not hearsay.

Well done on the name-calling though. What a classy guy you are.

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 10:35PM

VONSHIRACH wrote: »

j.leahy is reputed to have said similar to g.mcinerney tipp vs galway

Begob, we finally have our "liable" to quote the spelling of one of the geniuses among our number here who was worried about it yesterday.

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 10:36PM

fullstop wrote: »

Any chance you could stop derailing it?

Any chance you'd not reply and keep it going?

bucketybuck · 30-11-2017 10:38PM

Powerhouse wrote: »

There is something sad about people

There really, really is.

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 10:45PM

GetWithIt wrote: »

The personal things others are repeating here I just can't relate to.

In fairness a lot of the stuff here is recycled stories that are supposed to have happened in various places and matches. There has been very limited direct evidence from anyone. I'd say we hear very little of the proper stuff that goes on at inter-county level. I remember David Brady of Mayo saying what you had to listen to against some northern teams was sickening. I'd say some Donegal-Tyrone matches if they were not subject to omerta would churn up some beauties.

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 10:45PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

There really, really is.

Tis true for you!

Bonniedog · 30-11-2017 11:04PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Well, TBF, it is on topic as the assault took place as a result of sledging. Anyway, I heard an interview with the Gooch a few months ago. He was asked about sledging and he said he only really came across it once which was in an All Ireland semifinal. It was against a team from the North. He was raging and refused to shake his marker's hand afterwards.

Himself and Philly have had some torrid encounters but Philly doesn't go in for the nasty sledging stuff. Just likes roaring his head off at no-one in particular

Powerhouse · 30-11-2017 11:11PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

Himself and Philly have had some torrid encounters but Philly doesn't go in for the nasty sledging stuff. Just likes roaring his head off at no-one in particular

Didn't Cooper say that the worst thing about playing against those Dublin players was that they more or less ignored you and got on with the game!

Danny Boy · 30-11-2017 11:27PM

A pal of mine was playing for Letterkenny rugby club and told the story of their first home game against PSNI. There was an obvious edge from before the game, and it was niggly throughout with late tackles and a few off the ball incidents. Anyway the game is tight and with not long left there's a maul just in front of the Letterkenny line. The PSNI push forward and 5 metres out it collapses into a ruck. Boots fly in, there's pulling every which way and some sly digs go in. In the midst of the human carnage someone audibly calls out "take that you orange bastard". Cue uproar from the PSNI team, the ref blows quickly and breaks things up. As the players rise to their feet he calls forward the letterkenny centre he has deemed guilty of the remark. Before the player has even reached the ref the yellow card is taken out and flashed towards him. The bemused player stops, shakes his head, removes his mouthgard and greets the ref's admonishment with the immortal line "For F@@k's sake ref, I'm the only Prod on this team - it's hardly going to be me!"

jk23 · 30-11-2017 11:34PM

Some great stories and debates on the thread. Glad I decided to post it. Has anyone here ever been personally verbally attacked on the pitch? Been called useless or terrible. How did you react or would react in a hypothetical situation like that?...

Bonniedog · 01-12-2017 01:11AM

megadodge wrote: »

The whole "nice day for a hanging" is most likely a pubtalk variation of an actual incident that former Meath All-Ireland winner Liam Hayes experienced.

In his excellent book 'Out of Our Skins', Hayes (whose brother hung himself off the crossbar in the local pitch) wrote about how an unnamed Dublin player used that very phrase as he walked up to him just before a big championship match began.

Was it not a Cork player in one of the finals they played against one another? and incident led to a retaliation that led to Meath player being sent off?

17togo · 01-12-2017 01:27AM

Powerhouse wrote:

I'd say some Donegal-Tyrone matches if they were not subject to omerta would churn up some beauties.

I'm sure you've got some fact to back up your assumption that Donegal Tyrone matches would be especially bad!

Nekarsulm · 01-12-2017 01:57AM

On one of the rare occasions we played the PSNI at home ( often both "home" and away matches were played in the North) the Special Branch lad who travelled with the team got so hammered in the bar, that one of our Props managed to get his revolver off him, and had the barman put it under the counter.
The bus was near Monaghan when he realised he'd lost his gun, and they had to turn back to try and find it

Powerhouse · 01-12-2017 08:37AM

17togo wrote: »

I'm sure you've got some fact to back up your assumption that Donegal Tyrone matches would be especially bad!

Absolutely I have. Several players including Kerry's Cooper and Mayo's David Brady have said that the northern teams are specialists in such matters and there was always plenty of off the ball mouthing in those games. Let me know what your legal advisors think anyway.

17togo · 01-12-2017 09:36AM

Powerhouse wrote:

Absolutely I have. Several players including Kerry's Cooper and Mayo's David Brady have said that the northern teams are specialists in such matters and there was always plenty of off the ball mouthing in those games. Let me know what your legal advisors think anyway.

So you weren't on the pitch and didn't experience the sledging yourself? No need to get smart with the legal advise comment, you're the one hounding previous posters for giving examples of stories they've heard in the past, but you've just used that exact thing to accuse all Donegal and Tyrone players of sledging, seeing as you didn't name any specific players, we'll just assume any players that David Brady and Gooch came in contact with were sledging!

