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crasy dash · 05-11-2017 10:32pm

Any one know where Russ Bray is this weekend dont think i saw him.

gramar · 05-11-2017 10:39pm

Outrageous few legs to start the final.

crasy dash · 05-11-2017 10:41pm

gramar wrote: »

Outrageous few legs to start the final.

They ain't hanging around tonight it's great

gramar · 05-11-2017 11:14pm

MvG being MvG. Mickey mouse trophies.

sc86 · 06-11-2017 11:58am

bassy wrote: »

Lewis hasnt been in form for a longggg time.....
Wade lewis are on the slide bigtime.might be so called big names,but not bigtime players at the deep of big tournaments anymore and havent been in a long time.and i could include gary anderson in that also hes not done a lot since hes back 2 back world championship success.the have the money made and thats it.
Thats where taylor is different he dominated repeatly for 20 odd years and more and can still beat the so called top 4 today.

including anderson in that group is very harsh
hes still winning tournaments or going deep in them
he doesnt enter every competition and clearly sets himself up to peak for world championship
hes not a yound man either with 2 young kids
he has nothing left to prove

the other 2 have done nothing in years and now are struggling to get into events

Ultimate Seduction · 06-11-2017 2:50pm

gramar wrote: »

MvG being MvG. Mickey mouse trophies.

??

bassy · 06-11-2017 3:40pm

sc86 wrote: »

including anderson in that group is very harsh
hes still winning tournaments or going deep in them
he doesnt enter every competition and clearly sets himself up to peak for world championship
hes not a yound man either with 2 young kids
he has nothing left to prove

the other 2 have done nothing in years and now are struggling to get into events

Anderson wont hit the heights or peak like he done when he won back 2 back worlds.so for that reason he wont be winning much in the way of majors again.as the final last nite proved.
Hes money is made and getting runs to quarters Nd semis will ensure money in the bank.

gramar · 06-11-2017 3:45pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

??

I was referring to the size of the trophies not the importance...!
The runners up one is hardly big enough to be a paper weight.

bassy · 06-11-2017 4:03pm

gramar wrote: »

I was referring to the size of the trophies not the importance...!
The runners up one is hardly big enough to be a paper weight.

Pretty dismal trophys for the world series final...............

Ultimate Seduction · 06-11-2017 4:29pm

Cadby won't be at this year's world's, Josh payne just knocked him out of the world youth championship semi finals. Payne v Van den bergh in final

ArmaniJeanss · 06-11-2017 4:48pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Cadby won't be at this year's world's, Josh payne just knocked him out of the world youth championship semi finals. Payne v Van den bergh in final

I think he's got a couple of outside shots still, at least one.
He's in the Grand Slam next week and a win in that (£110K) would see him ranked high enough, the £55K for second might be enough also.
And theres a PDPA qualifier for the Worlds in late November which has two places but a massive field (not sure if he is eligible or even intends competing if eligible).

ArmaniJeanss · 06-11-2017 4:54pm

Theres a Grand Slam qualifier on this afternoon & evening, 80 odd players chasing 8 places.
Adrian Lewis, VvdV, Alan Norris, Kyle Anderson, Klassen, Cristo Reyes, HuybrechtsX2 amongst the big names taking part.
https://www.pdc.tv/node/7271
Not sure if any coverage anywhere.

Ultimate Seduction · 06-11-2017 5:08pm

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I think he's got a couple of outside shots still, at least one.
He's in the Grand Slam next week and a win in that (£110K) would see him ranked high enough, the £55K for second might be enough also.
And theres a PDPA qualifier for the Worlds in late November which has two places but a massive field (not sure if he is eligible or even intends competing if eligible).

He can't qualify now no matter what he does at the slam, he had 3 chances and didn't qualify. He's not a tour card holder or a member of pdpa so is ineligible

ArmaniJeanss · 06-11-2017 5:46pm

No GSOD for Adrian, between 5-3 by Simon Stevenson in his L64 game.

Ultimate Seduction · 06-11-2017 6:11pm

Lewis will be ranked 20th in world in January, finally his ranking matching his form. He can't possibly be in premier league this year, along with Wade

Ultimate Seduction · 06-11-2017 7:38pm

Steve Lennon beats Joe Cullen to qualify for the Grand Slam. What a year for Steve who came through q school in January

peteeeed · 06-11-2017 7:54pm

Great news

jamesbere · 06-11-2017 10:24pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Lewis will be ranked 20th in world in January, finally his ranking matching his form. He can't possibly be in premier league this year, along with Wade

Both need a at least a semi final place to get premier league.
Not a hope for Lewis but wade has a nack for winning matches he should lose

ArmaniJeanss · 07-11-2017 12:00am

I think Lewis will be ok for the Premier League because he hasn't needed a wild card before, always been a Top4 qualifier (since 2011). Giving him a wild card this one time would thus be fair when other players have got wild cards multiple times.

