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Saorview Connect

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  • #1322
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Looking at the saorview remote control video I don't see mention of a recall button. I hope the back button acts as this function.

    It says on the manual that you can link up your tv to the remote but will only control power on and volume. No hdmi function.


  • #1323
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Will Saorview Connect work something that is similar to Freeview Play & Freeview in the UK that will only include all of the Irish catch up services?

    Will Saorview Connect be able to work in tandem with Saorview or will people have to be used to one service or the other when watching Irish channels via an aerial?

    'Via an aerial' isn't 'connected' i.e. internet, so I'm not really sure what you're on about here.

    It's just different delivery methods for the same content, no need to work 'in tandem'.


  • #1324
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    dublinman1990 wrote: »
    Will Saorview Connect act as a complimentary service or a compulsory one which means that consumers will have to replace all Saorview equipment in their homes?

    Simply, Saorview continues as it is and will do so for many years to come.

    Connect is an added service for additional features, it is not required to view the basic Saorview channels as we have done for the last 6 years. The Connect receiver will continue to operate as a basic Saorview receiver for those without a broadband connection to the house and vice versa, a non-Connect Saorview receiver will continue to operate as before.

    Connect is based on the HbbTV standard - hybrid broadcast broadband - which allows both services to combine seamlessly. This means additional features via broadband may be accessible while watching a Saorview channel via the aerial such as programme information, red button, advertising etc.

    This will eventually replace OTA MHEG-5 text, we may see additional IPTV channels via Connect e.g. all the Oireachtas channels could be available this way as was hinted at previously.


  • #1325
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    More_products_2018.png

    So a receiver with an integrated HDD isn't even planned for next year, madness.


  • #1326
    galtee boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    The Cush wrote: »
    More_products_2018.png

    So a receiver with an integrated HDD isn't even planned for next year, madness.

    Ah Jaysus Cush, you want a proper pvr? Don't be silly, they haven't been invented yet, it's 1997, not 2017!!!


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  • #1327
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    Does the sat part support diseqc


  • #1328
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Did this launch really happen yesterday?

    Had look at their Facebook and Twitter pages and couldn't find a single post announcing it. Were they worried about the rush to the shops for limited supplies or just a bit embarrassed?


  • #1329
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Hibrasil


    The Cush wrote: »

    Had look at their Facebook and Twitter pages and couldn't find a single post announcing it.

    Why are Saorview on Facebook or Twitter at all....:o:o:o:o


  • #1330
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,582 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    From the DID site...
    Connect a Saorview Connect box to an aerial and you're done.

    Well and truly :D


  • #1331
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Hibrasil


    Gerry Wicklow wrote: »
    From the DID site...


    Well and truly :D

    Done.....better than any turkey will be on Christmas day:D:D:D


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  • #1332
    risteardo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭risteardo


    So I have €199.99 burning a hole in my pocket that I was planning to spend on Saorview Connect. I was really hoping that it would deliver, I was wishing them well. But I'm now NOT gonna spend that cash on a Saorview Connect box that's only worth about 80 quid, going by the functionality offered. It's a real shame.

    So what should I spend the money on instead, if I want a good quality Saorview/Freeview combo box with integrated PVR? I'm sure I'm not the only person wondering this right now....


  • #1333
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,120 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    An Enigma2 based combo receiver if you don't mind a bit of tinkering to set it up.


  • #1334
    risteardo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭risteardo


    JDxtra wrote: »
    An Enigma2 based combo receiver if you don't mind a bit of tinkering to set it up.

    I'll take a look at the Enigma 2, cheers! It's so frustrating to have waited so long for this box, only to find that it's overpriced and under functional :(


  • #1335
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    risteardo wrote: »
    I'll take a look at the Enigma 2, cheers! It's so frustrating to have waited so long for this box, only to find that it's overpriced and under functional :(

    Best Value right now for 3 tuner box. ie 2 Satellite, 1 Saorview is the Edision OS Mega Triple Tuner

    Basic cost £159. Use parcelmotel and the postage cost is 3.95. (you can obviously add a hard disk yourself or buy one from WOS)

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers/edision/edision-os-mega-osmega


  • #1336
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,950 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I fail to understand why there are not two DVB-T/2 tuners in those STBs as well as the two Satellite tuners.
    Do they not expect people to want to be able to record one terrestrial channel while watching another?

