Destiny General Discussion Thread

Tomorrows CoO live stream has been cancelled.

Deej wrote:

Tomorrow, we had planned to conduct the final stream prior to the launch of “Curse of Osiris” to show off some of the weapons and armor the expansion includes. Instead, we are investing all our efforts into delivering some higher priority information about Destiny 2. You’ll hear from studio leadership about their assessment of Destiny all up, they’ll talk about our goals for the game going forward, and you’ll also learn about how we’re reacting to your feedback with some game updates that will arrive in the next few weeks.

That will appear on the Bungie Blog on Wednesday.

Destiny 2 will be offline on Thursday for 6 hours from 5pm to 11pm for server maintenance.

Will be very interesting to see what Bungie say today.

Personally I don't see how they can win back a large portion of the people who have gone against them.

For a lot of people the incentive game isn't actually the problem imo, at least not in terms of loot. Sure people were hoping for a god roll eyasluna in Destiny 1, but i don't think it was the driving force behind the PVP community that kept Destiny going through much of Year 2 and Year 3. People played PvP because, for the most part, it was fun.

In order to get back to Destiny 1 'fun' can they do so without changing the weapon economy? Without moving Snipers, Fusions, shotguns to secondary again - people still won't have their one shot capability at all times in a match, and that is what has brought the team shotting meta we have now. Personally I like the weapon meta we have now, and I don't want to see them change it to the D1 loadout - i'm glad we don't have people shotgunning or sniping 100% of the match. I don't see how they could change the loadout given the game was built around this loadout.

Bringing 6vs6 back won't change things too much, imo. It will mean we can have more people and more 'bants' in the fireteam, but would we not just end up with 6 people team shotting instead for 4?

I think speeding up the Super/Grenade recharge would make a fairly big difference (If they did this I would probably tone down Pulse grenades a bit). Maybe bump damage from weapons a bit as well, so that TTK speeds up a bit, and speed up recovery - which would mean if you get the jump on a 1vs2 or position yourself well enough you can do more when outnumbered.

Two big changes for PVP i think would make a big difference and they need to bring in ASAP are Ranked and Private matches.

Ranked is a no brainer. Its already there in the background cause of Skill Based Match Making - just bring it to the frontend and give players a number to chase. An emblem for each major rank. Two easy changes and would absolutely increase people's grind in PvP.

Private matches are used by a small percentage - but the Comp scene (Farcog etc) need them, the 'sweats' teams need them - without Private matches there is no comp scene. If you bring them in you will see more comps, you will see more people competing in them on Twitch (creating some hype) and practising for them. It would increase the popularity of Destiny 2 from a spectator perspective. If they added the ability to change attributes of the match via a more customs environment it could also act as an unofficial test chamber for Destiny 2 changes - if they see a huge spike in popularity of a particular rule set they could use that as a discussion point internally.

In terms of incentive loot game, there is so much they could do. We have 8 different types of handcannons, for example - lean into that for end game activities. Why don't we have both kinetic and energy variants of the Raid weapons for example - give us more weapons. They need to make more unique armor - why are there so many reskins of the same armor set, already, in D2? They need to make the armor more visually distinct and they also need to make intrinsic perks on them that give us a reason to grind for them. The mod economy is also so very basic - to the point I don't understand it. Its such a good idea, and executed so badly. We should have mods that change weapons by more than just an increase in power. We should have mods that provide perk sets to the armor. we should have exotic mods to grind for that do special things. I think there is so much they can do but unless they were working on these things since at least D2 launched (and they should have been cause they ARE F**KING OBVIOUS things that should have been in the base game to begin with) I don't see us getting them in the proper short term.

Some things like being able to buy specific things off vendors, especially from the timed event vendors feels like an easy thing they could, and likely are (given their previous comments on Iron Banner changes) giving us - but I don't think that is one of the bigger problems/solutions to the game.

I was reading online that the stream is cancelled and maintenance is due to Bright Engrams.

I believe some countries around the world classify random loot boxes from real world money as gambling. And as minors have access to them, Bungie could be slapped with promoting underage gambling.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was all their silence and server maintenance is about.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Bright engrams is pure speculation. As of right now they are not gambling as far as I know, but a lot of regulatory bodies are taking a real look at it now.

What bungie are doing right now is legal and if there was change in the law they would be given time to make the necessary changes before anyone would come after them legally.

Curse of Osiris is out next week, along with season 2 changes - would be perfectly in keeping with past actions that bungie is doing extensive server/game prep for that.

They are considered gambling in China, but can be circumvented by having them be purc6by a premium currency as opposed to directly with real money as Destiny 2 does with silver.

Dcully wrote: »

DLC so soon after release is a piss take, the game is out 6 weeks or so on PC.
It could easily have shipped with this content but no they put it in DLC.

If your referring to WOW expansions ? lol they are years apart from eachother.

That content coming in the Destiny DLC was already there before the game released, dont be fooled into thinking otherwise.

Its been out 3 months on console, Destiny 1 had dlc drop at the same time. The content, while probably in a playable state, was not complete when Destiny 2 launched on consoles and as such is dlc content.

Confession: bright engrams don't bother me at all.

I get them fairly regularly and I generally don't care about what is in them, or what tess is selling. I've 2k bright dust to spend on her wares and I generally dont bother buying anything.

The only issue I have with the xp capping is that it was not communicated (and that is s***house behavior)