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Will Leo be the shortest serving taoiseach in history?

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  • #152
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    I do think this is a valid reason for an election.

    When the state ruin an honest man's life for almost a decade, lessons need to be learned. There is no evidence of any lessons learned yet.

    I heard today there would be no sanction for the 1,500,000 fake breath tests. The corruption within the Gardaí goes on unpunished.


  • #153
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    Give sf a chance.
    Their time is coming, I'm no fan but only a fool would deny the inevitable.
    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    They care so much about the gardai they resort to murdering them.

    When did SF murder members of AGS?


  • #154
    Mutant z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Has Leo the balls to sack her if he is any kind of leader he would.


  • #155
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,903 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Why not just jettison Fitzgerald. Easiest option for all Concerned and I think would show some backbone to the public.

    The average person is looking for accountability.

    Not cover ups


  • #156
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    I think people should again read the statement from the McCabes earlier this year. I don't know how they remained so strong.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/maurice-and-lorraine-mccabe-statement-truth-today--justice-can-follow-776969.html

    Here is a small section
    We have endured eight years of great suffering, private nightmare, public defamation, and state vilification arising solely out from the determination of Maurice to ensure that the Garda Siochana adheres to decent and appropriate standards of policing in its dealings with the Irish people.

    Our personal lives and our family life, and the lives of our five children, have been systematically attacked in a number of ways by agencies of the Irish state and by people working for the state in those agencies.

    These events have, one way or another, given rise to a long series of state investigations, ranging from internal Garda investigations (disciplinary and administrative), the Fennelly Commission, the O'Higgins Commission, several GCOC investigations (some of them targeted indirectly at Maurice), and investigations within HSE and Tusla (some of them targeted at both of us and some of them concerning what those agencies have done to us) and the reports of Sean Guerin SC and former Judge larfhlaith O'Neill. All of these have taken place in private.

    We have also been the subject of a long and sustained campaign to destroy our characters in the eyes of the public, and public representatives and in the eyes of the media.

    Today, we have heard one Minister, Simon Harris, state that we are entitled to "truth and justice".

    We wish to make it clear that we are definitely not agreeable to that entitlement being wholly postponed so that another Commission of Inquiry can conduct a secret investigation behind closed doors and make a report, into which we have no input as of right, in nine or eighteen months' time.

    We are entitled to the truth today- justice can follow in its wake.


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  • #157
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Jawgap wrote:
    Let's face it SF have never been consistent in support of An Garda Siochana, and that's being kind about their general attitude towards the force over a number of decades......

    Lack of support is not the same as wheeliebin's claim that SF murdered Garda.


  • #158
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Lack of support is not the same as wheeliebin's claim that SF murdered Garda.

    Sf/pira no difference to me.

    You're not fooling anybody trying to bend the truth.


  • #159
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    So what then?


    Don't know dear boy, I won't be in a position to form a government so pointless question to pose to me.


  • #160
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Frances Fitzgerald is not a good minister, as minister for children they had the children's referendum, she inspired 70% of the electorate to stay at home and it barely passed. The people who voted like me, just voted as it is something I always do, but she just does a bad job.
    Time for her to do the right thing and resign as she is just not competent.


  • #161
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Id love a general election.

    Give sf a chance.

    They care so much about the gardai they resort to murdering them.

    Yeah maybe if the get in gardai can have a fresh start and look into swept under the rug murder cases like Séamus Ludlow rather than stitching innocent men up to look like child abusers as they did under FF/FG's watch.


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  • #162
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Wheeliebin30 wrote:
    You're not fooling anybody trying to bend the truth.


    Bending the truth? It's you dear boy making baseless and false claims or lies choose you own description of what you have said.


  • #163
    BillyBobBS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Ah heyor....

    I'll take that as a no.


  • #164
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,514 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Sf/pira no difference to me.

    You're not fooling anybody trying to bend the truth.

    Nobody is trying to fool you. Everyone knows that former members of the IRA are in SF.

    Do you think this is breaking news?


  • #165
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Bending the truth? It's you dear boy making baseless and false claims or lies choose you own description of what you have said.

    Sf/pira have killed gardai.

    Are you denying this?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jerry_McCabe


  • #166
    BillyBobBS
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Sf/pira no difference to me.

    You're not fooling anybody trying to bend the truth.

    FG/Blueshirts no difference to me.


  • #167
    George Sunsnow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭George Sunsnow


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Simon Harris frantically coaching Frances and Murphy red in the face with anger because he couldn't land a punch were two abiding images today.

    The gloss is coming off Leo's government very quickly.

