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Irish rail fancy a bit of the auld striking until i get my cash

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Nice bit of an aul public sector pay dispute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    bunch of auld shytebags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,273 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Specialun wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1020/913807-iarnrod-eireann-dispute/

    One of the strike days is ire vs denmark...maximum impact one there

    Really sick of the overpaid and under productive public sector striking the second things dont go their way

    How do you know they are overpaid and underproductive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Specialun wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1020/913807-iarnrod-eireann-dispute/

    One of the strike days is ire vs denmark...maximum impact one there

    Really sick of the overpaid and under productive public sector striking the second things dont go their way

    Surprised it's not the day after the match as well give them all a good lie in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,767 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Sure what's new with them.

    another whinge and get few days off for themselves, while people who actually want to work cant cause they wont.

    Thank Flip I don't have use Trains as my means of Transport.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    The drivers just need a platform from which to voice their
    industrial relations concerns. They may not have fully gauged
    public criticism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭TheShow


    They probably need a day to do the crimbo shopping.


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd hazard a guess the average joe can swap out a train with a bus fairly easily these days, with the motorway network as it is, and not be put out by much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    I'd hazard a guess the average joe can swap out a train with a bus fairly easily these days, with the motorway network as it is, and not be put out by much.

    The roads are not too bad now regarding long distances, you can get anywhere in the country now in a few hours and have the convenience of the car to come and go as you please. Don't know how much commuters will be put out though.
    I think the public will be angry because the staff are looking for pay rises while Irish Rail ran at a 160 million loss last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I'd hazard a guess the average joe can swap out a train with a bus fairly easily these days, with the motorway network as it is, and not be put out by much.

    You can probably get where you want once you're not too far from the city centre. And then its a combination of buses. And then you could be waiting because buses will be full since everyone has to get around on buses.

    So i guess it depends what you consider not being put out too much.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭Riva10


    As our TDs and judges are in line for a fat rise, why should not Irish Ráil employees any different.


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can probably get where you want once you're not too far from the city centre. And then its a combination of buses. And then you could be waiting because buses will be full since everyone has to get around on buses.

    So i guess it depends what you consider not being put out too much.


    If you're travelling any kind of a distance at all, to a big event, you'd get a private coach.

    Either organised by yourself, or by private companies who see the train strike as a great opportunity to make some cash. Be no shortage of buses dropping directly at the event/s on in the city.

    And you can be confident that if the rail strike lasts more than a day or two the public buses (BE/DB) will be off sick, too, with their sympathy strikes.


    Private operators will be sitting around humming Shane McMahon's theme tune:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Riva10 wrote: »
    As our TDs and judges are in line for a fat rise, why should not Irish Ráil employees any different.


    Why is everything compared to TD's salary in this country


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    Specialun wrote: »
    Why is everything compared to TD's salary in this country

    TDs can be voted out if they dont do a good job. These boyos are in it for life, productive or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Keith186


    Specialun wrote: »
    Why is everything compared to TD's salary in this country

    They're the benchmark of mediocrity so if they get a pay rise we all deserve one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Bizarre behavior from employees of a company drowning in debt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,013 ✭✭✭davycc


    Hopefully they get a fair pay increase asap so less people be affected by the strike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 790 ✭✭✭baylah17


    davycc wrote: »
    Hopefully they get a fair pay increase asap so less people be affected by the strike
    Fair would be a pay cut until the company stops running multi million deficits.
    Fair would be the Gov as the only shareholder just let Irish Rail go onto liquidation and let it be privatised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    8th of December? Wtf!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    davycc wrote: »
    Hopefully they get a fair pay increase asap so less people be affected by the strike

    And more affected by the (inevitable) fare increase


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    If you're travelling any kind of a distance at all, to a big event, you'd get a private coach.

    Either organised by yourself, or by private companies who see the train strike as a great opportunity to make some cash. Be no shortage of buses dropping directly at the event/s on in the city.

    And you can be confident that if the rail strike lasts more than a day or two the public buses (BE/DB) will be off sick, too, with their sympathy strikes.


    Private operators will be sitting around humming Shane McMahon's theme tune:


    If you're heading out of the city?

    Plenty of buses were too full to pick anyone up in city centre heading in the direction I work the last time there was a strike. And very few going out my direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭caff


    TDs can be voted out if they dont do a good job. These boyos are in it for life, productive or not
    You can vote them out but they get severance and a pension


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭caff


    Keith186 wrote: »
    They're the benchmark of mediocrity so if they get a pay rise we all deserve one.
    they benchmark themselves against private sector ceos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭caff


    Bizarre behavior from employees of a company drowning in debt
    If your removed the upkeep of the rail tracks similar to how you don't measure bus profits taking into account the cost if roads it would be a different story. Public transport doesn't have to make a profit. It is subsidised travel for customers and employees of business paid for by taxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    The rail network in Ireland is an embarrassment to the country. It's just so fucking drab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,341 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Specialun wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1020/913807-iarnrod-eireann-dispute/

    One of the strike days is ire vs denmark...maximum impact one there

    Really sick of the overpaid and under productive public sector striking the second things dont go their way

    They're not public sector. If they were, they would have taken pay cuts between 2010 and 2016 and had a pension levy imposed on them.

    Public sector pay rates are still below what they were in 2008. Irish Rail employees pay rates are not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    Bizarre behavior from employees of a company drowning in debt

    It is a public service company and as such was never intended to " make a profit " The only reason that it is drowning in debt is that the government subvention is simply not enough to run the service and pay the staff a decent wage.
    Companies like Dublin bus , irish rail , and bus Eireann are there as part of the structure of this country like roads , bridges ,parks , etc and were never intended to make a profit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭keith_sixteen


    Companies like Dublin bus , irish rail , and bus Eireann are there as part of the structure of this country like roads , bridges ,parks , etc and were never intended to make a profit.

    Well I have to agree that the likes of Irish rail certainly act in the same non-sentient way a bridge or a park would.

    A rail system that is just "there".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    Not once this week has the Dart in or out of work been less than 10 mins late. Its late every single day, either in or out, or both, but less than 10 mins seems to be taken as acceptable. The thought of paying more for this **** in any form turns my stomach


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭Riva10


    baylah17 wrote: »
    Fair would be a pay cut until the company stops running multi million deficits.
    Fair would be the Gov as the only shareholder just let Irish Rail go onto liquidation and let it be privatised.

    Fair would be to get rid of the management team who has allowed the debt to continue to increase.


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