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  • #32
    server down
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭server down


    murpho999 wrote: »
    All those things you list can also be kept private using the likes of Apple Pay you wish. Apps like Boon are just like having electronic wallet that you add cash too and you shop with that. Only total withdrawal would show on your bank just like a cash withdrawal would now.

    You know what. You do that and let people who want cash use cash.


  • #33
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    murpho999 wrote: »
    What privacy do you face and who would care what you buy?

    Do you go around a shop blanket over the trolley?

    A whole lot of people in the financial and corporate world care about what you buy.


  • #34
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Would you rather we'd stayed with manually lit gas streetlighting, and manual typewriters instead of computers?

    As the population ages, the jobs will just change. More need to for caregivers, less for checkout operators.

    of course we have to move with the times. I'm not saying not to improve our selves. I myself use all kinds of electric tools over older and more manual ones.
    that doesn't mean that I would want some large corporation to build a large CNC machine that can build houses without my or others input and hard work.


    we need jobs for the lower skilled in our society and for part timers
    some people just want a job for a few years while there dream gets closer or they are in collage etc.


  • #35
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    I'll be cracking one off to this later


  • #36
    OnDraught
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭OnDraught


    Ted Kaczynski would turn in his grave were he alive to witness this.


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  • #37
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    A whole lot of people in the financial and corporate world care about what you buy.

    Yes, but cash is never used for large value items. Cards and bank transfers have been around for decades. How often would you spend more than 100 euro in cash on a single transaction?
    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    of course we have to move with the times. I'm not saying not to improve our selves. I myself use all kinds of electric tools over older and more manual ones.
    that doesn't mean that I would want some large corporation to build a large CNC machine that can build houses without my or others input and hard work.

    we need jobs for the lower skilled in our society and for part timers
    some people just want a job for a few years while there dream gets closer or they are in collage etc.

    That's just not going to happen. Even if you want a basic job in a shop you need a decent leaving cert and a bit of luck. We live in very interesting times right now regarding employment. Most people don't want to see the automation revolution right around the corner, but it's going to happen one way or another.


  • #38
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    eeguy wrote: »
    Yes, but cash is never used for large value items. Cards and bank transfers have been around for decades. How often would you spend more than 100 euro in cash on a single transaction?



    That's just not going to happen. Even if you want a basic job in a shop you need a decent leaving cert and a bit of luck. We live in very interesting times right now regarding employment. Most people don't want to see the automation revolution right around the corner, but it's going to happen one way or another.

    Well I think if the revolution causes widespread unemployment then there will be a boycott of corporations that use robots instead over human workers, or governments will force companies to have a certain percentage of human to robot worker ratio.

    Also Ive worked in a few shops,cafes,bars and resturants and never once needed any proof of having done the leaving cert..


  • #39
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well I think if the revolution causes widespread unemployment then there will be a boycott of corporations that use robots instead over human workers, or governments will force companies to have a certain percentage of human to robot worker ratio.

    Also Ive worked in a few shops,cafes,bars and resturants and never once needed any proof of having done the leaving cert..

    Tell that to Tesla.
    Tell that to Amazon.
    Tell that to Google.

    Also Im talking about your first student job, a la the post i quoted.
    Obviously experience in a few shops cafes bars and restaurants would trump a leaving cert(if you're going for similar work)


  • #40
    zetalambda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭zetalambda


    The Highwayman wrote: »
    I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

    Cashless transactions are what the world is moving towards. In Sweden, less than 20% of store payments are paid for with cash and increasing numbers of shops have signs that say "We don't accept cash".

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41095004


  • #41
    paulbok
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,373 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Amazon have a similar shop in the US for their own employees. Worked well until it came to staff leaving goods back on the shelf.

    But apart from that and possibly others around the world, we have the first don't we?
    Go Ireland!


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  • #42
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is


  • #43
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Makes you think of the Mark of the Beast, as prophesied in the Book of Revelation in the Bible


  • #44
    zetalambda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭zetalambda


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is

    Only for criminals and money launders or anybody trying to dodge tax.


  • #45
    Harika
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,667 ✭✭✭Harika


    zetalambda wrote: »
    Only for criminals and money launders or anybody trying to dodge tax.

    What do you have to hide? If you have nothing to hide, why do you worry? Let me in your house and have a look around, as you are a law abiding citizen, there is no reason I cannot have a look everywhere.


  • #46
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    The only job that has been made redundant in the world is a lift attendant out of all the jobs in the world that is the only one that has been 100% got rid of. We worry about machines stealing our jobs but they still have a long way to go to taking all of our jobs.

    Or do what alot of us do work in a job looking after the machines.


  • #47
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Steve F


    The Highwayman wrote: »
    I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

    :D


  • #48
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    Harika wrote: »
    What do you have to hide? If you have nothing to hide, why do you worry? Let me in your house and have a look around, as you are a law abiding citizen, there is no reason I cannot have a look everywhere.

    Come on in, I'll make you a cup of tea


  • #49
    server down
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    afatbollix wrote: »
    The only job that has been made redundant in the world is a lift attendant out of all the jobs in the world that is the only one that has been 100% got rid of. We worry about machines stealing our jobs but they still have a long way to go to taking all of our jobs.

    Or do what alot of us do work in a job looking after the machines.

    I am sure there are loads of jobs related to horses that might exist but barely exist.

    If AI does in fact make its potential, we will be the horses of this revolution. The early industrial revolution replaced the muscle power of horses with the muscle power of automobiles.

    If driverless cars become a thing, drivers go the way of horses, and if AI can replace most jobs then we are the new horses of this revolution. The problem for capitalism is that if we don't work we don't spend.


