Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781

The Rape of Lucretia · 08-11-2017 10:21PM

Is Killer really ahead of McGrath ?

Bazzo · 08-11-2017 10:25PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Kearney, Earls, Aki, Henshaw, Stockdale Sexton, Murray
Healy, Best, Furlong, Toner, Henderson, PoM, SoB, Stander

Kilcoyne, Herring, Ryan, Dillane; Ruddock, Marmion, Carbery, Conway

Above is According to Thornley

Thornley is actually calling 12. Aki 13. Henshaw and the wings are also reversed, not that either of them is a huge deal.

TBH I think a few people in here have been a little condescending in treating the possibilty of Henshaw playing outside Aki in this match as bat**** insane. It's an established relationship with the players in those positions so I have no idea why.

Here's Thornley's full possibles:

Gerry Thornley wrote:

IRELAND (possible, v South Africa): R Kearney; J Stockdale, R Henshaw, B Aki, K Earls; J Sexton, C Murray; C Healy, R Best (capt), T Furlong, D Toner, I Henderson, P O’Mahony, S O’Brien, C J Stander. Replacements: D Kilcoyne, R Herring, J Ryan, U Dillane, R Ruddock, K Marmion, J Carbery, A Conway.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/bundee-aki-in-line-for-ireland-debut-with-cian-healy-set-for-recall-1.3284720

EDIT: Sorry if I've missed it but does anyone know what happened to Jack McGrath? EDIT AGAIN: Oops I see Thornley says he just been dropped. Surprising.

ClanofLams · 08-11-2017 10:27PM

Can't argue with that team. The only comment I was going to make was didn't get why they wouldn't go with Aki at 12.

thomond2006 · 08-11-2017 10:28PM

Jack McGrath not in the 23? Wow.

Burkie1203 · 08-11-2017 10:31PM

Bazzo wrote: »

Thornley is actually calling 12. Aki 13. Henshaw and the wings are also reversed, not that either of them is a huge deal.

TBH I think a few people in here have been a little condescending in treating the possibilty of Henshaw playing outside Aki in this match as bat**** insane. It's an established relationship with the players in those positions so I have no idea why.

Here's Thornley's full possibles:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/bundee-aki-in-line-for-ireland-debut-with-cian-healy-set-for-recall-1.3284720

EDIT: Sorry if I've missed it but does anyone know what happened to Jack McGrath?

I wonder has GT got the 11-14 the wrong way around. Stockdale on the right wing would be a strange one IMO.

Burkie1203 · 08-11-2017 10:31PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Jack McGrath not in the 23? Wow.

Got to assume an injury of some sort.

irishbucsfan · 08-11-2017 10:33PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I wonder has GT got the 11-14 the wrong way around. Stockdale on the right wing would be a strange one IMO.

Nah, not with the way Ireland play. I'd put him on the right and keep Earls on the left.

Bazzo · 08-11-2017 10:41PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Got to assume an injury of some sort.

I thought so too but I hadn't noticed that Thornley seems to suggest he may just have been dropped.

Regardless of any further injuries, the bench could also contain some surprises, notably the choice of the in-form David Kilcoyne ahead of Jack McGrath,

Former Former · 08-11-2017 10:41PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Got to assume an injury of some sort.

That article makes it sound like a selection call.

Burkie1203 · 08-11-2017 10:46PM

Former Former wrote: »

That article makes it sound like a selection call.

Yeah just read the article again and copped that. Ruddock can feel a bit aggrieved based on form then. Backrow need a big performance

andymx11 · 09-11-2017 08:47AM

INDO reporting McGrath, Earls and O'Brien all carrying injuries.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/bundee-aki-set-to-make-ireland-debut-but-fears-for-keith-earls-36303269.html

irishbucsfan · 09-11-2017 08:55AM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I wonder has GT got the 11-14 the wrong way around. Stockdale on the right wing would be a strange one IMO.

The Indo have Earls/Conway on the right wing and Stockdale on the left

FellasFellas · 09-11-2017 09:54AM

andymx11 wrote: »

INDO reporting McGrath, Earls and O'Brien all carrying injuries.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/autumn-internationals/bundee-aki-set-to-make-ireland-debut-but-fears-for-keith-earls-36303269.html

Indo also don't have 8 subs on the bench..

Burkie1203 · 09-11-2017 10:01AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The Indo have Earls/Conway on the right wing and Stockdale on the left

I think the back three will be
11 Stockdale
14 Earls/Conway
15 R Kearney

Centre i still think 12. Henshaw 13. Aki.