    :confused:


  • #1337
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I fail to understand why there are not two DVB-T/2 tuners in those STBs as well as the two Satellite tuners.
    Do they not expect people to want to be able to record one terrestrial channel while watching another?

    :confused:

    Maybe the saorview connect box isn't so overpriced at all. Afterall it will eventually allow one to record a terrestrial/sat channel while viewing any other. The Enigma boxes won't offer any rollback feature either.


  • #1338
    gkp1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭gkp1


    STB. wrote: »
    Best Value right now for 3 tuner box. ie 2 Satellite, 1 Saorview is the Edision OS Mega Triple Tuner

    Basic cost £159. Use parcelmotel and the postage cost is 3.95. (you can obviously add a hard disk yourself or buy one from WOS)

    https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers/edision/edision-os-mega-osmega

    How does this compare to the Formuler? https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers/formuler_/formuler_f1

    I am in the same position, waited to see if Saorview Connect would deliver :(


  • #1339
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I fail to understand why there are not two DVB-T/2 tuners in those STBs as well as the two Satellite tuners.
    Do they not expect people to want to be able to record one terrestrial channel while watching another?

    :confused:

    My understanding is that there are two tuners in the Connect box. Each one can be configured to be any of: DVB- T1; DVB-T2; DVB-S1; DVB-S2; DVB-C1; DVB-C2. Each tuner is configured in software and so one tuner is configured for viewing and one for recording. Presumably, it should be possible to record two channels while watching a recording - assuming enough horsepower.

    That is my understanding but I might be wrong. The single terrestrial input is because that can be shared internally, but the satellite inputs cannot be. We will find out when the recording feature is released.


  • #1340
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    My understanding is that there are two tuners in the Connect box. Each one can be configured to be any of: DVB- T1; DVB-T2; DVB-S1; DVB-S2; DVB-C1; DVB-C2. Each tuner is configured in software and so one tuner is configured for viewing and one for recording. Presumably, it should be possible to record two channels while watching a recording - assuming enough horsepower.

    That is my understanding but I might be wrong. The single terrestrial input is because that can be shared internally, but the satellite inputs cannot be. We will find out when the recording feature is released.

    This is correct based on the information provided, but for now the second tuner is disabled until the recording feature is enabled.

    We know STB wants to get a look inside the box to see the workings.


  • #1341
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,013 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    My understanding is that there are two tuners in the Connect box. Each one can be configured to be any of: DVB- T1; DVB-T2; DVB-S1; DVB-S2; DVB-C1; DVB-C2. Each tuner is configured in software and so one tuner is configured for viewing and one for recording. Presumably, it should be possible to record two channels while watching a recording - assuming enough horsepower.

    That is my understanding but I might be wrong. The single terrestrial input is because that can be shared internally, but the satellite inputs cannot be. We will find out when the recording feature is released.

    Johnboy1951 was talking about the Edison box mentioned above.


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  • #1342
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    gkp1 wrote: »
    How does this compare to the Formuler? https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial/digital-receivers/formuler_/formuler_f1

    I am in the same position, waited to see if Saorview Connect would deliver :(

    Its an absolute steal for £89 and way better value than the edision, which I would have considered one of the more appropriately priced triple tuners.

    Fantastic spot gkp1. Esata drive plugs inback rather than internal from what I can see. Also takes a SD flash card in the front (thats a first)
    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I fail to understand why there are not two DVB-T/2 tuners in those STBs as well as the two Satellite tuners.
    Do they not expect people to want to be able to record one terrestrial channel while watching another?

    Most triple tuners have a 2 sat, 1 terrestrial tuner. In the case of the E2 boxes, the problematic issue with recording one saorview channel whilst watching another only arises where the other saorview channel is on the other mux. You still have the ability to watch other channels on the same Saorview mux or either of the 2 satellite inputs. How often is such an ocassion likely to arise ? We are led to believe that the Saorview connect box has split the single dvb-t input internally. Has that been confirmed yet ? The lad from EKT legged it when the questions started getting difficult.

    Compare the E2 box to The Saorview Connect Box.

