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Belfast International Airport Police Recruitment

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  • #2
    Razor3677
    Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Razor3677


    Tempting, although noticed that the salary is very poor and the duties aren't as appealing as I initially thought.


  • #3
    Timetravel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Think it’s come up maybe once or twice since the 1509 campaign. Last time they were only giving out applications to people who had attended an info day/evening or whatever. Think it’s 2 years probation, then you do GV. There was a guy at my PCA who said he was in it.


  • #4
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Personally I wouldn't. I considered it last year while obviously still in 1509 but thought better of it.

    Ultimately you are security with firearms and if you are happy with that then go for it but it's not a career in policing. You can't do a few years there and transfer to the PSNI.

    At least with the Harbour Police you have a more varied role.

    Just dug out the info pack from last time.
    One of FAQ's was 'Will I be guaranteed a job when I complete training?'
    The answer was ' The initial contract is for the period of the student programme. However, on successful completion of the programme and vacancies are available, these will be offered.'


  • #5
    NiK9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    I had applied for it before but withdrew when I received more information. I personally think it's just the airports way of cutting costs by having "student officers" on 2 year contract. And then no obligation to keep them on after. Pay works out not more than £7ph.
    I also know someone who had applied to it maybe a year or two ago and had recently retired from RAF police and he was told he didn't have enough relevant experience lol.


  • #6
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Last time was for two posts starting last June so they are either growing or losing people.

    It might well be a great job but it's not true policing in my opinion.

    If I remember correctly they had quite a high eyesight standard compared to PSNI. Also remember them being very vague about the salary so at least it's there right from the start.


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  • #7
    Timetravel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Last time was for two posts starting last June so they are either growing or losing people.

    It might well be a great job but it's not true policing in my opinion.

    If I remember correctly they had quite a high eyesight standard compared to PSNI. Also remember them being very vague about the salary so at least it's there right from the start.

    I’d say the same as harbour police making people pay for training if they leave within 3 years. That’s probably why they do GV after 2 years. Maybe have retention problems. That said if you guys are waiting to apply for the new PSNI campaign it’s surely worth a shot

    Ps I know you’re not waiting homer :D


  • #8
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol


  • #9
    NiK9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)


  • #10
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol



    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)


    Thanks for the info!! I would like the job but nowhere near as much as the psni! You would get far more variety in the psni. This would just be a second option "just incase"


  • #11
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)

    Nik9 just wondering would you have to be a full constable to have a firearm or would the student officer be traind to use and carry them too?


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  • #12
    NiK9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)

    Nik9 just wondering would you have to be a full constable to have a firearm or would the student officer be traind to use and carry them too?
    Honestly I don't know the whole ins and outs of it. The PSNI do train BIA constabulary for firearms. But no idea at what point in your training. The information packs don't give alot of details about training, if it's before your 2year start or during your to years.
    Also just remember if you do join just because you are "police" doesn't mean you are a full constable. BIAC are a private police force and have no jurisdiction outside of the airport. You work directly for the airport and not the home office like all other UK police forces/services. So there is no chance of ever transferring.


  • #13
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)

    Nik9 just wondering would you have to be a full constable to have a firearm or would the student officer be traind to use and carry them too?
    Honestly I don't know the whole ins and outs of it. The PSNI do train BIA constabulary for firearms. But no idea at what point in your training. The information packs don't give alot of details about training, if it's before your 2year start or during your to years.
    Also just remember if you do join just because you are "police" doesn't mean you are a full constable. BIAC are a private police force and have no jurisdiction outside of the airport. You work directly for the airport and not the home office like all other UK police forces/services. So there is no chance of ever transferring.


    Thanks! To be honest it's not sounding like the best option!! Ye would be far better off just in the psni on a whole!


  • #14
    NiK9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)

    Nik9 just wondering would you have to be a full constable to have a firearm or would the student officer be traind to use and carry them too?
    Honestly I don't know the whole ins and outs of it. The PSNI do train BIA constabulary for firearms. But no idea at what point in your training. The information packs don't give alot of details about training, if it's before your 2year start or during your to years.
    Also just remember if you do join just because you are "police" doesn't mean you are a full constable. BIAC are a private police force and have no jurisdiction outside of the airport. You work directly for the airport and not the home office like all other UK police forces/services. So there is no chance of ever transferring.


    Thanks! To be honest it's not sounding like the best option!! Ye would be far better off just in the psni on a whole!

    They are more of an armed security force. If it's something like that you'd be Interested in then go for it but the MOD Police and CNC do simlar roles but far better training and a higher wage lol. BIA pay is working out min wage.


