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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #152
    Sephiral
    Registered Users Posts: 392 ✭✭Sephiral


    It really baffles me that anyone would willingly cripple their options to create a better team. The rest of the world fights really dirty when it comes to grabbing the best talent.

    Also, surely the five year rule should be based off when a player makes their professional debut instead of residency. This will surely lead to a mass grab of kids; a large quantity of whom will not make the grade and will end up abandoned in a foreign country instead. Chances at a better education notwithstanding.


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    #153
    [Deleted User]
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    Sephiral wrote: »

    Also, surely the five year rule should be based off when a player makes their professional debut instead of residency. This will surely lead to a mass grab of kids; a large quantity of whom will not make the grade and will end up abandoned in a foreign country instead. Chances at a better education notwithstanding.

    NZ and France would never ever agree for that.


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    #154
    connemara man
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 6,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭connemara man


    https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/article36298421.ece

    Former international rugby referee David McHugh resolves High Court case with IRFU
    Odd one


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    #155
    Buer
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    Australia much less so. Rake of players in their squad from NZ and the islands. Far more foreign born players than the other two currently.


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    #156
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,972 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    awec wrote: »
    Aki is not Irish,

    Was Isaac Boss Irish? Was Tom Court?


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    #157
    Burkie1203
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    Samoan PM has declared their rugby union bankrupt. They have asked the RFU for a 150k match fee from the 10m the game will generate.

    WR needs to address this on a wider scale.


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    #158
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Samoan PM has declared their rugby union bankrupt. They have asked the RFU for a 150k match fee from the 10m the game will generate.

    WR needs to address this on a wider scale.

    Yeah I was discussing this elsewhere. WR should either suggest guidelines on how match fees should be split, introduce some degree of revenue sharing, or else ensure that tier 1 nations are travelling to play tests in tier 2/3 nations more regularly.


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    #159
    Yeah_Right
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    Is the Samoan PM still the head of the Samoan Rugby Union?


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    #160
    Burkie1203
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    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Is the Samoan PM still the head of the Samoan Rugby Union?

    Not sure, thought that was Fiji that had political interference

    Its wrong though that NZ can demand 3mil for playing England at twickenham while samoa players get £650 a man match fee when the RFU generate 10mil per home AI.


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    #161
    Yeah_Right
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Not sure, thought that was Fiji that had political interference

    Its wrong though that NZ can demand 3mil for playing England at twickenham while samoa players get £650 a man match fee when the RFU generate 10mil per home AI.

    Yeah Fiji has political/military coup issues when it comes to their RU. Samoa's is very corrupt.

    I have no issue with NZ demanding 3mil to play England but I agree that Samoa should be getting a bigger slice of the pie.


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    #162
    razorblunt
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Samoan PM has declared their rugby union bankrupt. They have asked the RFU for a 150k match fee from the 10m the game will generate.

    WR needs to address this on a wider scale.

    Murrayfield is sold out for Saturday's game too.


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    #163
    Bazzo
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    Natwest will be sponsoring the 6 nations this year. The fact that this is a one year deal leads me to believe they didn't get anywhere near the money they were after, hopefully it doesn't affect the IRFU(and the provinces as a knock on) too badly.

    http://www.sixnationsrugby.com/titlesponsor#JLQ2XbbYqJgeBsO1.97

    EDIT: Oops, misunderstood. Apparently RBS owns Natwest, has extended for a year and has rebranded under the natwest name.


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    #164
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Natwest will be sponsoring the 6 nations this year. The fact that this is a one year deal leads me to believe they didn't get anywhere near the money they were after, hopefully it doesn't affect the IRFU(and the provinces as a knock on) too badly.

    http://www.sixnationsrugby.com/titlesponsor#JLQ2XbbYqJgeBsO1.97

    EDIT: Oops, misunderstood. Apparently RBS owns Natwest, has extended for a year and has rebranded under the natwest name.

    Yeah, RBS are Natwest.

    RBS didn't extend their sponsorship, the 6 Nations were unable to find anyone else, they went back to RBS at a reduced rate, and so they gave it to the Natwest which is not a great sign really I'd say.


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    #165
    Buer
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    The brass in Ulster Bank will heave a mighty sigh of relief. They still get their annual corporate junkets and p*ss ups.