The bench is going to be interesting. Herring, Kilcoyne are form picks, Ryan or Dillane is the most interesting of all. IT says Dillane. Indo says Ryan.

But there will still be conservative Joe nonsense being posted here and elsewhere come 2pm.

dub_skav · 09-11-2017 12:52PM

No way McGrath dropped for Kilcoyne. Must be injury based.

Healy has regained form and is rightly rewarded with a start, but Joe is not one to jettison one of his long term starters. Also, while McGrath is not playing at his peak, he has certainly not been disappointing

irishfan9 · 09-11-2017 12:55PM

McGrath hasn't been near his best this season to date, while Kilcoyne is probably having his best season of his career, lions hangover...

molloyjh · 09-11-2017 01:21PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I think the back three will be
11 Stockdale
14 Earls/Conway
15 R Kearney

Centre i still think 12. Henshaw 13. Aki.

The bench is going to be interesting. Herring, Kilcoyne are form picks, Ryan or Dillane is the most interesting of all. IT says Dillane. Indo says Ryan.

But there will still be conservative Joe nonsense being posted here and elsewhere come 2pm.

I can't wait to see how people justify playing out of form players having spent years bleating on about how we should be picking guys purely on form. Should be fun.

Bridge93 · 09-11-2017 01:42PM

Radio this morning said McGrath was injured. Gave no details

DGRulz · 09-11-2017 01:51PM

https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/928602592212606976

Sephiral · 09-11-2017 02:02PM

Team I'd pick:

15 Carberry
14 Earls (conway if injured)
13 Henshaw
12 Aki
11 Stockdale
10 Sexton
9 Murray
8 CJ
7 SOB
6 Ruddock
5 Henderson
4 Toner
3 Furlong
2 Best
1 McGrath

16 Herring
17 Healy
18 Ryan
19 Ryan
20 POM
21 Marmion
22 Mc Closkey
23 Kearney

Ruddock has been the best player on every rugby pitch he has stepped foot on far too many times to not get a start. I think we simply have to have a playmaker at full back at this stage. Only argument for keeping Kearney is experience/stability. Mc Grath starting and Healy benching is the right balance and they are both streets ahead of the competition. Mc Closkey is having a great season and provides a really strong carrying option off the bench.

I do reckon Joe will go with the team we all expect, but I can hope for at least one curveball.

Bazzo · 09-11-2017 02:08PM

molloyjh wrote: »

I can't wait to see how people justify playing out of form players having spent years bleating on about how we should be picking guys purely on form. Should be fun.

Which players are you talking about? Kearney and Dillane?

Bridge93 · 09-11-2017 02:09PM

Heard Earls and Murray out on twitter. That would be a disaster. Can't see many running with it though

09-11-2017 02:11PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Heard Earls and Murray out on twitter. That would be a disaster. Can't see many running with it though

We can win the match without either or both.

irishbucsfan · 09-11-2017 02:14PM

https://twitter.com/Cumoski/status/928610924767916032

Sephiral · 09-11-2017 02:16PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Heard Earls and Murray out on twitter. That would be a disaster. Can't see many running with it though

Earls is our best winger and Murray is one of our few world class players. Luckily, we have a bit of depth in our squad now, so losing both is not a total disaster at all.

We should all be saying our rosaries for Johnny though.

Larbre34 · 09-11-2017 02:18PM

Sweetnam bench eh? Presumably at D Kearneys expense. If Stockdale too starts then Joe is clearly think RWC 2019

Pudsy33 · 09-11-2017 02:19PM

Can anyone recommend a good pub in Brixton where I could catch the match on Saturday?

irishbucsfan · 09-11-2017 02:20PM

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good pub in Brixton where I could catch the match on Saturday?

Does it definitely have to be Brixton?

aloooof · 09-11-2017 02:25PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Sweetnam bench eh? Presumably at D Kearneys expense. If Stockdale too starts then Joe is clearly think RWC 2019

Sweetnam has been very good again this season, I'd be delighted if he gets on; it'd be his first cap as well, I believe.

Neil3030 · 09-11-2017 02:44PM

"But but but, conservative Joe? Untrusting Uncle Joe? The Maggie Thatcher of Irish Rugby? Picking young primising players who are in form?? I'll believe it when I see it.... and then find something else to complain about."

- Irish Rugby Fans

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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781