    E2

    7 Day EPG on Satellite and Saorview
    Combined EPG
    Recording enabled
    2 Satellite Tuners Enabled.
    Abiility to use autobouquets (so channels are replaced IF channels move frequency)
    Card slots for EU sub packs.
    Half the price (in the case of the Formuler F1 box linked above).

    The Saorview Connect box has none of this. It does have a very nice IP playback of RTE programmes though. Pros and Cons. Theres a lot of cons with the Connect Box.


  • #1343
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,950 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    STB. wrote: »
    Most triple tuners have a 2 sat, 1 terrestrial tuner. In the case of the E2 boxes, the problematic issue with recording one saorview channel whilst watching another only arises where the other saorview channel is on the other mux.

    The E2 boxes are not made for Saorview only and there are multiple muxes on Freeview (up to 7 I understand).
    The single DVB-T/2 extra tuner for the Formuler F1 is only £10 ...... if a dual tuner was another £10 it would be worth it even for Saorview.

    There have been many occasions where there were two programmes I wanted to see on different muxes on Saorview. Thankfully I have the facility to record both muxes.

    For the sake of a few pounds it is well worth having the second DVB-T/2 tuner.


  • #1344
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    The E2 boxes are not made for Saorview only and there are multiple muxes on Freeview (up to 7 I understand).
    The single DVB-T/2 extra tuner for the Formuler F1 is only £10 ...... if a dual tuner was another £10 it would be worth it even for Saorview.

    There have been many occasions where there were two programmes I wanted to see on different muxes on Saorview. Thankfully I have the facility to record both muxes.

    For the sake of a few pounds it is well worth having the second DVB-T/2 tuner.

    Forget Saorview and Freeview. The specs are made for well established broadcast standards. The boxes are mass produced for EU markets. There is nothing strange in our spec.

    The E2 box linked has only 3 inputs so there are limited configurations. Infact in the triple tuner box, there would be no limitation to add an additional USB DVB-T tuner so you'd then have 2 of each tuner. AND full functionality,

    There are plenty of E2 boxes that have more than 3 set/puggable tuners. The one thats discussed is competively priced and meets the basic need of the user moving from Sky.

    The question was are Saorview Connect boxes overpriced. Yes. Most definitely.

    The second question is are there other boxes out there that do the things that people want for FTA television (combined 7 day epg/recording). The answer is also yes and at half the price.

    Who really wants an RTE vanity box ? No one. They should have produced a box for the platform, the alternative FTA platform!!!


  • #1345
    Spon Farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Can Saorview be run from just an internet connection or is that just for the on-demand stuff?


  • #1346
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Spon Farmer wrote: »
    Can Saorview be run from just an internet connection or is that just for the on-demand stuff?

    Just the ondemand/playback stuff.

    The rest of it is just a bog standard dvb-t dvb-s2 combo box, without 7 day epg, without the ability to combine both sets of channels in one list and right now the inability to record......


  • #1347
    Maysa07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Maysa07


    My house hold doesn't watch a whole lot of TV and we've been using this box for a while now and I'm very happy with it. I know it doesn't suit everyones needs or demands but for me it's good.

    I got rid of sky about 3 years and had a first gen walker box with an aireal in the attic, so I already had the setup to use a combi box. The menu is neat and easy to navigate, App works ok for reminders and as a remote, over all it works very well for my requirements.


  • #1348
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,120 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    Maysa07 wrote: »
    My house hold doesn't watch a whole lot of TV and we've been using this box for a while now and I'm very happy with it.
    2 days?


  • #1349
    Maysa07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭Maysa07


    JDxtra wrote: »
    2 days?

    Edit :. Was trialing it. Sorry using my phone


  • #1350
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Maysa07 wrote: »
    Trial

    You should try an E2 box.

    You can record with them and actually see whats on all channels for the night in one grid.

    With all due respect I hope you are not typical of the trial user. The people who these boxes should be targetted at should be people who watch and record TV. Or perhaps they didnt want answers!!!


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  • #1351
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    JDxtra wrote: »
    2 days?
    Maysa07 wrote: »
    Was trialing it.

    As we found out about 2 months ago, the first person we knew about on the trial - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104667769#post104667769


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