National Duty of Egyptians!

Donald Trump

Not building pyramids. Not even doing military service. Just do your best to rape girls wearing ripped jeans

I say that when a girl walks about like that, it is a patriotic duty to sexually harass her and a national duty to rape her.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/lawyer-says-its-a-national-duty-to-rape-girls-who-wear-revealing-clothing-like-ripped-jeans-36283153.html

Feckin' mental that these people are given prominence

Foxhound38

Donald Trump wrote: »

Not building pyramids. Not even doing military service. Just do your best to rape girls wearing ripped jeans



https://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/lawyer-says-its-a-national-duty-to-rape-girls-who-wear-revealing-clothing-like-ripped-jeans-36283153.html

Feckin' mental that these people are given prominence

He sounds lovely. I bet he's great craic at parties.

pablo128

And to think Conor Mc Gregor was made grovel for forgiveness for saying the word 'f@ggot'.

Beta Ray Bill

And people think multiculturalism will work...

We are so inherently different, in our values and what we believe, that it will never work.

Odhinn

Donald Trump wrote: »

Not building pyramids. Not even doing military service. Just do your best to rape girls wearing ripped jeans



https://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/lawyer-says-its-a-national-duty-to-rape-girls-who-wear-revealing-clothing-like-ripped-jeans-36283153.html

Feckin' mental that these people are given prominence

That's what I say when Cora Sherlock and co get on the news, but there we are.

Besides, the cynical might observe that he's piossibly a draw to viewers, given his last showing

Mr al-Wahsh made headlines in October last year after his debate with a liberal cleric descended into chaos and chairs and shoes wound up flying around the TV studio.
The fiercely heated discussion turned ferocious after Sheikh Rashad, who is famed for his permissive interpretation of Islam, argued women should not necessarily be required to cover their hair with a headscarf.

“You're an apostate! You're an infidel” Mr Wahsh yelled.
The cleric responded: “You're mentally ill. You belong in a mental hospital.”

Donald Trump

Although in fairness, he might be onto something about being worried about women having the power to issue fatwahs while on their period......... It's bad enough being put in the bad books at that time of the month for no reason without her being able to nail a fatwah to your arse ;-)

A Little Pony

What is so shocking about this comment coming from an Islamic country who think Muhammad is the perfect man when he raped lots of women? It's normal to these people.

Foxhound38

I love the bit about the cleric rushing at him and him belting him with his shoe during a TV debate though.

Vincent Brown would have been gas if Cora Sherlock and Ivana Bacik took a similar tack.

pablo128

A Little Pony wrote: »

What is so shocking about this comment coming from an Islamic country who think Muhammad is the perfect man when he raped lots of women? It's normal to these people.

It is a country popular for tourism, the Pyramids etc. He is basically calling on the general public to rape women wearing dresses or showing some exposed skin.

seamus

I'm guessing he's Egypt's version of Katie Hopkins.

A Little Pony

pablo128 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

What is so shocking about this comment coming from an Islamic country who think Muhammad is the perfect man when he raped lots of women? It's normal to these people.

It is a country popular for tourism, the Pyramids etc. He is basically calling on the general public to rape women wearing dresses or showing some exposed skin.

It's an Islamic country, what do you expect? You couldn't pay me to visit one.

topper75

You visit one? Maybe before long the mountain will come to Mohammed and you won't have to! :-)

pablo128

A Little Pony wrote: »

It's an Islamic country, what do you expect? You couldn't pay me to visit one.

Well this is a predominantly catholic country. Do you follow every catholic guideline?

zig

Well judging by the outrage this caused in Egypt I’m guessing Egyptians also think he’s a tosser (much to the disappointment of some posters here no doubt)

Donald Trump

zig wrote: »

Well judging by the outrage this caused in Egypt I’m guessing Egyptians also think he’s a tosser (much to the disappointment of some posters here no doubt)

Maybe that's the solution....more tossing and less raping? Perhaps they could set up a new political party with that very motto!

wakka12

This really annoys me because feminists from the west will complain about rape culture here and still encourage immigration from countries where politicaisn openly say things like this. Apparently white men are the problem..why isnt this man more hated than donald trump ?????

The_Kew_Tour

The worrying bit for me is that 53% of men from there think the same

A Little Pony

pablo128 wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote: »

It's an Islamic country, what do you expect? You couldn't pay me to visit one.

Well this is a predominantly catholic country. Do you follow every catholic guideline?

I'd rather live in a Catholic country than an Islamic one, yes.

Donald Trump

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The worrying bit for me is that 53% of men from there think the same

The article doesn't state that. It states that 53% of men think that women who are sexually harassed bring it on themselves. It's still wrong, but it's not saying that 53% of men think it's a national duty to rape

Zerbini Blewitt

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.

