tattoo's and employment

CalamariFritti · 07-11-2017 03:11PM

Permabear wrote: »

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I meant on boards not necessarily on this thread. But I must apologise already. Not my place to mock. You’re clearly very proud of her and that’s good.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 04:05PM

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07-11-2017 04:33PM

While not out of the question, a potential employee would need to score very highly in other areas to get a job where I work if s/he had a visible tattoo.

Hector Savage · 07-11-2017 04:45PM

On their arms and legs and nothing offensive - yes sure.
a big **** OFF on their forehead or guns on the neck ... Nah ...

Vela · 07-11-2017 05:12PM

I have a good few tattoos now, but I only got my most visible one (which I'm adding to in a few weeks

) a few years ago. In that time, it's never been an issue for me with my own clients or with employment. I even made it clear to a recruiter who was trying to headhunt me for a role a while back with a multinational, and they told me it wouldn't be an issue. Which surprised me, in fairness. With that said, it can be covered up if necessary. I've just never been asked to. I do think the reluctance to hire people with visible tattoos is very much an Irish thing. I've lived in a few different countries where it certainly isn't the case.

I'd never look at tattoos as a negative reflection on a person's character. Some of the loveliest people I know have neck tattoos and the works. I've also worked with people in a corporate setting with full sleeves, etc. and you'd never know. However, I think that if you go down the road of below the wrist/neck, then you have to take into consideration that you just won't be hirable in a corporate setting in Ireland. Is that justified? Ehhh, I can see why it's an issue for hiring managers but, at the same time, I'm not sure it should be. Attitudes are definitely changing here, though, and I can see it becoming much less of an issue for employment in years to come.

corner of hells · 07-11-2017 05:25PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If i ran a brothel or a pirate ship I would have no problem with it

I like the cut of your jib , Madam.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 05:48PM

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Lux23 · 07-11-2017 05:59PM

I work with few people who have tattoos on their neck, way more educated than me.

Vela · 07-11-2017 06:01PM

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I can only go by my own experience and others I know. It definitely hasn't been an issue for me in the US. I'm also probably in a more creative area, but still with a corporate aspect. I can see how it might be different for, say, an accountant working in a Big 4 company. But that doesn't mean it "should" be.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 06:27PM

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Irish Guitarist · 07-11-2017 06:27PM

Only if it's something classy like this.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 06:33PM

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Vela · 07-11-2017 06:34PM

Permabear wrote: »

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Ah, see I haven't worked in that area so my view is probably limited in that regard.

Also, I'm not referring to hand or neck tattoos. Basically, I mean leg/arm tattoos that can be covered up but I haven't found it to be mandatory.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 06:41PM

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frag420 · 07-11-2017 06:45PM

This guy works at the zoo...

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Only if it's something classy like this.

whoopsadoodles · 07-11-2017 06:55PM

Permabear wrote: »

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I didn't mean for her to be the subject, so apologies of that seems the case. It was just an example to challenge the logic.

Permabear · 07-11-2017 07:21PM

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splinter65 · 07-11-2017 07:24PM

joe stodge wrote: »

would you hire someone if they have visible tattoos?

I have quite a few myself, back, legs, arms none visible if I wear a long sleeve shirt or T-shirt.

I don't think I've been hindered in employment with mine as I dress for interviews and don't flaunt them openly through out the process.

that being said I've noticed a huge boom in youngsters (18-23) getting fairly large visible pieces on their necks, hands, fingers and faces. I've always seen this as a fairly short sighted move as trends move on and even my opinions on stuff I felt strongly about when I was 18-23 have also changed with age.

I'm fairly sure that these type of tattoos would drastically effect someone's ability to find employment.

I know lots of kids this and mostly the ones who get large visible tattooos have no intention of ever being a regular employee.
If they see themselves being anything other than a SW recipient then it is a professional musician/sportsman etc.

