Do you think Euthanasia will ever be legal in Ireland?

lazybones32 wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

Oh it did happen , I'm nearly certain it was Holland, it's the way it's trivialized by the poster by not providing details.
It's to go before a court not to prosecute but to seek clarity.

Trivialized? Moi?
I think it scary that a doctor decides to sedate a patient in order to kill them but to get her family members to hold her down too...and they comply.

Anything but trivial but i'm not a journalist, so i don't have to write reverently.

Oh I dunno , trivialized because of lack of detail , the LOL thrown in or even your own little Moi comment smacks of an attempt of humour or sarcasm.

server down wrote: »

lazybones32 wrote: »

Read the first line. I'm on the phone so I CAN'T LINK. And it isn't up to me to teach you how to use the fcuking internet, is it?

Apparently though that does work the other way

I’m on the phone. Here’s a link.

www.google.com

Lol

The problem I have with all this is I have seen where medical professionals decide for a patient that it's their time to die, even if it's against there wishes.

Patients should be allowed to decide this and not have if enforced on them.

The nursing homes in this country make so much money every month from keeping people somewhat alive for as long as possible while draining thousands a month from the patient and their family's' bank accounts that I doubt it will happen any time soon.

No doubt they have already signaled the government that they don't want it brought in so the only way it could happen really is if d'EU decided to bring it in for us.

I would like to see it someday somehow, for many reasons. Not least being that if the concept of ownership or possession is to mean anything to me in this world, then I must at minimum own my own life and the decisions of what I want to do with it, including end it.

I have read the arguments "against" it in the past many times and they are all arguments against it being done badly, not against it being done at all. Arguments that people might be pressured into it (post #81 above for example) or people seeking it for what we deem to be the "wrong" reasons.

But arguments against the principle itself, that people should be able to choose to die, and be supported in the decision and it's execution, appear thin on the ground. I can not think of one myself to be honest.

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

How can they pressured into doing it?

I suppose if I was lying in a hospital bed and I was terminally ill and in pain.......... and my loved one(s) came to me saying.......

"Oh my love, seeing you in pain is so awful for us, we are suffering so much watching you like this, would you not consider the option of............."

........ I would feel somewhat pressured by that. Now you can argue it would be poor form for them to do, immoral even and so on and so on. But at the end of the day I would feel some level of pressure from that.

To name but one example. I am all for Euthanisia myself but I can certainly see how people might feel pressure to use it.

Not sure how medical insurance might work with it too for example. If keeping someone alive is very costly in certain circumstances, and them taking the assisted death route much cheaper........ could they through policy or premiums word contracts in such a way that in some situations they would withhold paying out on the policy if the cheaper "right to die" option were not taken?

That I know admittedly little about, but my imagination runs riot on it. But I suspect that I as a medical insurance consumer might happily take a cheaper policy if it stipulated that a certain level of ongoing pain medication would negate my contract. And I would take the cheaper policy in the knowledge that, were I to reach that level of ongoing pain, I am someone who would likely choose death instead of trying to mediate it.