[Memri] aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

The_Kew_Tour

Donald Trump wrote: »

The article doesn't state that. It states that 53% of men think that women who are sexually harassed bring it on themselves. It's still wrong, but it's not saying that 53% of men think it's a national duty to rape

True in what you say.

But it's still victim blaming in Sexual Harressment. I mean it's a majority of men even if it's just which is worrying.

MikeenRonanJr

This thread is basically a snapshot of the Islamophobia and anti-POC attitudes that exist in Irish, and indeed Western society. Who the hell are we imperialists to tell Mr al-Wahsh (صلى الله عليه وسلم) how to live in Muslim society?

pablo128

MikeenRonanJr wrote: »

This thread is basically a snapshot of the Islamophobia and anti-POC attitudes that exist in Irish, and indeed Western society. Who the hell are we imperialists to tell Mr al-Wahsh (صلى الله عليه وسلم) how to live in Muslim society?

Well it seems his own people have no problem in telling him, going as far as having a physical fight with him on national TV over there.

Hitman3000

pablo128 wrote:

Well this is a predominantly catholic country. Do you follow every catholic guideline?

I don't think the lad you are responding to lives in Ireland.

jacksie66

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super_furry

Judge a society by their most vocal fringe lunatics and you'd think everyone in Britain is like Katie Hopkins and that Identity Ireland speak for everyone here.

wakka12

super_furry wrote: »

Judge a society by their most vocal fringe lunatics and you'd think everyone in Britain is like Katie Hopkins and that Identity Ireland speak for everyone here.

Except its a much more ****ed up society than ours, and so their lunatics are even lunier.. as if theres any western figures with any public platform who have said anything even a fraction similar to 'it's a national duty to rape girls who wear revealing clothing like ripped jeans'

And I think youre ignoring the fact tht 53 percent of egyptian men believe women who are raped are 'bringing it on themselves'
Theres something radically wrong with the majority of islamic socities and to try and compare them in any way to ours, with all this oh we have crazies like katie hopkins, is ridiculous

Ill take katie hopkins as my country leader over the average egyptian man any day. At least she doesnt condone rape like the majority of efyptian men literally do

A Little Pony

wakka12 wrote: »

super_furry wrote: »

Judge a society by their most vocal fringe lunatics and you'd think everyone in Britain is like Katie Hopkins and that Identity Ireland speak for everyone here.

Except their lunatics are even lunier, as if theres any western figures with any public platform who have said anything even a fraction similar to 'it's a national duty to rape girls who wear revealing clothing like ripped jeans'

And I think youre ignoring the fact tht 53 percent of egyptian men believe women who are raped are 'bringing it on themselves'
Theres something radically wrong with the majority of islamic socities and to try and compare them in any way to ours, with all this oh we have crazies like katie hopkins, is ridiculous

Ill take katie hopkins as my country leader over the average egyptian man any day. At least she doesnt condone rape like the majority of efyptian men literally do

Yeah, we have right wingers, Marxists, Conservatives, etc in society but I can't remember ever hearing such words from any political commentator in the UK like that. You can't make valid comparisons.

imme

pablo128 wrote: »

And to think Conor Mc Gregor was made grovel for forgiveness for saying the word 'f@ggot'.

What has this got to do with that.

Why are you confusing the issue.

Ireland is not USA, Egypt is not Ireland.
This thread is about an Egyptian lawyer who was taking part in a TV show in Egypt.

This case is a comment on the man who made them, the society he lives in that gives rise to such opinions, the fact that this issue has made 'news' in Europe.

Odhinn

jacksie66 wrote: »

Islamaphobia isn't a word. A phobia is an irrational fear of something. Being afraid of the vile religion that is Islam is very rational..

Odd that it really only became a thing after September 11th 2001.

Army_of_One

jacksie66 wrote: »

Islamaphobia isn't a word.

You're correct...but Islamophobia is.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/islamophobia

pablo128

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I don't think the lad you are responding to lives in Ireland.

I don't think he's catholic either. I was trying to get a rise out of him, and fair play, I think he read me like a book.:pac:

Beechwoodspark

This would be a cracking starting question for Halawa on the late late tomorrow night.

Ask him his opinion on these comments and then move on to some more questions on gay rights.

Only fair considering tubs made mcgregor grovel over his comments.

Odhinn

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

This would be a cracking starting question for Halawa on the late late tomorrow night.

Ask him his opinion on these comments and then move on to some more questions on gay rights.

Only fair considering tubs made mcgregor grovel over his comments.

Why, what did Halawa say about gays?

Roger Hassenforder

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.



One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

You absolute hypocrite!
Selective quoting from Wiki, the claim that MEMRI selectively quote Islamic media...