  • #15
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    NiK9 wrote: »
    sparkylarky wrote: »
    Hi guys just seem this tonight does anybody know if you are armed in this role? Also if you are able to take your firearm home as a ppw like the psni? I wouldn't want to apply and then get sent off home with no gun and be a sitting duck! .lol

    You are armed on duty with a glock 17 same as PSNI.
    As BIA constabulary is the last private airport police force in the UK, rifles are not issued. PSNI deal with all major incidents and all specialist roles such as dogs etc.
    Off duty I'm not sure about the firearm. But even if you wernt allowed to take the issued firearm home you would be able to buy a pistol privately and get it on your firearms licence as a PPW. (As long as firearms and explo branch considered you under threat.)

    Nik9 just wondering would you have to be a full constable to have a firearm or would the student officer be traind to use and carry them too?
    Honestly I don't know the whole ins and outs of it. The PSNI do train BIA constabulary for firearms. But no idea at what point in your training. The information packs don't give alot of details about training, if it's before your 2year start or during your to years.
    Also just remember if you do join just because you are "police" doesn't mean you are a full constable. BIAC are a private police force and have no jurisdiction outside of the airport. You work directly for the airport and not the home office like all other UK police forces/services. So there is no chance of ever transferring.


    Thanks! To be honest it's not sounding like the best option!! Ye would be far better off just in the psni on a whole!

    They are more of an armed security force. If it's something like that you'd be Interested in then go for it but the MOD Police and CNC do simlar roles but far better training and a higher wage lol. BIA pay is working out min wage.

    That end of it defo interests me I would do that in a heart beat the problem is I want to do more than that as well I want to actually help people when they are in need weather that be domestic abuse, rtc, drug raid, protecting people in general everywhere, traffic stops, etc etc, you don't get that in this role unfortunately! Il do it as a back up but I will concertante on the psni one!


  • #16
    redsox101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭redsox101


    You are not armed until after you've been through GV! And it's 100% accurate to describe the job as armed security guarding.

    There is no real variety to the role and you can't proceed past the rank of Sargeant. The starting salary it's definitely suited to the 18-20s age bracket.


  • #17
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    redsox101 wrote: »
    You are not armed until after you've been through GV! And it's 100% accurate to describe the job as armed security guarding.

    There is no real variety to the role and you can't proceed past the rank of Sargeant. The starting salary it's definitely suited to the 18-20s age bracket.

    Thanks for the info!! Tbh it sounds a bit rubbish lol so really you have to wait 2 years 6 months until your really doing the job! I wonder what they be doing in that time before gv!!


  • #18
    redsox101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭redsox101


    I've something of an insight but the job should basically be advertised as an "apprentice"


  • #19
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    redsox101 wrote: »
    I've something of an insight but the job should basically be advertised as an "apprentice" as that's what you basically are until you've been through GV and you accompany a mentor when working.

    You do however get to drive the police vehicles on the airport property, wear the full uniform but have no duty belt cuffs, CS or handgun ect until after GV.

    You've come to the right place to share it mate lol. I wonder why they don't just put you through gv at the start and get you up and going properly! They are going to put people off myself included having to wait 2 years before you actually do the job! What's the recruitment process like? They give you next to no info About it!


  • #20
    redsox101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭redsox101


    The recruitment process is similar to the airport fire service.

    • Apply
    • Interview
    • Job offer
    • Medical & Drugs testing
    • Police Vetting
    • 5 year employment for airport staff pass • Appointment as student police.

    Because they are privately run by the airport it's a similar set up to the harbour police with the application process run by a HR department and the questions asked on it.

    With the Airport Fire Service within your contact if you leave within I think it's 3 years of starting you have to repay the cost of the training. The two year period with the police is prior to someone who is due to retire.

    Re the eyesight standards and colour vision that's to do with driving on and around the runway.


  • #21
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    redsox101 wrote: »
    The recruitment process is similar to the airport fire service.

    • Apply
    • Interview
    • Job offer
    • Medical & Drugs testing
    • Police Vetting
    • 5 year employment for airport staff pass • Appointment as student police.

    Because they are privately run by the airport it's a similar set up to the harbour police with the application process run by a HR department and the questions asked on it.

    With the Airport Fire Service within your contact if you leave within I think it's 3 years of starting you have to repay the cost of the training. The two year period with the police is prior to someone who is due to retire.

    Re the eyesight standards and colour vision that's to do with driving on and around the runway.