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    #166
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Natwest will be sponsoring the 6 nations this year. The fact that this is a one year deal leads me to believe they didn't get anywhere near the money they were after, hopefully it doesn't affect the IRFU(and the provinces as a knock on) too badly.

    http://www.sixnationsrugby.com/titlesponsor#JLQ2XbbYqJgeBsO1.97

    EDIT: Oops, misunderstood. Apparently RBS owns Natwest, has extended for a year and has rebranded under the natwest name.

    According to my

    RBS offered to extend their sponsorship at an increase to the current rate for five years.

    Wales and Scotland demanded that the offer be rejected.

    6 nations followed the will of Wales and Scotland.

    6 nations failed to get a better sponsor and asked if the RBS deal was still on the table.

    RBS said no but offered a cut value one year deal.


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    #167
    Winters
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6P8gYd6xtQ

    Incredible viewing, please watch it. Puts things into perspective.

    Also a small cameo by Scott Fardy.


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    #168
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I've already hit my nonsense quota for today and its only 10am

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/hybrid-rugby-kangaroos-could-face-all-blacks-in-50-million-blockbuster/news-story/17478fa704842febabb837ed52862796


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    #169
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I've already hit my nonsense quota for today and its only 10am

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/hybrid-rugby-kangaroos-could-face-all-blacks-in-50-million-blockbuster/news-story/17478fa704842febabb837ed52862796

    Behind a paywall for me.


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    #170
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Behind a paywall for me.

    Copy the link address.

    Go to google.ie and paste it into the search bar (not the address/search bar in your browser).

    It'll come up in the search results and you'll be able to access it.


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    #171
    connemara man
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 6,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭connemara man


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I've already hit my nonsense quota for today and its only 10am

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/hybrid-rugby-kangaroos-could-face-all-blacks-in-50-million-blockbuster/news-story/17478fa704842febabb837ed52862796

    Behind a paywall for me. Is it the all blacks Vs kangaroos hyybrid union Vs league 50/50 match

    https://twitter.com/TheKiwiOracle/status/928547499463323648


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    #172
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It’s an odd one because the NatWest name is only used in England and Wales (Ulster Bank did originally use the NatWest symbol in its logo but changed to the RBS one over a decade ago). Really they get less benefit out of the sponsorship this way, but possibly reflective of the reduced amount.

    Incidentally it appears that a similar scenario occurred with PRL and Aviva, with the latter agreeing a one year extension at the last minute.


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    #173
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,235 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    icdg wrote: »
    It’s an odd one because the NatWest name is only used in England and Wales (Ulster Bank did originally use the NatWest symbol in its logo but changed to the RBS one over a decade ago). Really they get less benefit out of the sponsorship this way, but possibly reflective of the reduced amount.

    Incidentally it appears that a similar scenario occurred with PRL and Aviva, with the latter agreeing a one year extension at the last minute.

    Natwests biggest market is in england. Biggest viewing figures for 6n are in england. Thats the logic apparently


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    #174
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,235 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Indo are claiming RoG is off to the crusaders

    Cant link from phone


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    #175
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/world-cup/ronan-ogara-to-be-poached-by-top-new-zealand-super-rugby-outfit-report-36306765.html

    Was just about to post it.....huge, huge news...his stock is on the rise alright


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    #176
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Indo are claiming RoG is off to the crusaders

    Cant link from phone

    Wow, fair play ROG!


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    #177
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,235 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Wow, fair play ROG!

    Dan Carter pulling a jobs for the boys routine methinks. ;)


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    #178
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    What's the link between ROG and Crusaders/Robertson. Have they any history? Or just ROG's agent doing some digging.


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    #179
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,315 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Dan Carter pulling a jobs for the boys routine methinks. ;)
    Dan getting ROG to warm up the seat for him. :)


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    #180
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Dan Carter pulling a jobs for the boys routine methinks. ;)


    _89672720_dan_carter_ronan_o%27gara_getty.jpg

    "C'mere Dan, you need to be standing about 10 metres deeper, and would ya ever ping it into the corners a bit more boy, and your goal-kicking, sure you're doing it all wrong altogether, here, hold my clipboard til I show ya how it's don-"

    "Great news ROG, I got you a job in New Zealand"


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    #181
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Polota-Nau to Leicester confirmed. Missed that yesterday.....


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