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Rugby League World Cup 2017 (27th Oct. to 2nd Dec.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    Can some explain how its decided who and how u get through to the quarter finals.not winning a game or in scotlands case losing both your opening games by 50 odd points but still have a chance to go through seems mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Can some explain how its decided who and how u get through to the quarter finals.not winning a game or in scotlands case losing both your opening games by 50 odd points but still have a chance to go through seems mad

    Yeah, an anomaly alright. They tried to weight the groups so if you were in a group with one of the usual suspects (Aus/NZ/England) you still had a chance to qualify if you lost those games. Every world cup they try something different, never seems to quite work. Ireland were unlucky in the group they ended up in this year. Ideally, as they have done before, they'd put the "big" teams in separate groups and 2 or more would go through from each group (usually meaning Aus etc plus at least 1 smaller team). The problem with that was mismatches and viewing figures were poor as a result.

    They definitely need to look again next time, particularly when Tonga are now a force.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    Yeah, an anomaly alright. They tried to weight the groups so if you were in a group with one of the usual suspects (Aus/NZ/England) you still had a chance to qualify if you lost those games. Every world cup they try something different, never seems to quite work. Ireland were unlucky in the group they ended up in this year.

    They definitely need to look again next time, particularly when Tonga are now a force.

    Thats another thing I find mad.cant think of his name but hes one on the top players in the nrl.think he has played for new Zealand before but because he wasn't name in there squad he can play for tonga.seems mad that up until 6 weeks before a world cup your happy enough to play for a national team u dont get named and then swap to play for another.and ppl think project players in union are bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Thats another thing I find mad.cant think of his name but hes one on the top players in the nrl.think he has played for new Zealand before but because he wasn't name in there squad he can play for tonga.seems mad that up until 6 weeks before a world cup your happy enough to play for a national team u dont get named and then swap to play for another.and ppl think project players in union are bad

    Players who were named in squads actually moved, not just those not selected. Several Tonga players were chosen to play for NZ and Australia but all decided to go with Tonga.

    International Rugby League is still very much a work in progress, the NRL aren't the least bit supportive (and that's where the money is). As a result you get fudges like weird world cup groups, or players barely knowing where a country is that they choose to play for (this actually isn't as bad this WC).

    The criteria for allegiance should definitely be firmed up so if you want to change country there's a qualification period. But it's all down to trying to make the game competitive for the smaller nations.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    Players who were named in squads actually moved, not just those not selected. Several Tonga players were chosen to play for NZ and Australia but all decided to go with Tonga.

    International Rugby League is still very much a work in progress, the NRL aren't the least bit supportive (and that's where the money is).

    The criteria for allegiance should definitely be firmed up so if you want to change country there's a qualification period. But it's all down to trying to make the game competitive for the smaller nations.

    Ah ok I get u like to watch league only get to watch the odd game on the bbc which is usually the challenge cup final.Ireland should look and see if they can get a team playing in England like the toronto wolfpack.I know money will probably be an issue there though.hope Ireland can do a job on wales on sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Ah ok I get u like to watch league only get to watch the odd game on the bbc which is usually the challenge cup final.Ireland should look and see if they can get a team playing in England like the toronto wolfpack.I know money will probably be an issue there though.hope Ireland can do a job on wales on sunday

    Yeah, unfortunately don't think we have a crazy millionaire willing to put in the money here, it would be fantastic though. There's talk of a New York team getting off the ground too, as well as a couple of well supported French teams.

    Fingers crossed Ireland get the result their tournament has deserved, they have been great, if they could reduce the handling errors and keep the team together they'd be a match for most countries.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Thats another thing I find mad.cant think of his name but hes one on the top players in the nrl.think he has played for new Zealand before but because he wasn't name in there squad he can play for tonga.seems mad that up until 6 weeks before a world cup your happy enough to play for a national team u dont get named and then swap to play for another.and ppl think project players in union are bad

    If you think that's bad, in the Rugby Union World Cup a good many years ago a guy played for Morocco in the Africa qualifiers and when they failed to qualify he ended up playing for France in the finals the same year.
    The qualification rules have become far too loose in most sports. If the trend continues regional and national allegiances will become meaningless and gates will suffer. Remember in school how two captains picked two teams? Who cares whether Paddy's team or Freddie's team wins? Or maybe it will be AIB v. Diageo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Incredible game between New Zealand and Tonga, especially the second half. A great advert for the game.