    Thanks for the that!!
    Could you clarify what you mean by 5 year employment pass? Is that like a 5 year contract or somthing?
    It sounds like it is a big commitment to make for very little in return! Your kind of stuck there for 3 years!!


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  • #22
    redsox101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭redsox101


    Staff directly working for the airport and service providers have to provide a 5 year employment history to get a security pass and all reference are then contacted.

    It's more so to do with the Airport regulators. Those links will give you a better idea.

    https://www.glasgowairport.com/media/194833/full-airside-id-pass-guidelines-feb-17.pdf

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/criminal-record-checks-in-the-aviation-sector-regulated-by-dft


  • #23
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    I see now mate thanks!!


  • #24
    Banterbus28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Same set of buildings for your entire career...


  • #25
    Stevo 344
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Stevo 344


    Hey does anyone who has applied for this, know when the short listing letters will be sent out ? And also what next stage will be ? Remember seeing something about a written assessment ?


  • #26
    NiK9
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭NiK9


    Stevo 344 wrote: »
    Hey does anyone who has applied for this, know when the short listing letters will be sent out ? And also what next stage will be ? Remember seeing something about a written assessment ?

    When I applied during last year's recruitment I had an acknowledgement letter within a week and then the next letter within 3-4weeks. But then I withdrew from the process so can't help beyond that sorry.


  • #27
    Ron_Mon
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭Ron_Mon


    Despite the discussions above regarding what this job entails, and whether you're just an 'armed security guard' - Has anyone who applied for this heard back from the airport yet?


  • #28
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Ive heard nothing


  • #29
    Banterbus28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Banterbus28


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Last time was for two posts starting last June so they are either growing or losing people.

    It might well be a great job but it's not true policing in my opinion.

    If I remember correctly they had quite a high eyesight standard compared to PSNI. Also remember them being very vague about the salary so at least it's there right from the start.


    Theres an Airport Police student in GV atm


  • #30
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Anyone heard anything more about this?


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  • #31
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    I got an email the other day inviting me for an assements centre. Did you hear anything?


  • #32
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Yeah I got the same, not sure how many days they are running it over.


  • #33
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    I don't know they never said, I can't see there being that many people applied for it tbh


  • #34
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    You never know, although I think the assessment centre math and English will put a few off, and the fact that the pay Is minimum wage.


  • #35
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Yea that's true I'm not sure even if I will accept it as I'm waiting on another job interview results coming. Is it just maths and English they do at it?


  • #36
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    If it's a normal assessment centre yes, usually your standard English and maths.
    Unfortunately I don't think I can attend anyway due to work.
    Good luck with the other job


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  • #37
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Awww right I see, I think the English will be ok but the maths is a different story! I see, tbh I've heard a lot of bad stuff about the job so I wouldn't be too concered about not getting it, if you got into the psni they would be way better.

    Thanks mate


  • #38
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Any body managed to make the assessment centre?


  • #39
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Dog8ox wrote: »
    Any body managed to make the assessment centre?


    Yea I was there not long back, were you there yourself?


  • #40
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Yes, it was definitely tight for time and different than what I thought.


  • #41
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Yea it was tight enough I just done a rather brief answer for all the questions incasee I ran out of time! The thing that worries me is wil thet be able to read my writing? Half the time I cant read it myself lol


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  • #42
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    That makes two of us lol. Many at yours, must be running it all day.


  • #43
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Lol at least im not the only one! Aye there was a right few more than I though about 30 ish having said that there was a good few empty spaces as well. Im not sure I was in at just around dinner time


  • #44
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Aye mine was lunch time, few spaces with my group as well so it's anyone's guess.
    Good luck.


  • #45
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    We were prob in the same group lol, yea anythibg could happen just try not to get too ahead of ourselves lol, thanks you too


  • #46
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Anybody hear anything on this?


  • #47
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Nope nothing at all, probably waiting till PSNI release there candidates list


  • #48
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    Take it you haven't heard anything either?


  • #49
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Dog8ox wrote: »
    Take it you haven't heard anything either?


    Nope not a thing they talked about doing interviews mid to late jan so if that timescale still applies we should be hearing soon I would have imagined


  • #50
    Dog8ox
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Dog8ox


    You should really get two weeks notice to attend an interview.
    They could be out time scale wise or we did really bad and they couldn't read our hand writing lol


  • #51
    sparkylarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭sparkylarky


    Yea we got two weeks for tge assessment centre so I would imagine this would be the same!

    Haha yea I would be put a bet on it they couldn't read the writing lol


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