  • #50
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

    We've been hearing this same crap since the industrial revolution. It's about time we noticed it doesn't work this way. Steam engines would take our jobs, internal combustion, computers, robots - all our jobs are doomed. Yet here I am, a full 250 years after james watts patent - stuck in work!
    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is

    Why?


  • #51
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
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    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    We've been hearing this same crap since the industrial revolution. It's about time we noticed it doesn't work this way. Steam engines would take our jobs, internal combustion, computers, robots - all our jobs are doomed. Yet here I am, a full 250 years after james watts patent - stuck in work!

    That technology came in and spread over other industries slowly and over many years. It gave time for the human population to create and fill new roles.

    This time it is different in that it could happen seemingly overnight. You wake up tomorrow and your car drives itself, your house cleans itself and your carer is an AI. Doesn't sound too bad actually :)

    Personally I think that a sudden influx of robots replacing jobs will cause massive worldwide problems. The world is going to crash.


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  • #52
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    We've been hearing this same crap since the industrial revolution. It's about time we noticed it doesn't work this way. Steam engines would take our jobs, internal combustion, computers, robots - all our jobs are doomed. Yet here I am, a full 250 years after james watts patent - stuck in work!

    a lot of those are efficiencies that make our jobs easier. they do take some jobs but leave lots of jobs.
    this full scale automation will take all skilled and hands on jobs eventually.


    we need to stand up now before its too late.


  • #53
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Cina wrote: »
    Christ, Corkonian's will be renaming the place Silicon Cork now, leading tech hub of the world.

    Chalk it down!


  • #54
    Cordell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,641 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Gerrup Outta Dat! wrote: »
    Albert Einstein once said,”I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots”.

    He also said "There will be a day people will misquote me on the Internet"

    https://www.snopes.com/einstein-technology-quote/


  • #55
    BrokenArrows
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    Gerrup Outta Dat! wrote: »
    Albert Einstein once said,”I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots”.

    Einstein never said that. Its just a facebook picture and quote myth.
    That doesnt mean its not true though!!

    "One small step for man, One giant leap for mankind." - BrokenArrows
    One like = One Love :D


  • #56
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    a lot of those are efficiencies that make our jobs easier. they do take some jobs but leave lots of jobs.
    this full scale automation will take all skilled and hands on jobs eventually.


    we need to stand up now before its too late.
    Stand up against what? Change? Technology? Good luck there. The world moves ever on and its up to us to adapt to it.

    Just get yourself a job that's creative and not routine based and you'll be grand.


  • #57
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    a lot of those are efficiencies that make our jobs easier. they do take some jobs but leave lots of jobs.
    this full scale automation will take all skilled and hands on jobs eventually.


    we need to stand up now before its too late.

    That's what they said 250 years ago!
    Colt Poor Teammate wrote: »
    That technology came in and spread over other industries slowly and over many years. It gave time for the human population to create and fill new roles.

    This time it is different in that it could happen seemingly overnight. You wake up tomorrow and your car drives itself, your house cleans itself and your carer is an AI. Doesn't sound too bad actually :)

    Personally I think that a sudden influx of robots replacing jobs will cause massive worldwide problems. The world is going to crash.

    I think the real problem with AI is not that it will take our jobs, it's more that it's intelligence will develop exponentially and we'll inevitably reach the point where 1 days or 1 minutes AI development is the difference between us and Neanderthals. That could be 1000 years from now or it could be a thousand days. At the current rate of progress though it looks like a lot closer to a thousand days than years I think!
    At that point it could well view us much like we view bacteria.

    AI if done correctly could be amazing for humanity - but look at all our technology - what drives it is generally is our ingrained blood lust. AI is probably a pandoras box in my opinion. At least we can plug the other shít out if things get really hairy, this one has the possibility of saying no!


  • #58
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    eeguy wrote: »
    Stand up against what? Change? Technology? Good luck there. The world moves ever on and its up to us to adapt to it.

    Just get yourself a job that's creative and not routine based and you'll be grand.

    can you point me in the direction of a job that cannot be taken away by automation. I doubt it

    I don't mind change when its for the better. this isnt


  • #59
    eeguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭eeguy


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    can you point me in the direction of a job that cannot be taken away by automation. I doubt it

    I don't mind change when its for the better. this isnt

    Hairdresser is one that comes to mind. Most of the trades. Nearly everything to do with design. Chef and most restaurant staff...

    Plenty of jobs.


  • #60
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    That's what they said 250 years ago!

    I'm sure they did. and they were right.
    back then it was only an odd job lost but loads of jobs created by it. 1% lost and 50% created

    now its maybe 95% jobs lost and only 20% created

    the speed at which its happening is scary. 10 years has wiped out whole industries of jobs


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  • #61
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    eeguy wrote: »
    Hairdresser is one that comes to mind. Most of the trades. Nearly everything to do with design. Chef and most restaurant staff...

    Plenty of jobs.

    you couldn't be more wrong. trades are dead. automation is killing it and about to kill it completely. when houses are factory built there will be no need for most trades,. CNCs will build everything

    chefs will be a thing of the past eventually. its an easy job for a computer to do.
    probably able to automate it and get serious savings out of it. compare a kitchen to a automated production line and its obvious there are loads of room to shed humans from it

    when the kitchen is automated the restaurant will the laid out to suite that with conveyer systems to remove any waiting staff


    hair dressing is a trickier one but I'm sure it could be done a lot more efficiently with lasers etc to the point that 1 operator could cut loads of people at the same time


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