    The match between NZ and Fiji looks like it could be another cracker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Good way for Ireland to finish the tournament, a easy enough win over Wales, a successful World Cup for them despite missing out on quarter finals (because of structure of the wc).

    England comfortable against France so far.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    Ya nice win pretty silly that a it looks like Lebanon who won one group game will go through to quarter s and ireland who won two wont.very odd way the set out who goes through


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    England have to face PNG now, though not in Port Moresby, so atmosphere hopefully won't be as big a factor. Then probably Tonga, so it's a tough route if they want to get to the final. I'd actually fancy Tonga to spring another upset against England, it'll be interesting to see the odds (presuming they both get to semis)

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭charkee


    tornanount organisers wanted the island teams in the qfs.job done.not interested in ireland ,wales and scotland...

    sadly no interest in league in ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Good way to finish the tournament for Ireland. It's been a positive tournament overall and hopefully it will have made some new fans of the game over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    charkee wrote: »

    sadly no interest in league in ireland

    Pretty accurate unfortunately, there are people who enjoy the game here, but I agree, interest is limited to say the least. It's a shame because it's a really accessible sport with simple rules to follow.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    IMG_20171114_092122.jpg

    Pretty good picture.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭charkee


    Lebanon qualify on 3 pts??

    union has stole a lot of leagues clothes in recent years

    I prefer league ,but its like talking to the wall with an Irish rugby union fan .

    one thing that puzzled me about league is the team that scores the try gets the ball back from ko. On a one sided game ,the losing team have no chance to get going.

    I recall super league reversed the ko receiver for a season years ago ,but went back to the traditional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    charkee wrote: »
    Lebanon qualify on 3 pts??

    union has stole a lot of leagues clothes in recent years

    I prefer league ,but its like talking to the wall with an Irish rugby union fan .

    one thing that puzzled me about league is the team that scores the try gets the ball back from ko. On a one sided game ,the losing team have no chance to get going.

    I recall super league reversed the ko receiver for a season years ago ,but went back to the traditional.

    Some people are dismissive of Rugby League here, same in large part's of the UK too though, think expansion is helping, and spreading the word about the game. Maybe people will be persuaded!

    Lebanon had Australia, England and France. So, really it came to down to their game with France.

    I think there's a case for not getting the ball back after penalty or drop goal, it'd encourage people to go for the try even more.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Australia struggling in their quarter final then. Scoreline is I'm sure, as everyone would have predicted.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    Game on in Christchurch 22-16 ht tonga , Lebanon playing v well, great contest


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    Incredible 2nd half from Lebanon , they won't go away exciting finish 24-22 Tonga with a little over 10 to play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    seanhynes wrote: »
    Incredible 2nd half from Lebanon , they won't go away exciting finish 24-22 Tonga with a little over 10 to play

    Wow, so much closer than I thought it'd be, another fantastic game, and Lebanon were terrific. Huge scare for Tonga.

    It would be great if Fiji could give New Zealand a meaningful contest too now.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    The Kiwis can't complete a set. Fiji not capitalising though. They have dangerous runners but their interplay and passing is so bad it defies belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    corny wrote: »
    The Kiwis can't complete a set. Fiji not capitalising though. They have dangerous runners but their interplay and passing is so bad it defies belief.

    Shocking how far the Kiwis have fallen, it's like watching the Warriors in NRL. Ireland would have given both these a game on current display.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Shocking how far the Kiwis have fallen, it's like watching the Warriors in NRL. Ireland would have given both these a game on current display.