Well played, nicely shoehorning whatever anti Israeli agenda you're pedaling

Here's the entire paragraph in case anyone gives one:

MEMRI states that its goal is to "bridge the language gap between the Middle East and the West."[2] It has been praised as an "invaluable" resource[3] and for helping to "shine a spotlight on hate speech wherever it appears".[4] Critics charge that despite portraying itself as neutral,[5] it aims to portray the Arab and Muslim world in a negative light through the production and dissemination of incomplete translations and by selectively translating views of extremists while deemphasizing or ignoring mainstream opinions.

Zerbini Blewitt

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

You absolute hypocrite!
Selective quoting from Wiki, the claim that MEMRI selectively quote Islamic media...

I couldn’t give two shytes how Memri describes itself. It’s a cynical Israeli propaganda outfit.

Claiming that I am being somehow hypocritical is laughable cluelessness.

A Little Pony

Army_of_One wrote: »

jacksie66 wrote: »

Islamaphobia isn't a word.

You're correct...but Islamophobia is.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/islamophobia

Which proves what? Nothing wrong with being "Islamophobic".

Roger Hassenforder

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I couldn’t give two shytes how Memri describes itself. It’s a cynical Israeli propaganda outfit.

Claiming that I am being somehow hypocritical is laughable cluelessness.

"Couldn't give two shytes'" yet you're the one to introduce them into.this with a 'description"

"laughable cluelessness"
How will I ever recover from such a rejoinder...

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
That's hypocrisy. FYI

1/10 must try harder

Odhinn

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
............r

..............he searches Israeli media for extremist comments fulltime?

gitzy16v

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

This story suspiciously fitted a familiar blueprint so I checked and Yep, sure enough this was published on Memri (an institute co-founded in 1998 by Yigal Carmon, a former Israeli military intelligence officer and Meyrav Wurmser, an Israeli-born American political scientist) & probably picked up by the Indo from there.



One has got to hand it to the the Israelis:-

relentlessly trying to draw the world (by every means) onto their side of their vile ethnic cleansing project for the last 70 years.

So is it fake news then?

Roger Hassenforder

Odhinn wrote: »

..............he searches Israeli media for extremist comments fulltime?

No, he selectively quotes Wiki to criticise them for selectively quoting Islamic media!
Two of them at it

mfceiling

That's desperately awful to come out with such rubbish. I'd like to see the pyramids but there's no way I'd visit Egypt. You'd want to be mad to head there...even worse if you went on holidays and just happened to find yourself addressing a large crowd of people. You'd end up getting shot and suffering 4 years of torture in prison.

Zerbini Blewitt

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

If you're going to accuse someone of something, don't do the exact same thing you're accusing them of.
That's hypocrisy. FYI

1/10 must try harder

I give you 10/10 for lightweight pedantry on an irrelevance (the wiki article)

gitzy16v wrote: »

So is it fake news then?

I don't think so.

Roger Hassenforder

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I give you 10/10 for lightweight pedantry on an irrelevance (the wiki article)


I don't think so.

You brought it up! And then selectively quoted it...
(10/10 for Roger. *Dabs)

Anyway, moving on, it's not fake news?
So it's true?

gitzy16v

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I don't think so.

So what's the difference who reported it?

Roger Hassenforder

gitzy16v wrote: »

So what's the difference who reported it?

Nailed it.

Zerbini Blewitt

gitzy16v wrote: »

So what's the difference who reported it?

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

gitzy16v

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

It's not fake news so it doesn't matter who reported it.
Makes no difference if the original reporting agency has an agenda.
The story's real,everything you posted is speculation and opinion.
Scum like this Egyptian should be shown up for what they are...scum..
If it takes some Israeli intelligence service to do it then so be it.
Seems you've more of an issue with the source than the content.

Roger Hassenforder

Zerbini Blewitt wrote: »

I’ve looked at hundreds of video clips on Memri in the past and formed my own opinion that its sole objective is to create disgust & animosity in the West towards the Muslim world.

Of course, any media organisation can report anything they want – and this story might have surfaced in Western media in any event.

But wouldn’t it be a shame to not give the Israeli intelligence service some modicum of credit for their diligent work stirring the pot of hatred in the world (to their advantage) with thousands of carefully selected clips like this published each year.

Shoot the messenger

HonalD

So have any of you experts been to Egypt or met or spoken to Egyptians? Or are you pulling your comments out of the air?

wakka12

HonalD wrote: »

So have any of you experts been to Egypt or met or spoken to Egyptians? Or are you pulling your comments out of the air?

A 2008 study found that 83 per cent of Egyptian women said they had been sexually harassed and 53 per cent of men blamed women for “bringing it on themselves”

Do we need to go there to find out its a completely messed up society?