Al Porter Scandal

deco nate · 19-11-2017 08:25PM

Sure he can always get a job in a sausage making factory

Cienciano · 19-11-2017 08:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, they're the problem here alright

Never said they were.

holyhead · 19-11-2017 08:34PM

His statement that he released does him no favours. He attempts to bat away allegations of sexually inappropriate behaviour by passing it off as him being flamboyant and fun. I'm sure his 'victims' don't see it that way. As his statement reads I take it he is admitting he did act inappropriately. Time will tell.

Stheno · 19-11-2017 08:37PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

It is fairly extreme action to have to take when you are that young. But, if you are in a high profile position and you rely on the public opinion to earn your crust, then you behave in a way that is likely to damage that public opinion, you have to kind of expect that.

You've kinda made my point there the behaviour is not proven it is alleged and Porter now finds himself unemployed and likely unemployable full stop for the near future in any capacity in ireland at least.

Unless this goes to court and he finds himself incarcerated, how do you suggest he will support himself? He was most likely self employed so not entitled to social welfare and at 24 it's unlikely he's saved a huge amount to help him disappear for a few years

FizzleSticks · 19-11-2017 08:43PM

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19-11-2017 08:44PM

The Aer Lingus plane wan-ker from Cork - Niall Prendeville was able to resume his radio DJ career wasn't he.
Not the same circumstances at all but still...

PARlance · 19-11-2017 08:46PM

PARlance wrote: »

List of things I can't believe about Al Porter:

1. He has a radio show
2. He has a TV show
3. He is 24

Updated

1. He had a radio show
2. He had a TV show
3. He is 24
4. He spent decades in the entertainment industry

Stheno · 19-11-2017 08:46PM

FizzleSticks wrote: »

Anyone whose been behind the scenes on the comedy scene knows this kind of carry on is rampant but a lot of people are acting like this is highly unlikely.

I don't think so you, my ohs daughter works in the theatre/gigs industry and was not at all surprised at this or the Colgan allegations.

My main gripe is the lack of due process etc

splinter65 · 19-11-2017 08:47PM

FizzleSticks wrote: »

Anyone whose been behind the scenes on the comedy scene knows this kind of carry on is rampant but a lot of people are acting like this is highly unlikely.

Funny, I would have ASSUMED that this kind of carry on , both gay and straight, was rampant.

theoneeyedman · 19-11-2017 08:48PM

PARlance wrote: »

List of things I can't believe about Al Porter:

1. He has a radio show
2. He has a TV show
3. He is 24

Another thing....

People refer to him as a comedian... WTF?

Venom · 19-11-2017 08:48PM

Stheno wrote: »

You've kinda made my point there the behaviour is not proven it is alleged and Porter now finds himself unemployed and likely unemployable full stop for the near future in any capacity in ireland at least.

Why would he apologize for this "alleged" behavior if he hadn't done anything wrong?

Deank · 19-11-2017 08:48PM

:pac:

Bananaleaf · 19-11-2017 08:49PM

Stheno wrote: »

You've kinda made my point there the behaviour is not proven it is alleged and Porter now finds himself unemployed and likely unemployable full stop for the near future in any capacity in ireland at least.

Unless this goes to court and he finds himself incarcerated, how do you suggest he will support himself? He was most likely self employed so not entitled to social welfare and at 24 it's unlikely he's saved a huge amount to help him disappear for a few years

Genuine question - how is he not entitled to social welfare because he was self-employed? There are people in the country who haven't been in any way employed and they are still 'entitled' to it.

I know they don't have pension rights, but are you sure they're not entitled to social welfare?

Also, like I said, I don't know him at all, so I've no idea whether he would have money put away, so fair enough I don't know where he will find the money to hole himself away for a few years, but what are you suggesting will happen to him if you don't think a job or social welfare are a possibility and if he doesn't go to jail (or even if he does, upon his release)?

Stheno · 19-11-2017 08:50PM

Venom wrote: »

Why would he apologize for this "alleged" behavior if he hadn't done anything wrong?

Did you read his apology? He basically said that he didn't realise people were hurt/offended and he never meant there to be hurt or offense?

vicwatson · 19-11-2017 08:50PM

No self employed pay a slightly less prsi contribution hence there be no “entitlement”

castletownman · 19-11-2017 08:52PM

I heard someone mention potentially mental issues as a root cause for his alleged actions.

Well that's literally the very same as Trump blaming mental illness when someone (usually a white American) commits a mass shooting over in America. It completely deflects from the issue at hand, and actually does a dis-service to the many people suffering with mental illness and facing up to it every day as best as they can.

As for the statement he released, I find it fairly pathetic. Basically trying to equate flamboyant behaviour with some sort of get-out-of-jail-free card when something inappropriate is alleged. I generally find overly camp gay men (the kind who regard their sexuality as the only meaningful aspect of their life) as a bit off-putting, but Porter's comic stylings really take the biscuit. At least that lecherous act will be off the airwaves now.

20Cent · 19-11-2017 08:52PM

Stheno wrote: »

You've kinda made my point there the behaviour is not proven it is alleged and Porter now finds himself unemployed and likely unemployable full stop for the near future in any capacity in ireland at least.

