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JP Liz V1 · 23-10-2017 11:04PM

Lesnar and Heyman back tonight

Braun face turn tonight?

CastorTroy · 24-10-2017 12:04AM

Just keep him as a guy who will attack everyone.

Jerichoholic · 24-10-2017 12:38AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Lesnar and Heyman back tonight

Braun face turn tonight?

Braun was murdered last night with a bin lorry.

PTH2009 · 24-10-2017 12:51AM

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Braun was murdered last night with a bin lorry.

Few plasters and he be grand

Hope he's not sick too

PTH2009 · 24-10-2017 01:08AM

**** shake why are they bothering calling SD Dec PPV 'clash of Champions" when most of the champs are fighting at Survivor Series a month earlier???

seandotcomm · 24-10-2017 01:19AM

Wonder if they'll have Paige return to even out one of the women's teams at Survivor Series?

PTH2009 · 24-10-2017 01:52AM

Kane is getting pushed as strong as ever and it's almost 2018 ???

So the demon Finn is going to be his victim now

J. Marston · 24-10-2017 02:04AM

Finn beats the Best in the World last night in AJ.

Loses clean to a bum like Kane tonight.

I'm out.

seandotcomm · 24-10-2017 04:07AM

attack of the mid carders.....

Bret Hart · 24-10-2017 04:26AM

That escalated quickly.

HandsomeBob · 24-10-2017 10:05AM

J. Marston wrote: »

Finn beats the Best in the World last night in AJ.

Loses clean to a bum like Kane tonight.

I'm out.

3 chokeslams but yeah, it's not good. Sunday night could be used as a catapult for Finn as he looked like pure money for the first time since being called up. Would be unfortunate to see it go to nothing.

Angron · 24-10-2017 10:08AM

I really hope that they quietly just scrap Finn's feud with Bray now, and let him move on.

Lord TSC · 24-10-2017 10:30AM

I'm not shocked Kane beat Finn; if they are doing Kane vs Brawn, they really had to have Kane go well over someone decent, to make him look strong enough to stand against Brawn.

I really enjoyed the end segment, in a "Don't think bout the fact the white meat babyfaces New Day and Becky Lynch led a lynch mob against people" way. Gable attacking Jordon so eagerly, Ambrose and Rollins bravely trying to launch an ambush, Rusev on the table. Loads of funny little moments. Also gives the likes of Owens/Zayn a load to work with on Smackdown as well.

J. Marston · 24-10-2017 10:31AM

I think Alicia was the best thing about that Raw.

Bayley/Sasha might be the better wrestlers but Foxy is infinitely more entertaining than both.

Also her Belly to Belly looked better than Bayley's.

Angron · 24-10-2017 10:35AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'm not shocked Kane beat Finn; if they are doing Kane vs Brawn, they really had to have Kane go well over someone decent, to make him look strong enough to stand against Brawn.

I really enjoyed the end segment, in a "Don't think bout the fact the white meat babyfaces New Day and Becky Lynch led a lynch mob against people" way. Gable attacking Jordon so eagerly, Ambrose and Rollins bravely trying to launch an ambush, Rusev on the table. Loads of funny little moments. Also gives the likes of Owens/Zayn a load to work with on Smackdown as well.

I haven't seen it, but when I was reading the summary of Raw on the app I found it comical that they specified Baron took out some random backstage worker, and not an actual wrestler :pac:

Lord TSC · 24-10-2017 11:20AM

Meltzer on the Kane/Finn "match"

https://streamable.com/a7bia

J. Marston · 24-10-2017 11:56AM

Elias gave Jordan some flake with the guitar. There was no faking that immediate bruising.

Jerichoholic · 24-10-2017 02:01PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'm not shocked Kane beat Finn; if they are doing Kane vs Brawn, they really had to have Kane go well over someone decent, to make him look strong enough to stand against Brawn.

There's no excuse for that. Abysmal booking. Kane could have beaten anyone else at all, not a guy who got a bigger reaction for his match than anyone this year the night before.

