What will you do with yours?

cantdecide · 02-11-2017 05:50PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Put it towards the property tax......

Funnily enough, you could ring about your Irish Water refund and immediately ring about your property tax and be talking to people in the same room on the same minimum wage from the same exploitative employer. Yay, government outsourcing slavery.

wnolan1992 · 02-11-2017 05:57PM

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Mine went to a landlord so he'll get mine :mad:

This.

Student at the time, water charge split six ways, paid by landlord. Chances of getting that money back? Eh, nil.

I'm not griping about not getting the money back mind, more just that that particular landlord who owns about 5 houses will now get 5 lovely cheques in the post for a "refund" of money they never paid in the first place.

And landlords bitch about how hard their lives are. :rolleyes:

Gerrup Outta Dat! · 02-11-2017 05:58PM

Light a Cuban cigar with it and blow it in the face of an IW employee.

Gerrup Outta Dat! · 02-11-2017 05:59PM

Cali Immense Farming wrote: »

Just throw it in the account with the rest of my funds. It's not much money.

Wooooo. See what I mean? Always the big man attitude.

Rubberchikken · 02-11-2017 06:01PM

I'll put.it away for when they regroup and start up again. I'd hate to think of any poor overworked manager having to have less in his pension because of me.

Colonel Claptrap · 02-11-2017 06:20PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Funnily enough, you could ring about your Irish Water refund and immediately ring about your property tax and be talking to people in the same room on the same minimum wage from the same exploitative employer. Yay, government outsourcing slavery.

Did that feel good?

wnolan1992 · 02-11-2017 06:25PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Funnily enough, you could ring about your Irish Water refund and immediately ring about your property tax and be talking to people in the same room on the same minimum wage from the same exploitative employer. Yay, government outsourcing slavery.

If this is true, I've badly misunderstood one or both of the above highlighted words for the majority of my life.

Jawgap · 02-11-2017 06:28PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Funnily enough, you could ring about your Irish Water refund and immediately ring about your property tax and be talking to people in the same room on the same minimum wage from the same exploitative employer. Yay, government outsourcing slavery.

I thought slaves weren't paid?

cantdecide · 02-11-2017 06:52PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I thought slaves weren't paid?

It's a metaphor. I thought it was obvious that Irish Water don't hold captured people and force them to work for nothing under threat of violence or death. Sorry.

Jawgap · 02-11-2017 07:05PM

cantdecide wrote: »

It's a metaphor. I thought it was obvious that Irish Water don't hold captured people and force them to work for nothing under threat of violence or death. Sorry.

Oh, and customer service reps are paid a bit more than minimum wage......not much, but a bit......

......and we (as in the taxpayer) had an equity stake in Abtran the company to which the work was outsourced.

cantdecide · 02-11-2017 07:11PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Oh, and customer service reps are paid a bit more than minimum wage......not much, but a bit......

......and we (as in the taxpayer) had an equity stake in Abtran the company to which the work was outsourced.

Well, The Carlisle Group have the majority stake in Abtran today. You should look into them. Such is the caliber of organisation handling state labour and resources. Since the minimum wage went up, so has the entry level wage in the company. Also, if you earn 20c/ hour over minimum wage, effectively you're still on minimum wage even if technically you're not. Let's be realistic.

jamesbere · 02-11-2017 07:14PM

I'm going to by some moon pie

jos28 · 02-11-2017 07:18PM

Buy gin, it's nicer than water

Jawgap · 02-11-2017 07:18PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Well, The Carlisle Group have the majority stake in Abtran today. You should look into them. Such is the caliber of organisation handling state labour and resources. Since the minimum wage went up, so has the entry level wage in the company. Also, if you earn 20c/ hour over minimum wage, effectively you're still on minimum wage even if technically you're not. Let's be realistic.

Yeah and the NPRF put about €125m into their Irish vehicle CCI, which took the position in Abtran.

I've no problem with money being invested prudently and costs being kept down......bit of a win/win for the taxpayer.

Roger_007 · 02-11-2017 07:24PM

"Spent half on gambling, women and drink; and just wasted the rest"
(Quote from George Best on how he spent his money.)

I'll probably do the same.

Vita nova · 02-11-2017 07:25PM

Buy a rainwater collection tank (aka water butt)... the balance will go on food and wine.

9or10 · 02-11-2017 07:27PM

Jawgap wrote: »

I never really understood the fuss, but there again I lived in a few places where you paid for your water.

Oh so you're the other one. Howya?

cantdecide · 02-11-2017 07:51PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Yeah and the NPRF put about €125m into their Irish vehicle CCI, which took the position in Abtran.

I've no problem with money being invested prudently and costs being kept down......bit of a win/win for the taxpayer.

Well, I wonder how the taxpayers that work there feel and remember how little tax tax people on minimum wage pay. Remember also how little people on minimum wage contribute to the economy at large. There was a time when these types of jobs were an opportunity for young people to launch their career. It's nothing like that now but there are many fuzzy headlines in the paper about what wonderful things these places are. I tend to disagree and see them as Job Bridge 2.0. You wouldn't to be or love anyone whose circumstances are such that these jobs are the only possibility they have and there are many people in that category in these places.