    Yeah true. There's the same sort of malaise you see with the Warriors. Hard to put your finger on but they look like they're just going through the motions in games. They're being knocked back in the collisions in this game and it doesn't seem to bother them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    corny wrote: »
    Yeah true. There's the same sort of malaise you see with the Warriors. Hard to put your finger on but they look like they're just going through the motions in games. They're being knocked back in the collisions in this game and it doesn't seem to bother them.

    Going through the motions is exactly it.
    Johnson is like the poster boy for that attitude.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Going through the motions is exactly it.
    Johnson is like the poster boy for that attitude.

    You know whats going to happen now....he's gonna beat 6 players, running the full length of the field and score the winner.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    corny wrote: »
    You know whats going to happen now....he's gonna beat 6 players, running the full length of the field and score the winner.:D

    Haha yeah probably. I'm normally proven completely wrong!

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Poor officiating again today.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Hayne has been dreadful but that was a lovely kick. The NZ'ers look dangerous still but they just can't hang onto the ball long enough to build pressure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Kiwis got what they deserved. Nothing.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Fair play to Fiji. Their forwards were heroic to a man.

    They'll be nilled by Australia though because their halves are terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Fair play to Lebanon as I thought Tonga would win that pretty solidly. I had a feeling the other game would be close but fancied NZ to edge it.

    Will England reach the semi-finals? Bookies seem to make them heavy favourites over PNG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Fair play to Lebanon as I thought Tonga would win that pretty solidly. I had a feeling the other game would be close but fancied NZ to edge it.

    Will England reach the semi-finals? Bookies seem to make them heavy favourites over PNG.

    Should beat PNG quite comfortably especially as it's not in Port Moresby, and be slight favourites against Tonga.

    Saying that NZ have shown twice bookies can be way off.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    So far so good for England.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Sam Burgess is rusty, loads of errors start off this half.

    So many errors from the whole team. Tonga will beat them if the error count is same next game (presuming they get there)

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Job done, England must improve or Tonga will turn them over. So much talent in the England team, they just have to put it together.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Definitely areas for England to improve. The Tonga game will be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Early reminder
    Australia v Fiji is on Friday at 0900.
    England v Tonga is on Saturday at (gulp) 0430.

    I'm going to miss the first semi final because of work (come on Fiji!) so that'll have to be a record job, but intend to get up at moron o'clock on Saturday to watch England, Tonga could easily beat them if they have as many errors as they did against PNG.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Australia 54 - 6 Fiji. Meh, don't think I'll bother watching.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I caught the highlights. Six tries for Valentine Holmes! I expected Australia to win but I didn't think it would be that emphatic. Hopefully England's game with Tonga will be more competitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I caught the highlights. Six tries for Valentine Holmes! I expected Australia to win but I didn't think it would be that emphatic. Hopefully England's game with Tonga will be more competitive.

    It definitely will be competitive, could go either way and atmosphere should be something else. Doubting I'll be awake for it now though!

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Good game so far. Tonga getting right back in it now.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    12 nil to England at half time.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    What a finish

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Fukcin hell, ridiculous end, England very lucky but I think that's a knock on at the end in the NRL every week, so fair enough he called same on the field. One of Tonga tries was from a forward pass anyway, so leveling it out or some such crap :pac:

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Incredible finish. I expected an England rout but was on the edge of my seat by the end. It was a great advert for the game. You have to hand it to the Tonga fans for the amazing atmosphere. As Chapman said in the BBC studio afterwards, if that was a football match the fans would have been screaming abuse at the ref yet the fans there were singing hymns.

    Can't see England stopping Australia but I hope they can make a game of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Bump early, bump often.

    World Cup final tomorrow, kick off is 0900. Live on BBC One or Eir Sports 2. (So you can choose English or Australian commentary/coverage)

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Last reminder of the day.

    World Cup final tomorrow.
    Australia v England, kick off is 0900 in Brisbane. Live on BBC One or Eir Sports 2. (So you can choose English or Australian commentary/coverage).

    If you like to see the underdog do well cheer for the men in white, or if you like to see England lose whatever the sport, you can watch the probable Aussie victory!

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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