Gotta keep Kane strong for Braun, so Braun is strong for Lesnar, so Lesnar is strong for Roman, and Roman can get the win.

Furious-Red · 24-10-2017 02:47PM

They could have Finn beat Kane and then have him attack him post match . Just watched a recap of Raw on youtube and loved the Smackdown invasion thing imo

Neil3030 · 24-10-2017 03:13PM

I guess their long term thinking on Finn is that the Demon can beat anyone, but Finn is otherwise a mid-card j-brone.

Angron · 24-10-2017 03:15PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

I guess their long term thinking on Finn is that the Demon can beat anyone, but Finn is otherwise a mid-card j-brone.

Which is a bit sad, but I could well see that being the logic they use.

JP Liz V1 · 24-10-2017 03:35PM

Why don't they give Miz a shot at Lesnar, it be new

Bounty Hunter · 24-10-2017 03:45PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why don't they give Miz a shot at Lesnar, it be new

tbh I am happy with how they have been using The Miz recently. He has been excelling as the "Leader" of the bad guys

Jerichoholic · 24-10-2017 03:52PM

Neil3030 wrote: »

I guess their long term thinking on Finn is that the Demon can beat anyone, but Finn is otherwise a mid-card j-brone.

You're giving them way too much credit.

JP Liz V1 · 24-10-2017 04:04PM

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

tbh I am happy with how they have been using The Miz recently. He has been excelling as the "Leader" of the bad guys

All better if he held the world Raw title too but with Lesnar out with top title I guess Miz's IC title is top

A Rogue Hobo · 24-10-2017 04:46PM

Meh, we've seen this brand invasion angle umpteenth times in the last ten years or so. It feels even more diluted this time considering half of the invaders were only drafted a few months ago in the shake up, and will probably jump back again within the calender year. I don't really buy where this brand loyalty is coming from all of a sudden with faces attacking faces and the likes of Baron/Tye/AJ being all smiles with one another (especially as AJ just teamed with the Shield and then attacks them) it all seems very short sighted, with the logic seemingly being "Well it's almost November, you're all friends now congratulations!!"

DM_7 · 24-10-2017 05:26PM

I think Finn can survive a loss or two and even the overall loss in a feud.

He is generally protected and should not be above losing.

The issue that it was Kane, I agree is annoying but Finn is supposed to be face, you have to lose as a face to eventually 'overcome' and win out by beating someone. If you win all the time you are no longer overcoming anything.

Also, as guy who got put over by AJ the night before, his NXT run and his start on the main roster he is due paying something back even to experienced guys.

He is well placed to give someone else a rub while not getting damaged by a few defeats.

Even the Golden Boys of Cena and Reigns get used to put others over.

Rock Lesnar · 24-10-2017 05:37PM

Apart from Ambrose and Rollins, smackdown attacked everybody who mean absolutely nothing, no Miz, Kane, Sheamus, Cesaro, Lesnar, or even Strowman, you can bet that when Raw goes to Smackdown, their top stars wont escape

Lord TSC · 24-10-2017 06:35PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

All better if he held the world Raw title too but with Lesnar out with top title I guess Miz's IC title is top

Clash of Champions is a Raw Ppv, right?

Given they are doing the brands against each other now, I wonder would they do WWE Universal Champ vs IC champ instead at CoC?

HandsomeBob · 24-10-2017 06:39PM

Not thrilled with the booking of Asuka thus far. I've seen people say she had her best matches with Emma in NXT but Emma and her position on Raw, and her position on NXT, are 2 very different things.

How does it help Asuka get over where she's having competitive matches with someone who has more or less been treated as a joke on Raw? Do we need just another competitor to add to the mix on Raw and do we need that IT Factor that Asuka brought to NXT?

I'm really concerned now that Asuka doesn't figure much in their long term plan going forward. Doesn't help that the commentators have been repeatedly banging on about the big leagues much like they did with Nakamura and now with Roode. It's mind boggling. Felt sorry for Corey, as you could feel that he was genuinely trying to make the best of what was being fed into his ear in order to make Asuka as big a deal as possible.

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