Chrongen · 07-11-2017 07:27PM

People are saying that if a person is qualified for the job then tattoos should not be an issue. But equally a person could be qualified for the job yet show up to the interview in a filthy t-shirt, jeans, flip-flops, scraggly unkempt hair and unshaven (if male). What if they showed up reeking of alcohol or visibly under the influence or if their personal hygiene was appalling? What if they used foul language in the interview? They might be qualified for the job but i would bet that the interview would be cut short quite quickly if the aforementioned scenaria were the case and these are temporary issues that could be overcome.

gw80 · 07-11-2017 07:40PM

Chrongen wrote: »

People are saying that if a person is qualified for the job then tattoos should not be an issue. But equally a person could be qualified for the job yet show up to the interview in a filthy t-shirt, jeans, flip-flops, scraggly unkempt hair and unshaven (if male). What if they showed up reeking of alcohol or visibly under the influence or if their personal hygiene was appalling? What if they used foul language in the interview? They might be qualified for the job but i would bet that the interview would be cut short quite quickly if the aforementioned scenaria were the case and these are temporary issues that could be overcome.

If you are a welder that's basically a list of all the necessary qualities you must have, except the flip flops, flip flops and welding don't go well

Oranage2 · 07-11-2017 07:59PM

Tattoos whatever, I always assume a person with a visible tattoo is not of high claas employment unless sports star etc.

Not my cup of tea, I consider most if not all tattoos tacky pieces of sh!t no matter how how talents the tattooist is.

bodice ripper · 07-11-2017 08:06PM

Grocer's apostrophe? That's a jobstopper.

the_syco · 07-11-2017 08:07PM

Flew from Toronto to Calgary recently. There was a security guy in the airport on the Toronto side, long sleeved shirt, but you could still see hand and neck tattoos.

A lot of the bus drivers in the TTC in Toronto have full sleeves.

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Most people that I know who have tat's, are musicians. All would be able to cover them up with business attire.

Atoms for Peace · 07-11-2017 08:09PM

For a job in the Yakusa tats are a most have.

Beanntraigheach · 07-11-2017 08:19PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Context is everything.
A "normal" tattoo - of course, no problem.
A swastika on their forehead - no, I'd probably leave them jog on!

Aw shìte! So that's been my problem.

Would it help if I explained to potential employers that my swastika has nothing whatsoever to do with Nazism but is rather a sign of my undying devotion to my hero Charles Manson?

Snotty · 07-11-2017 08:26PM

If I had to hire a waitress, visable tattoos on the hands or face would be a complete no go. If it was for some position in back of house that never interacts with customers, then tattoos wouldn't be an issue, but I would question the brain power of someone with a facial tattoo and probably wouldn't hire them as they have already proven they make bad decisions.

Vela · 07-11-2017 08:31PM

the_syco wrote: »

Flew from Toronto to Calgary recently. There was a security guy in the airport on the Toronto side, long sleeved shirt, but you could still see hand and neck tattoos.

A lot of the bus drivers in the TTC in Toronto have full sleeves.

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Most people that I know who have tat's, are musicians. All would be able to cover them up with business attire.

It's very much the norm in Toronto. You'd look almost look twice if you saw someone without tattoos!

Foweva Awone · 07-11-2017 09:19PM

Most offices I've worked in, visible tattoos weren't permitted. I used to work in one of the big 4 accountancy firms, the dress code there for women was a skirt/trouser suit with an open neck blouse ... just as well I don't work there anymore as I've since gotten a large tattoo on my chest, up to my collarbone, and it's visible in most tops.

I'd have no problem hiring someone with tattoos. Well, it would be a bit hypocritical of me to say otherwise! Maybe it's because I happen to spend a lot of time with people with lots of tattoos/piercings, so I don't really notice them on people I meet, or judge them because of it.

_Brian · 07-11-2017 09:30PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

It's OK to discriminate?

It’s not discrimination of tiere is a genuine business reason though.

Like it or not lots of punters are put off by visible imtrusive tattoos, putting a person with such in a public facing role is likely to loose customers and so it’s a business decision rather than descrimination.

Actually there are only 9 specific grounds for discrimination in Ireland regarding employment that count and having a tatoo isn’t one, unless you class it as a disability ?

Irish Guitarist · 07-11-2017 09:32PM

Beanntraigheach wrote: »

Aw sh! So that's been my problem.

Would it help if I explained to potential employers that my swastika has nothing whatsoever to do with Nazism but is rather a sign of my undying devotion to my hero Charles Manson?

You're hired.

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