What should also help him is that there will already be plenty of changes from last years 10 players. Taylor gone, Klaasen and Huybrechts surely both out, Wade also a question mark. I can't see them wanting to make 5 changes to the line-up so I think Lewis will get in.

bassy · 07-11-2017 1:30am

Lewis and wade should be left out of the premier lge.why because the havent achieved or hit the heights in the last few years lewus especially.if one was to miss out it would be lewis.the man has let himself go bigtime,hes even sweating in warm up throws befire the 1st leg of a match.

Lots of contenders to the premier lge mensur gurney maybe price if he finishes the year good.

Ultimate Seduction · 07-11-2017 5:05pm

Draw for the slam.

gramar · 07-11-2017 5:13pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Draw for the slam.

Group E looks very tasty. Not much else to get excited about in the group stages.

MvG and Ross the Boss is another standout match up.

Ultimate Seduction · 07-11-2017 5:30pm

Hopefully Lennon can get out of the group, depends what form Barneys in. This really short format will cause a few upsets.

peteeeed · 07-11-2017 6:10pm

Yeah group E looks like they’ve shat on poor Durrant.

sc86 · 07-11-2017 7:57pm

bassy wrote: »

Anderson wont hit the heights or peak like he done when he won back 2 back worlds.so for that reason he wont be winning much in the way of majors again.as the final last nite proved.
Hes money is made and getting runs to quarters Nd semis will ensure money in the bank.

his girlfriend has only just had another child in last few weeks so he has played next to no darts recently
he said himself he is a mile from his best but happy to get back playing
last night was no major - not even close
the run up to andersons second world championship was much same as this year and so was his run up to last years final loss
his money was made as far back as 2011 so iv no idea what point you are trying to make

sc86 · 07-11-2017 7:57pm

bassy wrote: »

Pretty dismal trophys for the world series final...............

its a mickey mouse event

sc86 · 07-11-2017 8:06pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Draw for the slam.

for me the event was better when it was on itv4 in its early years 07 -12 played with daytime and nightime games
when u had hankey and the likes entering
its in danger of turning into just another sky event
plus the standard of bdo players has dropped alot
still 1 of my fav events

bassy · 07-11-2017 9:37pm

sc86 wrote: »

his girlfriend has only just had another child in last few weeks so he has played next to no darts recently
he said himself he is a mile from his best but happy to get back playing
last night was no major - not even close
the run up to andersons second world championship was much same as this year and so was his run up to last years final loss
his money was made as far back as 2011 so iv no idea what point you are trying to make

I never said that final was a major.
Having a child lol sure mvg had one lately and hes still winning even though hes no where near firing on all cyclinders.

mdwexford · 07-11-2017 10:45pm

bassy wrote: »

Anderson wont hit the heights or peak like he done when he won back 2 back worlds.so for that reason he wont be winning much in the way of majors again.as the final last nite proved.
Hes money is made and getting runs to quarters Nd semis will ensure money in the bank.

Nonsense.

He's made the last three world finals.

The most important tournament by a country mile and the only PDC ranking tournament he's ever won apart from one players championship finals.

Him and The Power the only ones capable of stopping MVG from number 3.

gramar · 08-11-2017 1:09pm

Anderson looks like someone who is priming himself for the World Championships.
After MvG he is the best player out there and he'll fancy his chances of winning another world title.

peteeeed · 08-11-2017 1:37pm

and the long set format suits Anderson

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 2:14pm

gramar wrote: »

Anderson looks like someone who is priming himself for the World Championships.
After MvG he is the best player out there and he'll fancy his chances of winning another world title.

Peter Wright is the second best player in the world without a doubt. Rob Cross 3rd in my opinion. Can't judge a player who hits form for 2 weeks a year.

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 5:19pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Peter Wright is the second best player in the world without a doubt. Rob Cross 3rd in my opinion. Can't judge a player who hits form for 2 weeks a year.

Cross can do it on the floor but yet to show it on the big stage so he's far from third imo. I agree with Wright being second, after that they're all much of a muchness.

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 5:25pm

Cross was runner up on itv only last week. Final of 2 other euro tours on big stage. Quater finals of uk open. He's won 4 ranking events and multiple floor finals. He's the 3rd most consistent player this year on and off tv

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 5:28pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Cross was runner up on itv only last week. Final of 2 other euro tours on big stage. Quater finals of uk open. He's won 4 ranking events and multiple floor finals. He's the 3rd most consistent player this year on and off tv

I watch the majority of the darts on the telly and last week was the first time I'd really seen Cross make a stab at it, have heard he's ripping it up on the floor but the big stage is where you make it.