    There'll be no election IMO. The way this is all unravelling Leo won't risk it.
    Firstly I'm impressed you ever thought there was a gloss on this government at any time but In all fairness Gerry could have done with an earpiece many is the time on the media
    I personally think Leo is not one bit afraid of an election and that's probably what he's telling his PP
    The spin on this election is easy it will have been triggered by SF

    That seems a miscalculation because they probably expect Leo to blink by the Tánaiste stepping down
    If she doesn't,SF have an open goal as the primary precipitator of the unnecessary election and worse one before Mary Lou is crowned
    That would be their scalping plan back firing should that be how it pans out


  • #168
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    FG/Blueshirts no difference to me.

    You always swore you had no political allegiance??


  • #169
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,258 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    BillyBobBS wrote: »
    You've evidence of this right.

    Call Ferris & Co Taxi services, for all your prison collection needs.

    2014-12-27_opi_5719424_I1.JPG


  • #170
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Sf/pira have killed gardai.

    Are you denying this?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jerry_McCabe

    You must be a FG supporter given you are insensitively trying to create a smokescreen using Jerry McCabe.

    I actually think you will encourage people to vote SF with your "but look over there!" posts. It's quite a childish ploy.

    Can I ask, what do you think of FG's handling of Sgt Maurice McCabe? Have you ever read his statement?


  • #171
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Varadkar isn't going to scrafice his career for her?


    He'll throw her under the bus to save himself?


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  • #172
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Nettle Soup wrote: »
    You must be a FG supporter given you are insensitively trying to create a smokescreen using Jerry McCabe.

    I actually think you will encourage people to vote SF with your "but look over there!" posts.

    Can I ask, what do you think of FG's handling of Sgt Maurice McCabe?

    Just can see pure hypocrisy when it smacks you in the face.


  • #173
    Mutant z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    tomwaterford wrote: »
    Varadkar isn't going to scrafice his career for her?


    He'll throw her under the bus to save himself?

    If he has any sense that's exactly what he will do.


  • #174
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,193 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Are we now going to start competing with the Brits for stupidity by shooting ourselves in the foot at possibly the most crucial time of the Brexit negotiations? Sinn Fein should be looking at the bigger picture here given how important a phase we are now in. What we need from our politicians now is thinking on a global scale and not local opportunism that weakens our hand abroad.

    By all means, store the gripe and bring it back when the time allows. The Tory newspapers and backers must be delighted to see this.


  • #175
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Just can see pure hypocrisy when it smacks you in the face.

    Do you answer questions or deflect?

    Can I ask, what do you think of FG's handling of Sgt Maurice McCabe? Have you ever read his statement?

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/maurice-and-lorraine-mccabe-statement-truth-today--justice-can-follow-776969.html


  • #176
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Call Ferris & Co Taxi services, for all your prison collection needs.

    2014-12-27_opi_5719424_I1.JPG
    Nothing to see here folks.

    SF stand for justice for an garda.

    Ah stop would ya:)


  • #177
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,514 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    George Sunsnow wrote: »
    Firstly I'm impressed you ever thought there was a gloss on this government at any time but In all fairness Gerry could have done with an earpiece many is the time on the media
    I personally think Leo is not one bit afraid of an election and that's probably what he's telling his PP
    The spin on this election is easy it will have been triggered by SF

    That seems a miscalculation because they probably expect Leo to blink by the Tánaiste stepping down
    If she doesn't,SF have an open goal as the primary precipitator of the unnecessary election and worse one before Mary Lou is crowned
    That would be their scalping plan back firing should that be how it pans out

    FF are tripping over themselves to get a motion down first. Why? So they can claim the high ground.

    I think the electorate will know exactly why the gov falls, if it does. Rank hypocrisy and the cover up of an attempt to destroy one man.
    Missing transcripts now, what more will tumble out during a campaign?

    Leo will need the dazzle socks methinks.


  • #178
    BillyBobBS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    You always swore you had no political allegiance??

    Point out where i said i have.

    I'm just calling you out on the nonsense.


  • #179
    Galway K9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    littelady wrote: »
    I would personally vote Leo for Taoiseach again & again I think he is doing great work.

    This mentality is what's wrong with the country.


  • #180
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Nettle Soup wrote: »
    Do you answer questions or deflect?

    Can I ask, what do you think of FG's handling of Sgt Maurice McCabe? Have you ever read his statement?

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/maurice-and-lorraine-mccabe-statement-truth-today--justice-can-follow-776969.html

    I think they handled it as best possible.

    It's a mess which goes a lot deeper than a few members of fg.


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  • #181
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Sf/pira have killed gardai.

    Are you denying this?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jerry_McCabe

    The current tanaiste and fine gael high ranking member is/was involved in a scheme to portray a garda whistleblower as a child abusers.your deflection is weak at best.


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