Worlds first checkout free shop to open in Ireland

Rhys Essien

Need never have to worry about the wallet again.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/business/worlds-first-checkout-free-shop-to-open-in-cork-812144.html

Cina

world's first cashier-less shop is set to open in Cork

Christ, Corkonian's will be renaming the place Silicon Cork now, leading tech hub of the world.

Hande hoche!

Will stick to using self service checkouts, at night and with a hat on. Can't be too careful with big brother.

branie2

Sounds interesting

Not sure of that pic with the fellow clutching his bottle of orange and sandwich. He looks...bemused.

Kermit.de.frog

Putting it in Tallaght might provide for a more robust test environment? Population size and all that.

Wrap yourself in tinfoil and rob the place blind.

Or just don't have a bank account?

Or Johnny goes into the shop, and throws the stuff out the door to Jimmy?


There may not be a checkout operator but I'm confident there'll be a security guard. Can't have nice things, remember. The scumbags ruin it.

The Highwayman

I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

Hande hoche!

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure of that pic with the fellow clutching his bottle of orange and sandwich. He looks...bemused.

He probably would have preferred a bottle of Tanora.

Fr_Dougal

Amazon have a similar shop in the US for their own employees. Worked well until it came to staff leaving goods back on the shelf.

the_pen_turner

cant see it working. on several fronts

what happens if 30 people walk in together and start picking up and putting down items. surely loads of stuff wont be spotted

what happens when you put something back in the wrong place ( horrible thing to do I know)

how will it know you picked up 1 instead of 2 small items.

the scumbags will love this and find dozens of ways around this.

what happens when the system screws up and charges for stuff that you didn't get

how will it cope with similar looking people

what happens if twins dressed the same walk into the shop

Are Am Eye

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Putting it in Tallaght might provide for a more robust test environment? Population size and all that.

The locals have been experimenting with the checkout free shopping experience for decades.

the_pen_turner

what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

Gerrup Outta Dat!

Albert Einstein once said,”I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots”.

Mrs OBumble

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

Would you rather we'd stayed with manually lit gas streetlighting, and manual typewriters instead of computers?

As the population ages, the jobs will just change. More need to for caregivers, less for checkout operators.

Jayop

The Highwayman wrote: »

I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

I know I should agree with you, but cards are just so damn handy man.

murpho999

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

What about the jobs involved in creating this technology?

Do you still think there will be no people working in the stores?

murpho999

The Highwayman wrote: »

I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

What so vital about cash? Bits of paper that can be lost and coins that put holes in your pockets.

Cashless is the future and it's coming and won't be stopped. Using phones to pay is already quicker and safer than cards or cash so I don't get why people would be against it.

dublinman1990

I watched a piece about checkout free shops before on BBC Click over the summer. I can't find the video for it but I'm actually surprised that Ireland is going to be the very first country in the world to get a business like this one. In all honesty; this is not a bad venture in itself. But; I would be skeptical in how a business like this one will be viable because it makes process of someone finding a job a little bit harder as the years go on.

Ipso

Gerrup Outta Dat! wrote: »

Albert Einstein once said,”I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots”.

Or did he just say it on facebook.

server down

Gerrup Outta Dat! wrote: »

Albert Einstein once said,”I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction, the world will have a generation of idiots”.

Albert Einstein also said “I didn’t say half the bollocks ascribed to me on the internet”

server down

murpho999 wrote: »

What so vital about cash? Bits of paper that can be lost and coins that put holes in your pockets.

Cashless is the future and it's coming and won't be stopped. Using phones to pay is already quicker and safer than cards or cash so I don't get why people would be against it.

Many reasons. Privacy of any individual transaction for one.

Rubberchikken

Machines smarter than checkout operators. Never happen:p

Harika

murpho999 wrote: »

What about the jobs involved in creating this technology?

Do you still think there will be no people working in the stores?

People need to clean spillage, stock the shelves and maintain and repair the technical side of the shop.

wakka12

It might sound cool and futuristic but just remmber the owner/founder of this shop had no other motive other than cutting jobs so doesnt have to spend as much money on running costs. More money in a big chain owners pocket and less people with jobs

Not very cool in my books

And how is this worlds first? Japan is well know for them being common place there

murpho999

server down wrote: »

Many reasons. Privacy of any individual transaction for one.

What privacy do you face and who would care what you buy?

Do you go around a shop blanket over the trolley?