Jawgap · 02-11-2017 08:12PM

cantdecide wrote: »

Well, I wonder how the taxpayers that work there feel and remember how little tax tax people on minimum wage pay. Remember also how little people on minimum wage contribute to the economy at large. There was a time when these types of jobs were an opportunity for young people to launch their career. It's nothing like that now but there are many fuzzy headlines in the paper about what wonderful things these places are. I tend to disagree and see them as Job Bridge 2.0. You wouldn't to be or love anyone whose circumstances are such that these jobs are the only possibility they have and there are many people in that category in these places.

Well as you pointed out, it's not slavery so they're free to leave.

Jobs like that are stepping stone. Currently have a relation working in a call centre and it suits him with his academic commitments.

Frankly, given the scripting etc I'm not sure it's a job that requires more than a minimum wage to be paid in respect of it.

cantdecide · 02-11-2017 08:35PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Well as you pointed out, it's not slavery so they're free to leave.

Jobs like that are stepping stone. Currently have a relation working in a call centre and it suits him with his academic commitments.

Frankly, given the scripting etc I'm not sure it's a job that requires more than a minimum wage to be paid in respect of it.

There are retirees working there who leave in brand new cars. There are people whose partner is the main breadwinner too but on the other end of the scale you have hardship and the poverty trap all under one roof. You can choose to believe these places are like playschools and everyone is free to walk into a better paying job but there is a lot of despair in these places and there is also a lot of hard work and the 'because we can' attitude of the management in cahoots with the government is little consolation to people who have little choice but to endure the financial hardship given their unique circumstances. The latter category is very well represented.

Jawgap · 02-11-2017 09:38PM

cantdecide wrote: »

There are retirees working there who leave in brand new cars. There are people whose partner is the main breadwinner too but on the other end of the scale you have hardship and the poverty trap all under one roof. You can choose to believe these places are like playschools and everyone is free to walk into a better paying job but there is a lot of despair in these places and there is also a lot of hard work and the 'because we can' attitude of the management in cahoots with the government is little consolation to people who have little choice but to endure the financial hardship given their unique circumstances. The latter category is very well represented.

I don't believe for a moment they are playschools or anything like it. Dealing with the public is never easy. But they ain't the modern equivalent of Blake's "dark satanic mills."

Btw, the government can be changed......if people are unhappy with the arrangements governments enter into on our behalf, vote them out.

spurious · 02-11-2017 09:48PM

I need it to pay the property tax.

andekwarhola · 02-11-2017 09:48PM

Use it to offset the compensatory increase that'll be invariably made to another stealth tax forked out by umprotesting mugs on middle income that are supposedly 'raking it in'.

ToddyDoody · 02-11-2017 09:51PM

I thought this might have been the leftover Halloween sweets thread.

I brought mine into work.

wnolan1992 · 03-11-2017 12:10PM

jamesbere wrote: »

I'm going to by some moon pie

Moon pie? What a time to be alive!

branie2 · 03-11-2017 12:16PM

That's a paddlin'!

Jawgap · 03-11-2017 12:51PM

Wondering what you might do with your refund?

Maybe consider giving something under this initiative.....3 charities worth supporting with a few quid......

Getting a water charges refund? These charities want you to donate it to help tackle homelessness

THREE OF IRELAND’S leading homelessness charities have started a campaign aimed at getting people to donate their water charges refunds towards tackling homelessness in Ireland.

Refunds totalling €173 million will be paid to 990,000 Irish Water customers before the end of the year.

The legislation to enable the refunding of water charges is progressing through the Oireachtas and is expected to be approved shortly.
In the meantime, the utility has launched a refunds page on its website for those who paid the charges and are due money back.

Focusing on the refunds, three of Ireland’s leading charities – Focus Ireland, Simon Community and the Peter McVerry Trust – have asked people to consider donating the money they received to go towards tackling Ireland’s homelessness crisis.

donegaLroad · 03-11-2017 12:55PM

scamalert wrote: »

blah on radio heard theres no actual plan yet when and how funds will be refunded,only that a site was setup for people to go to.

any idea how it will come back to those who paid in cash ?

Possibly as tax credits added to your annual tax free allowance... Just guessing.

cdeb · 03-11-2017 11:02PM

Jawgap wrote: »

Wondering what you might do with your refund?

Maybe consider giving something under this initiative.....3 charities worth supporting with a few quid......

Really starting to get annoyed at how lecherous some charities are getting these days.

Have a walk around town? "Excuse me sir - have you two minutes? One minute?"

Put the dinner on - the doorbell rings - "Good evening sir. Sorry to trouble you at this hour, but do you like dogs? Well in that case, you'll want to help the Dogs' Trust"

Get a tax refund - "Hey, you know who'd like that money better than you? Us"

And yes, I'm one of those who thinks the "homeless crisis" is blown out of proportion in order to keep the funds rolling in for it.

Jawgap · 03-11-2017 11:07PM

cdeb wrote: »

Really starting to get annoyed at how lecherous some charities are getting these days.

Have a walk around town? "Excuse me sir - have you two minutes? One minute?"

Put the dinner on - the doorbell rings - "Good evening sir. Sorry to trouble you at this hour, but do you like dogs? Well in that case, you'll want to help the Dogs' Trust"

Get a tax refund - "Hey, you know who'd like that money better than you? Us"

And yes, I'm one of those who thinks the "homeless crisis" is blown out of proportion in order to keep the funds rolling in for it.

I absolutely will not support any charity that chugs or goes door-to-door looking for bank details.

In that regard, I think the PMVT doesn't chug etc and they do some excellent work.

What will you do with yours?

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