National Duty of Egyptians!

pablo128 · 02-11-2017 09:26PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I don't think the lad you are responding to lives in Ireland.

I don't think he's catholic either. I was trying to get a rise out of him, and fair play, I think he read me like a book.:pac:

Beechwoodspark · 02-11-2017 09:31PM

This would be a cracking starting question for Halawa on the late late tomorrow night.

Ask him his opinion on these comments and then move on to some more questions on gay rights.

Only fair considering tubs made mcgregor grovel over his comments.

Odhinn · 02-11-2017 09:32PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

This would be a cracking starting question for Halawa on the late late tomorrow night.

Ask him his opinion on these comments and then move on to some more questions on gay rights.

Only fair considering tubs made mcgregor grovel over his comments.

Why, what did Halawa say about gays?

Roger Hassenforder · 02-11-2017 09:53PM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.

One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

You absolute hypocrite!
Selective quoting from Wiki, the claim that MEMRI selectively quote Islamic media...

Well played, nicely shoehorning whatever anti Israeli agenda you're pedaling

Here's the entire paragraph in case anyone gives one:

MEMRI states that its goal is to "bridge the language gap between the Middle East and the West."[2] It has been praised as an "invaluable" resource[3] and for helping to "shine a spotlight on hate speech wherever it appears".[4] Critics charge that despite portraying itself as neutral,[5] it aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

Zerbini Blewitt · 02-11-2017 11:04PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You absolute hypocrite!
Selective quoting from Wiki, the claim that MEMRI selectively quote Islamic media...

I couldn’t give two shytes how Memri describes itself. It’s a cynical Israeli propaganda outfit.

Claiming that I am being somehow hypocritical is laughable cluelessness.

A Little Pony · 02-11-2017 11:42PM

Army_of_One wrote: »

jacksie66 wrote: »

Islamaphobia isn't a word.

You're correct...but Islamophobia is.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/islamophobia

Which proves what? Nothing wrong with being "Islamophobic".

Roger Hassenforder · 02-11-2017 11:44PM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I couldn’t give two shytes how Memri describes itself. It’s a cynical Israeli propaganda outfit.

Claiming that I am being somehow hypocritical is laughable cluelessness.

"Couldn't give two shytes'" yet you're the one to introduce them into.this with a 'description"

"laughable cluelessness"
How will I ever recover from such a rejoinder...

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
That's hypocrisy. FYI

1/10 must try harder

Odhinn · 02-11-2017 11:46PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
............r

..............he searches Israeli media for extremist comments fulltime?

gitzy16v · 02-11-2017 11:46PM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.

One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

So is it fake news then?

Roger Hassenforder · 02-11-2017 11:49PM

Odhinn wrote: »

..............he searches Israeli media for extremist comments fulltime?

No, he selectively quotes Wiki to criticise them for selectively quoting Islamic media!
Two of them at it

mfceiling · 02-11-2017 11:55PM

That's desperately awful to come out with such rubbish. I'd like to see the pyramids but there's no way I'd visit Egypt. You'd want to be mad to head there...even worse if you went on holidays and just happened to find yourself addressing a large crowd of people. You'd end up getting shot and suffering 4 years of torture in prison.

Zerbini Blewitt · 03-11-2017 12:26AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
That's hypocrisy. FYI

1/10 must try harder

I give you 10/10 for lightweight pedantry on an irrelevance (the wiki article)

gitzy16v wrote: »

So is it fake news then?

I don't think so.

Roger Hassenforder · 03-11-2017 01:12AM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I give you 10/10 for lightweight pedantry on an irrelevance (the wiki article)

I don't think so.

You brought it up! And then selectively quoted it...
(10/10 for Roger. *Dabs)

Anyway, moving on, it's not fake news?
So it's true?

gitzy16v · 03-11-2017 01:15AM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I don't think so.

So what's the difference who reported it?

Roger Hassenforder · 03-11-2017 01:16AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

So what's the difference who reported it?

Nailed it.

Zerbini Blewitt · 03-11-2017 01:54AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

So what's the difference who reported it?