Vronsky

dublinman1990 wrote: »

I watched a piece about checkout free shops before on BBC Click over the summer. I can't find the video for it but I'm actually surprised that Ireland is going to be the very first country in the world to get a business like this one. In all honesty; this is not a bad venture in itself. But; I would be skeptical in how a business like this one will be viable because it makes process of someone finding a job a little bit harder as the years go on.

It's a far more viable proposition than a regular shop, lower staff costs, no cash handling costs. Don't right, something like this could be extremely profitable.

The technology would have to be very robust though.

wakka12

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Would you rather we'd stayed with manually lit gas streetlighting, and manual typewriters instead of computers?

As the population ages, the jobs will just change. More need to for caregivers, less for checkout operators.

The jobs wont change though. There will be less of them..lots of scientists are talking about this. It is an exceptional event..not everything in our lifetime always has to have precedent in human history, such as man made climate change

A very large percentage of our population work in retail and construction which are two indsutries which look extremely likely to become almost exclusively autmoated. What jobs are these people going to get instead? all become virtual reality game designers? As I said, theres simply a large amount of the workforce which will become obsolete due to robotics

server down

murpho999 wrote: »

What privacy do you face and who would care what you buy?

Do you go around a shop blanket over the trolley?

Yes I do, who doesn’t?. But enough about me and your straw man personalised attacks, when I said “some people”.

There are all kinds of reasons why some people might want to use cash to hide their purchases from their wife, the bank, or the authorities.

(To the hard of thinking some people is not a me).

511

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

Yet we'll still have defenders of mass-immigration telling us the we need immigrants to do the jobs the Irish won't. This was one of the biggest lies propagated during the European migration crisis. Foreigners already have lower employments rates compared to ethnic Irish: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/number-granted-irish-citizenship-in-2015-half-that-of-peak-1.2992509

Employment rates in 2015 were similar but slightly higher for Irish nationals (63 per cent) than non-Irish nationals (60 per cent). However, the employment rate varied across national groups and was “very low” for African nationals (about 40 per cent).

This is only going to get worse.

murpho999

server down wrote: »

Yes I do, who doesn’t?. But enough about me and your straw man personalised attacks, when I said “some people”.

There are all kinds of reasons why some people might want to use cash to hide their purchases from their wife, the bank, or the authorities.

(To the hard of thinking some people is not a me).

All those things you list can also be kept private using the likes of Apple Pay you wish. Apps like Boon are just like having electronic wallet that you add cash too and you shop with that. Only total withdrawal would show on your bank just like a cash withdrawal would now.

server down

murpho999 wrote: »

All those things you list can also be kept private using the likes of Apple Pay you wish. Apps like Boon are just like having electronic wallet that you add cash too and you shop with that. Only total withdrawal would show on your bank just like a cash withdrawal would now.

You know what. You do that and let people who want cash use cash.

Atoms for Peace

murpho999 wrote: »

What privacy do you face and who would care what you buy?

Do you go around a shop blanket over the trolley?

A whole lot of people in the financial and corporate world care about what you buy.

the_pen_turner

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Would you rather we'd stayed with manually lit gas streetlighting, and manual typewriters instead of computers?

As the population ages, the jobs will just change. More need to for caregivers, less for checkout operators.

of course we have to move with the times. I'm not saying not to improve our selves. I myself use all kinds of electric tools over older and more manual ones.
that doesn't mean that I would want some large corporation to build a large CNC machine that can build houses without my or others input and hard work.


we need jobs for the lower skilled in our society and for part timers
some people just want a job for a few years while there dream gets closer or they are in collage etc.

Hector Bellend

I'll be cracking one off to this later

OnDraught

Ted Kaczynski would turn in his grave were he alive to witness this.

eeguy

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

A whole lot of people in the financial and corporate world care about what you buy.

Yes, but cash is never used for large value items. Cards and bank transfers have been around for decades. How often would you spend more than 100 euro in cash on a single transaction?

the_pen_turner wrote: »

of course we have to move with the times. I'm not saying not to improve our selves. I myself use all kinds of electric tools over older and more manual ones.
that doesn't mean that I would want some large corporation to build a large CNC machine that can build houses without my or others input and hard work.

we need jobs for the lower skilled in our society and for part timers
some people just want a job for a few years while there dream gets closer or they are in collage etc.

That's just not going to happen. Even if you want a basic job in a shop you need a decent leaving cert and a bit of luck. We live in very interesting times right now regarding employment. Most people don't want to see the automation revolution right around the corner, but it's going to happen one way or another.

wakka12

eeguy wrote: »

Yes, but cash is never used for large value items. Cards and bank transfers have been around for decades. How often would you spend more than 100 euro in cash on a single transaction?



