Jawgap wrote: » Put it towards the property tax......
RacoonQueen wrote: » Mine went to a landlord so he'll get mine :mad:
Cali Immense Farming wrote: » Just throw it in the account with the rest of my funds. It's not much money.
cantdecide wrote: » Funnily enough, you could ring about your Irish Water refund and immediately ring about your property tax and be talking to people in the same room on the same minimum wage from the same exploitative employer. Yay, government outsourcing slavery.
Jawgap wrote: » I thought slaves weren't paid?
cantdecide wrote: » It's a metaphor. I thought it was obvious that Irish Water don't hold captured people and force them to work for nothing under threat of violence or death. Sorry.
Jawgap wrote: » Oh, and customer service reps are paid a bit more than minimum wage......not much, but a bit...... ......and we (as in the taxpayer) had an equity stake in Abtran the company to which the work was outsourced.
cantdecide wrote: » Well, The Carlisle Group have the majority stake in Abtran today. You should look into them. Such is the caliber of organisation handling state labour and resources. Since the minimum wage went up, so has the entry level wage in the company. Also, if you earn 20c/ hour over minimum wage, effectively you're still on minimum wage even if technically you're not. Let's be realistic.
Jawgap wrote: » I never really understood the fuss, but there again I lived in a few places where you paid for your water.
Jawgap wrote: » Yeah and the NPRF put about €125m into their Irish vehicle CCI, which took the position in Abtran. I've no problem with money being invested prudently and costs being kept down......bit of a win/win for the taxpayer.
cantdecide wrote: » Well, I wonder how the taxpayers that work there feel and remember how little tax tax people on minimum wage pay. Remember also how little people on minimum wage contribute to the economy at large. There was a time when these types of jobs were an opportunity for young people to launch their career. It's nothing like that now but there are many fuzzy headlines in the paper about what wonderful things these places are. I tend to disagree and see them as Job Bridge 2.0. You wouldn't to be or love anyone whose circumstances are such that these jobs are the only possibility they have and there are many people in that category in these places.
Jawgap wrote: » Well as you pointed out, it's not slavery so they're free to leave. Jobs like that are stepping stone. Currently have a relation working in a call centre and it suits him with his academic commitments. Frankly, given the scripting etc I'm not sure it's a job that requires more than a minimum wage to be paid in respect of it.
cantdecide wrote: » There are retirees working there who leave in brand new cars. There are people whose partner is the main breadwinner too but on the other end of the scale you have hardship and the poverty trap all under one roof. You can choose to believe these places are like playschools and everyone is free to walk into a better paying job but there is a lot of despair in these places and there is also a lot of hard work and the 'because we can' attitude of the management in cahoots with the government is little consolation to people who have little choice but to endure the financial hardship given their unique circumstances. The latter category is very well represented.
jamesbere wrote: » I'm going to by some moon pie
THREE OF IRELAND’S leading homelessness charities have started a campaign aimed at getting people to donate their water charges refunds towards tackling homelessness in Ireland. Refunds totalling €173 million will be paid to 990,000 Irish Water customers before the end of the year. The legislation to enable the refunding of water charges is progressing through the Oireachtas and is expected to be approved shortly. In the meantime, the utility has launched a refunds page on its website for those who paid the charges and are due money back. Focusing on the refunds, three of Ireland’s leading charities – Focus Ireland, Simon Community and the Peter McVerry Trust – have asked people to consider donating the money they received to go towards tackling Ireland’s homelessness crisis.
scamalert wrote: » blah on radio heard theres no actual plan yet when and how funds will be refunded,only that a site was setup for people to go to. any idea how it will come back to those who paid in cash ?
Jawgap wrote: » Wondering what you might do with your refund? Maybe consider giving something under this initiative.....3 charities worth supporting with a few quid......
cdeb wrote: » Really starting to get annoyed at how lecherous some charities are getting these days. Have a walk around town? "Excuse me sir - have you two minutes? One minute?" Put the dinner on - the doorbell rings - "Good evening sir. Sorry to trouble you at this hour, but do you like dogs? Well in that case, you'll want to help the Dogs' Trust" Get a tax refund - "Hey, you know who'd like that money better than you? Us" And yes, I'm one of those who thinks the "homeless crisis" is blown out of proportion in order to keep the funds rolling in for it.