Unless this goes to court and he finds himself incarcerated, how do you suggest he will support himself? He was most likely self employed so not entitled to social welfare and at 24 it's unlikely he's saved a huge amount to help him disappear for a few years

Porter has admitted to it in his statement.

Bananaleaf · 19-11-2017 08:54PM

vicwatson wrote: »

No self employed pay a slightly less prsi contribution hence there be no “entitlement”

But those who pay no PRSI contribution and never have are? Well, I'm more shocked at that than I am at the allegations.

Anyway - yes he said he apologised if his behaviour hurt people, but to have meant this, he also had to be admitting to the behaviour

Stheno · 19-11-2017 08:54PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Genuine question - how is he not entitled to social welfare because he was self-employed? There are people in the country who haven't been in any way employed and they are still 'entitled' to it.

I know they don't have pension rights, but are you sure they're not entitled to social welfare?

Also, like I said, I don't know him at all, so I've no idea whether he would have money put away, so fair enough I don't know where he will find the money to hole himself away for a few years, but what are you suggesting will happen to him if you don't think a job or social welfare are a possibility and if he doesn't go to jail (or even if he does, upon his release)?

S3lf employed people only pay 4% prsi.Normal paye workers pay that plus their employers pay an extra 10.5%. Self employed prsi mainly funds their state pension ( I'm self employed btw)

He could apply for job seekers allowance but that is means tested. He does not qualify for job seekers benefit if self employed.

As he also resigned there would potentially be a nine week cut off period before he could get jsa

Venom · 19-11-2017 08:57PM

Stheno wrote: »

Did you read his apology? He basically said that he didn't realise people were hurt/offended and he never meant there to be hurt or offense?

Are you and he for fcuking real? He didn't think walking up to random strangers and grabbing their dicks in public, would cause offense or make them feel uncomfortable? He actually needed to have it pointed out this wasn't acceptable behavior!

Talk about needing to see

Stheno · 19-11-2017 08:58PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

But those who pay no PRSI contribution and never have are? Well, I'm more shocked at that than I am at the allegations.

Anyway - yes he said he apologised if his behaviour hurt people, but to have meant this, he also had to be admitting to the behaviour

Yes they are on means tested jsa no means equals full payment same as someone on jsb

As Al is under 25 if he applied for jsa and had no means hed get 100e per week

19-11-2017 08:59PM

[QUOTE=castletownman;105315117I generally find overly camp gay men (the kind who regard their sexuality as the only meaningful aspect of their life) as a bit off-putting, but Porter's comic stylings really take the biscuit. At least that lecherous act will be off the airwaves now.[/QUOTE]

It's like with his stupid, tacky act he was purposely trying to reinforce the old stereotype of gay men as desperate, mickey-obsessed people who were waiting to pounce on anyone given half the chance, straight men included. See for example his appearance on the horrible Late Late Show Valentines' special, which was also trying to be"flamboyant and outrageous" and will hopefully now be done away with now.

Stheno · 19-11-2017 09:00PM

Venom wrote: »

Are you and he for fcuking real? He didn't think walking up to random strangers and grabbing their dicks in public, would cause offense or make them feel uncomfortable?

Talk about needing to see

That's what I said he said. To me it appears he saw no harm in what he did which I don't agree with, same as I don't agree with this court of social media nonsense

Dev84 · 19-11-2017 09:02PM

Lets not forget that the lad is 24 and could easily be reading this page. As bad as his alleged actions are he didnt rape or kill anyone.

Anyone know if any of the victims have gone to the police?

retalivity · 19-11-2017 09:04PM

Lol have to laugh at the weird direction this thread has taken, discussing porter's welfare entitlements!

Ash.J.Williams · 19-11-2017 09:04PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Genuine question - how is he not entitled to social welfare because he was self-employed? There are people in the country who haven't been in any way employed and they are still 'entitled' to it.

I know they don't have pension rights, but are you sure they're not entitled to social welfare?

Also, like I said, I don't know him at all, so I've no idea whether he would have money put away, so fair enough I don't know where he will find the money to hole himself away for a few years, but what are you suggesting will happen to him if you don't think a job or social welfare are a possibility and if he doesn't go to jail (or even if he does, upon his release)?

Self employed get job seekers

glenfieldman · 19-11-2017 09:06PM

No comments on the Journal and those arsehole that were all innocent until proven are very silent

Vladimir Poontang · 19-11-2017 09:08PM

Imagine the difference if these allegations were against George Hook or Kevin Myers?

A lot of hypocrisy and double standards being exposed here.

Ash.J.Williams · 19-11-2017 09:08PM

Dev84 wrote: »

Lets not forget that the lad is 24 and could easily be reading this page. As bad as his alleged actions are he didnt rape or kill anyone.

Anyone know if any of the victims have gone to the police?

He's a ball grabber and ass pincher... Are there historical cases we could look at? I'd say it would be hard enough to get him punished.. By law I mean... Obviously the Internet has murdered him

Dev84 · 19-11-2017 09:09PM

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

Imagine the difference if these allegations were against George Hook or Kevin Myers?

A lot of hypocrisy and double standards being exposed here.

Or joe bloggs from across the road.

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