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

gitzy16v · 03-11-2017 02:36AM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

It's not fake news so it doesn't matter who reported it.
Makes no difference if the original reporting agency has an agenda.
The story's real,everything you posted is speculation and opinion.
Scum like this Egyptian should be shown up for what they are...scum..
If it takes some Israeli intelligence service to do it then so be it.
Seems you've more of an issue with the source than the content.

Roger Hassenforder · 03-11-2017 08:24AM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

Shoot the messenger

HonalD · 03-11-2017 10:02AM

So have any of you experts been to Egypt or met or spoken to Egyptians? Or are you pulling your comments out of the air?

wakka12 · 03-11-2017 01:12PM

HonalD wrote: »

So have any of you experts been to Egypt or met or spoken to Egyptians? Or are you pulling your comments out of the air?

A 2008 study found that 83 per cent of Egyptian women said they had been sexually harassed and 53 per cent of men blamed women for “bringing it on themselves”

Do we need to go there to find out its a completely messed up society?

Shurimgreat · 03-11-2017 01:27PM

His views are sadly indicative of a widespread view across the Islamic world.

Here's another example from the same country.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/egyptian-tv-presenter-doaa-salah-jailed-after-appearing-to-advocate-unmarried-sex/ar-AAunGHl?li=BBr5KbJ

Egypt is slightly more progressive that most of the Middle East and North Africa. Its attitudes to women are probably somewhere equivalent to the 10th century which I guess is progress.

Dravokivich · 03-11-2017 01:39PM

grahambo wrote: »

And people think multiculturalism will work...

We are so inherently different, in our values and what we believe, that it will never work.

We are the result of the input of multiple cultures.

quintana76 · 03-11-2017 01:47PM

To think that daddy Halawa's bunch were considered too extreme even for that environment . I have great confidence that Tubridy will ask the searching questions on the Late Late tonight.
More like."Which crisps did you miss the most Tayto or King?"

HonalD · 03-11-2017 02:21PM

wakka12 wrote: »

HonalD wrote: »

So have any of you experts been to Egypt or met or spoken to Egyptians? Or are you pulling your comments out of the air?

A 2008 study found that 83 per cent of Egyptian women said they had been sexually harassed and 53 per cent of men blamed women for “bringing it on themselves”

Do we need to go there to find out its a completely messed up society?

So you quote from an unsourced “study” to avoid answering my question?

And what society is not “messed up”. Your words, not mine.

HonalD · 03-11-2017 02:25PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

His views are sadly indicative of a widespread view across the Islamic world.

Here's another example from the same country.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/egyptian-tv-presenter-doaa-salah-jailed-after-appearing-to-advocate-unmarried-sex/ar-AAunGHl?li=BBr5KbJ

Egypt is slightly more progressive that most of the Middle East and North Africa. Its attitudes to women are probably somewhere equivalent to the 10th century which I guess is progress.

Sex outside marriage. I seem to remember that being a “sin” in good old Catholic Ireland.

I’m not defending what that guy said, far from it, but to think that his comments are indicative of the prevailing view of all Egyptians is moronic and at best I’ll-informed.

Gerrup Outta Dat! · 03-11-2017 02:26PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

What is so shocking about this comment coming from an Islamic country who think Muhammad is the perfect man when he raped lots of women? It's normal to these people.

Where does it say Muhammad raped?

The Virgin Mary was 12 when she wed Joseph .... so ......

Gerrup Outta Dat! · 03-11-2017 02:28PM

pablo128 wrote: »

Well this is a predominantly catholic country. Do you follow every catholic guideline?

Barking up the wrong tree. ALP is a unionist.

Guy:Incognito · 03-11-2017 02:35PM

pablo128 wrote: »

And to think Conor Mc Gregor was made grovel for forgiveness for saying the word 'f@ggot'.

Someone else being a bigger arsehole doesn't excuse your own actions.

Much like the "have the gardai no real criminals to catch " brigade.

Enforce the rules on everyone ,except me.

Hector Savage · 03-11-2017 02:37PM

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.

One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

Absolute scutter

Israel is the ONLY true democracy in the middle east.

Odhinn · 03-11-2017 02:46PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Absolute scutter

Israel is the ONLY true democracy in the middle east.

You can't occupy millions of people, deprive them of a vote and claim to be a democracy.

National Duty of Egyptians!

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