Powerhouse · 01-12-2017 11:39AM

17togo wrote: »

So you weren't on the pitch and didn't experience the sledging yourself? No need to get smart with the legal advise comment, you're the one hounding previous posters for giving examples of stories they've heard in the past, but you've just used that exact thing to accuse all Donegal and Tyrone players of sledging, seeing as you didn't name any specific players, we'll just assume any players that David Brady and Gooch came in contact with were sledging!

If you placed any value on the meaning of words as opposed to their capacity to simply take up space we wouldn't need this conversation. The fact that I wrote "I'd say some Donegal-Tyrone matches if they were not subject to omerta........................" make it obvious I am speculating. Unlike the examples you are trying to confuse the issue with I did not attribute any specific comment to any named player as has been done (in the face of all decent judgement and good taste) earlier in this thread.

You can assume anything you like about the players Cooper and David Brady came in contact with - make no difference to me. In fairness by your own strained logic David Brady accused every player from the North - since competition began - of sledging. It's probably best if you contact him directly. Not everyone uses language with the same precision and who knows what he really meant.

But fair play to you for helping to keep the thread on-topic anyway. Just for the record I am more than happy to deal with this sort of stuff on PM as people are worried about the thread going off topic.

danganabu · 01-12-2017 11:48AM

Maybe a mod could change the thread title to Powerhouse v The World??

Powerhouse · 01-12-2017 11:52AM

danganabu wrote: »

Maybe a mod could change the thread title to Powerhouse v The World??

Sometimes I wonder if these one-issue heroes who decide out of the blue that they are finally going to be the ones to sort me out are not in fact the same person.

17togo · 01-12-2017 11:57AM

You were making assumptions that we would have heard serious sledging in Tyrone Donegal matches based on what David Brady and Gooch said. By saying "I'd say" directly after mentioning them, that's implies an assumption. And again in the above thread "who knows what he really meant", you, apparently?!

But look I don't need to continue this on dm, I was just pointing the hypocrisy with your post after you pulling up other posters.

It's seems to be a touchy subject with you so I'll leave you at it!

Tell me how · 01-12-2017 12:09PM

This is a mess of a thread.

How's that for sledging.

S. Goodspeed · 01-12-2017 12:31PM

I think every single match I ever played in had some element of "sledging" which crossed the line - very personal insults, family etc.

There is definitely a blind eye turned to it when we are patting ourselves on the back about our great GAA community. But then someone gets a very special gift for his 21st birthday we cant wait to slaughter the poor lad. Personally I know which behaviour I find more detestable

tomwaterford · 01-12-2017 12:43PM

Tell me how wrote: »

This is a mess of a thread.

How's that for sledging.

Your a mess :pac:

Am I doing this right?

Powerhouse · 01-12-2017 12:54PM

17togo wrote: »

You were making assumptions that we would have heard serious sledging in Tyrone Donegal matches based on what David Brady and Gooch said. By saying "I'd say" directly after mentioning them, that's implies an assumption. And again in the above thread "who knows what he really meant", you, apparently?!

But look I don't need to continue this on dm, I was just pointing the hypocrisy with your post after you pulling up other posters.

It's seems to be a touchy subject with you so I'll leave you at it!

You were making assumptions that we would have heard serious sledging in Tyrone Donegal matches based on what David Brady and Gooch said. By saying "I'd say" directly after mentioning them, that's implies an assumption.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said - you were the one going on about "facts". If you'd accepted the reality that it was a fairly clear assumption instead of trying to be the big man you wouldn't have wasted your time replying.

But look I don't need to continue this on dm, I was just pointing the hypocrisy with your post after you pulling up other posters.

As you have implicitly conceded in your reply there was no hypocrisy. You I speculated broadly based on what two old players have said as well as seeing many rows in Donegal-Tyrone games which might reasonably be assumed to have their origins in comments made. People are free to agree or disagree but it's a reasonable speculation. I never claimed it to be otherwise. I did and still do object to a player being named as having made a nasty comment on the pitch which cannot be corroborated. Anyone with a shred of decency would see that as fair and reasonable.

It's seems to be a touchy subject with you so I'll leave you at it!

Far from it - you are the one trying to leave the stage. I could keep this sh1t up all day as my bona fides are absolutely solid. No player should be named as having made a comment in the manner that has happened here. There is no need to hijack the thread - as I wrote earlier I am happy to do this on PM. But I will forever defend players against being defamed on the internet when I can. It's wrong and unfair that it happens for the entertainment of a few mouth almighties trying to get away from the tedium of their work and I make no apologies for saying it. That's not about touchiness. It's just about decency really.

Powerhouse · 01-12-2017 01:00PM

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

I think every single match I ever played in had some element of "sledging" which crossed the line - very personal insults, family etc.

There is definitely a blind eye turned to it when we are patting ourselves on the back about our great GAA community. But then someone gets a very special gift for his 21st birthday we cant wait to slaughter the poor lad. Personally I know which behaviour I find more detestable

There's a slight difference though isn't there? The average sledge is not filmed and put up on social media by the guy's friends unlike the incident to which you refer. If it was and people had evidence that their local hero is really a bit of a scumbag on the pitch attitudes might be different. It's not a measure of which behaviour is more detestable. It's just which one is done more publicly.

Worst sledging you have received or heard on a gaa pitch?

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