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 5:30pm

Liamalone wrote: »

I watch the majority of the darts on the telly and last week was the first time I'd really seen Cross make a stab at it, have heard he's ripping it up on the floor but the big stage is where you make it.

3 finals and a quater final on the big stage in the last 9 months.

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 5:34pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

3 finals and a quater final on the big stage in the last 9 months.

Fair enough Rob, come back when you've won one

24th in the rankings, behind titans like Michael Smith and Benito Van de Pas, yeah third best in the world. He's good but ain't that good.

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 5:41pm

The rankings go over 2 years.

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 5:46pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

The rankings go over 2 years.

True, Steve Beaton is above him for one, surely if he's been doing so well he'd be higher.

Anyways, he's good but he's not third best in the world if he hasn't proved himself on the big stage. Which he hasn't.

gramar · 08-11-2017 5:51pm

On form Cross is in the top 5. Whether he confirms that form with a good showing at the World Championship remains to be seen. He seems to have a quiet determination about him and have every confidence in his ability and looks set to establish himself as a top player over the next season.

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 5:55pm

Liamalone wrote: »

True, Steve Beaton is above him for one, surely if he's been doing so well he'd be higher.

Anyways, he's good but he's not third best in the world if he hasn't proved himself on the big stage. Which he hasn't.

You don't seem to understand the rankings mate

danganabu · 08-11-2017 6:30pm

peteeeed wrote: »

and the long set format suits Anderson

Set format full stop, its and entirely different concept, MVG actually struggles in comparision to straight leg matches

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Peter Wright is the second best player in the world without a doubt. Rob Cross 3rd in my opinion. Can't judge a player who hits form for 2 weeks a year.

Consistent or best? There is a very big difference. I know if my life depended on it and I could pick one player to beat MVG neither of those two would even enter my thoughts.

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 6:43pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

You don't seem to understand the rankings mate

I don't profess to know them inside out but someone who is 'third best' in the world and on top form should be higher than 24th. Gurney for example is doing well and is 4th in the same rankings.

sc86 · 08-11-2017 6:44pm

bassy wrote: »

I never said that final was a major.
Having a child lol sure mvg had one lately and hes still winning even though hes no where near firing on all cyclinders.

if you had ever had a child you will know having 1 in your 20s takes alot out of you on day to day - i cant even imagine how hard it is in your 50s

sc86 · 08-11-2017 6:48pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Peter Wright is the second best player in the world without a doubt. Rob Cross 3rd in my opinion. Can't judge a player who hits form for 2 weeks a year.

god good you cant be serious

rob cross is 3rd best player in world?
he hasnt even won a mickey mouse major
hes a form floor player this year - thats it
he has proved nothing in majors

mvg has said it lots that gary is only player that can stay with him

Ultimate Seduction · 08-11-2017 7:22pm

Liamalone wrote: »

I don't profess to know them inside out but someone who is 'third best' in the world and on top form should be higher than 24th. Gurney for example is doing well and is 4th in the same rankings.

Again, has only a pro 9 months. Rankings go over 2 years. He could have won the matchplay and still wouldn't be top 10.

Liamalone · 08-11-2017 8:09pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Again, has only a pro 9 months. Rankings go over 2 years. He could have won the matchplay and still wouldn't be top 10.

Tbh he could win both world championships and I still wouldn't class him as third in the world.

bassy · 08-11-2017 8:48pm

sc86 wrote: »

if you had ever had a child you will know having 1 in your 20s takes alot out of you on day to day - i cant even imagine how hard it is in your 50s

Rent a nanny job with all the millions.................and showcase the kids at the darts playing the super parents.......

gramar · 08-11-2017 10:02pm

Liamalone wrote: »

I don't profess to know them inside out but someone who is 'third best' in the world and on top form should be higher than 24th. Gurney for example is doing well and is 4th in the same rankings.

Again..Rob Cross only started earning this year while those around him are ranked based on two years earnings. It's anything but scientific but ig you doubled his earnings he'd be in the top 10 and that's the kind of form he's in.

sc86 · 09-11-2017 12:16am

stephen bunting done same in his first year on the order of merit
think he was top 20 by the time the worlds was on
how long did that last?
i could name 10 others that have done the same and are nowhere now

plenty have showed form for few months
be consistant over a few years and win a few majors
then you can start to consider if hes top 5 or whatever

wayne mardle comes out with total hyperbowl sh1t and even he wouldnt come out with something as off the charts
as rob cross been 3rd best in the world

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