That's just not going to happen. Even if you want a basic job in a shop you need a decent leaving cert and a bit of luck. We live in very interesting times right now regarding employment. Most people don't want to see the automation revolution right around the corner, but it's going to happen one way or another.

Well I think if the revolution causes widespread unemployment then there will be a boycott of corporations that use robots instead over human workers, or governments will force companies to have a certain percentage of human to robot worker ratio.

Also Ive worked in a few shops,cafes,bars and resturants and never once needed any proof of having done the leaving cert..

eeguy

wakka12 wrote: »

Well I think if the revolution causes widespread unemployment then there will be a boycott of corporations that use robots instead over human workers, or governments will force companies to have a certain percentage of human to robot worker ratio.

Also Ive worked in a few shops,cafes,bars and resturants and never once needed any proof of having done the leaving cert..

Tell that to Tesla.
Tell that to Amazon.
Tell that to Google.

Also Im talking about your first student job, a la the post i quoted.
Obviously experience in a few shops cafes bars and restaurants would trump a leaving cert(if you're going for similar work)

zetalambda

The Highwayman wrote: »

I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

Cashless transactions are what the world is moving towards. In Sweden, less than 20% of store payments are paid for with cash and increasing numbers of shops have signs that say "We don't accept cash".

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41095004

paulbok

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Amazon have a similar shop in the US for their own employees. Worked well until it came to staff leaving goods back on the shelf.

But apart from that and possibly others around the world, we have the first don't we?
Go Ireland!

SEPT 23 1989

A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is

branie2

Makes you think of the Mark of the Beast, as prophesied in the Book of Revelation in the Bible

zetalambda

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is

Only for criminals and money launders or anybody trying to dodge tax.

Harika

zetalambda wrote: »

Only for criminals and money launders or anybody trying to dodge tax.

What do you have to hide? If you have nothing to hide, why do you worry? Let me in your house and have a look around, as you are a law abiding citizen, there is no reason I cannot have a look everywhere.

afatbollix

The only job that has been made redundant in the world is a lift attendant out of all the jobs in the world that is the only one that has been 100% got rid of. We worry about machines stealing our jobs but they still have a long way to go to taking all of our jobs.

Or do what alot of us do work in a job looking after the machines.

Steve F

The Highwayman wrote: »

I absolutely will never use a shop like this. Cash in your pocket is vitally important. The cashless society advocates are the creepiest globalist there are.

eeguy

Harika wrote: »

What do you have to hide? If you have nothing to hide, why do you worry? Let me in your house and have a look around, as you are a law abiding citizen, there is no reason I cannot have a look everywhere.

Come on in, I'll make you a cup of tea

server down

afatbollix wrote: »

The only job that has been made redundant in the world is a lift attendant out of all the jobs in the world that is the only one that has been 100% got rid of. We worry about machines stealing our jobs but they still have a long way to go to taking all of our jobs.

Or do what alot of us do work in a job looking after the machines.

I am sure there are loads of jobs related to horses that might exist but barely exist.

If AI does in fact make its potential, we will be the horses of this revolution. The early industrial revolution replaced the muscle power of horses with the muscle power of automobiles.

If driverless cars become a thing, drivers go the way of horses, and if AI can replace most jobs then we are the new horses of this revolution. The problem for capitalism is that if we don't work we don't spend.

sbsquarepants

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what annoys me about this , is that it is another way to get rid of employees. eventually there wont be any where for people to work. most jobs are riddled with this. I know its great for business but creating jobs is important too

We've been hearing this same crap since the industrial revolution. It's about time we noticed it doesn't work this way. Steam engines would take our jobs, internal combustion, computers, robots - all our jobs are doomed. Yet here I am, a full 250 years after james watts patent - stuck in work!

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

A Cashless society is the stuff of nightmares hopefully there will be a backlash when the wider society sees it for what it really is

Why?

pxdf9i5cmoavkz

sbsquarepants wrote: »

We've been hearing this same crap since the industrial revolution. It's about time we noticed it doesn't work this way. Steam engines would take our jobs, internal combustion, computers, robots - all our jobs are doomed. Yet here I am, a full 250 years after james watts patent - stuck in work!

That technology came in and spread over other industries slowly and over many years. It gave time for the human population to create and fill new roles.

This time it is different in that it could happen seemingly overnight. You wake up tomorrow and your car drives itself, your house cleans itself and your carer is an AI. Doesn't sound too bad actually

Personally I think that a sudden influx of robots replacing jobs will cause massive worldwide problems. The world is going to crash.