#MeToo has caught on, good thing or bad thing ?

Hooks Golf Handicap · 20-10-2017 01:27PM #1

One side of the argument is that it empowers the victim to come forward, the ground swell of public opinion seems to be behind them.

The other side is the undermining the accused right to a fair defense.

What says Boards ?, a good thing or a bad thing.

A Little Pony · 20-10-2017 01:29PM

Another pointless social media nonsense which will be forgotten about in a few days time. Pretty much like #prayfor rubbish.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 20-10-2017 01:32PM

Some fella looked at my arse in Dunnes on Wednesday.

#MeToo

um7y1h83ge06nx · 20-10-2017 01:33PM

It will get to a stage soon where people will feel there is something wrong with them if they haven't been raped or sexually assaulted.

Hooks Golf Handicap · 20-10-2017 01:33PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Another pointless social media nonsense which will be forgotten about in a few days time. Pretty much like #prayfor rubbish.

I still have FB "friends" that have the opaque French Flag in their profile pic.

BillyBobBS · 20-10-2017 01:34PM

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Some fella looked at my arse in Dunnes on Wednesday.

#MeToo

I was admiring your jeans.

#dontlockmeup

Barry Badrinath · 20-10-2017 01:35PM

A girl eye fcuked me once #MeToo.

Assetbacked · 20-10-2017 01:35PM

#prayformetoo

me_irl · 20-10-2017 01:37PM

retro:electro · 20-10-2017 01:37PM

It seems a bit hollow to me. It's like the latest social media challenge but instead of getting a bucket of water over your head it's "hey everyone, let's all say we've been assaulted and let everyone speculate in the comments as to who it could be". I've seen people name people in the comments and this just seems so wrong to me.

To clarify: I think it's always a good idea to speak up about abuse and if people find comfort in the strength in numbers then I'm fine with that. But there are ways of doing these things- and trial by social media kangaroo court is not a fair way- IMO.

razorblunt · 20-10-2017 01:40PM

Extremely hollow for me, how can any of the claims be verified? There's band wagon jumping here too.
The acts that did occur are inexcusable but I think this trivialises those incidents.

It's like the actual claims against Weinstein, they were obviously numerous and solid enough for the story to break and have the effect that its had but then you have the likes of Brunker jumping on that and trying to grab attention, this #metoo feels similar in a way.

Donal55 · 20-10-2017 01:41PM

Rod Stewards bird this morning.
#HeresAnotherOne

20-10-2017 01:41PM

Would be nice if the OP told us what the significance of #MeToo is. Are we meant to guess? Just click an option at random maybe? Tell us what we're meant to get outraged at please.

Purple Mountain · 20-10-2017 01:41PM

Neknominations
Ice Bucket Challenge
No Make Up Selfie
#PrayFor
#MeToo

Are these all the modern day chain letters??

Hector Bellend · 20-10-2017 01:47PM

#haveawank

Donal55 · 20-10-2017 01:59PM

#U2

The_Valeyard · 20-10-2017 02:01PM

#prayformojo

20-10-2017 02:01PM

It's neither a good nor a bad thing, it's a fairly cheap and ambiguous expression of a very vague sentiment.

Hashtags eh

The_Valeyard · 20-10-2017 02:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's neither a good nor a bad thing, it's a fairly cheap and ambiguous expression of a very vague sentiment.

Hashtags eh

#Eh

wakka12 · 20-10-2017 02:05PM

ugh social media is the absolute worst

20-10-2017 02:06PM

If it gives people a way to talk about their sexual abuse - who might not have been able to before (for whatever reason), then surely it's a good thing?

__..__ · 20-10-2017 02:06PM

George Colossal Tomato wrote: »

It will get to a stage soon where people will feel there is something wrong with them if they haven't been raped or sexually assaulted.

I think we are at that stage.
One of the girls at work said today that she likes getting wolf whistles. Well I couldn't believe the attack on her by the other women . It was savage. Poor girl will never say that again I can tell you.

AnneFrank · 20-10-2017 02:12PM

ah yes the bullying that now exists if you do not have the general, online opinion of the snowflake mass's.
Never was this more apparent than the gay marriage referendum,
god help you if you didn't agree, forget the fact there was a democratic vote,
no, you were scum of the earth and labelled a homophobe if you disagreed.
and now all men are rapists/bullys/racists ect
#it'salesbianwomansworld

20-10-2017 02:20PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

ah yes the bullying that now exists if you do not have the general, online opinion of the snowflake mass's.
Never was this more apparent than the gay marriage referendum,
god help you if you didn't agree, forget the fact there was a democratic vote,
no, you were scum of the earth and labelled a homophobe if you disagreed.
and now all men are rapists/bullys/racists ect
#it'salesbianwomansworld

What in the name of f*ck are you even on about?

It just feels like there's an alt-right soundboard and you're pressing buttons trying to make full sentences.

A Little Pony · 20-10-2017 02:22PM

__..__ wrote: »

George Colossal Tomato wrote: »

It will get to a stage soon where people will feel there is something wrong with them if they haven't been raped or sexually assaulted.

I think we are at that stage.
One of the girls at work said today that she likes getting wolf whistles. Well I couldn't believe the attack on her by the other women . It was savage. Poor girl will never say that again I can tell you.

The other women are probably ugly.

flexcon · 20-10-2017 02:27PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

ah yes the bullying that now exists if you do not have the general, online opinion of the snowflake mass's.
Never was this more apparent than the gay marriage referendum,
god help you if you didn't agree, forget the fact there was a democratic vote,
no, you were scum of the earth and labelled a homophobe if you disagreed.
and now all men are rapists/bullys/racists ect
#it'salesbianwomansworld

honestly made perfect sense to me. I echo this in many ways.

It's why the world was shocked when Trump came in, why nertherlands nearly voted in a Naxi party, why UK is leaving thanks to brexit.

The masses are strangely not as mass consensus as they seem to think sometimes.

Anyway, way off thread!

I'm not sure how I feel about the #metoo. I saw two friends who said it on Facebook, one being kinda close. I asked them about it, and either didn't want to say anything more, or was unsure if to say anything. So it became an awkward moment when she made public with the #metoo but actually wouldnt talk about it in person.

If it did any good for her, and genuinely got the courage to say #metoo because of the sudden power and surge of attention behind this - then that's all fine. Undecided what to think since when asked further - no further details are given ...

bucketybuck · 20-10-2017 02:27PM

"#metoo"

"Aw hun, wat happned u?"

"Cant say, they no who dey are tho"

"awww hugs luv, men are horrible but your strong aint u and dey".

Basically a bunch of drama Ilamas on facebook are the last people you want associated with your crusade.

20-10-2017 02:28PM

__..__ wrote: »

I think we are at that stage.
One of the girls at work said today that she likes getting wolf whistles. Well I couldn't believe the attack on her by the other women . It was savage. Poor girl will never say that again I can tell you.

People are going to trivialize it - is wolf whistling assault really? Will a fella asking a woman on a date now be harassement-assault?

It’s going down a slippery slope by the 3rd wave feminists , sjws and social media bandwagoners trivializing real assault cases and not I was wolf whistled at

20-10-2017 02:29PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If it gives people a way to talk about their sexual abuse - who might not have been able to before (for whatever reason), then surely it's a good thing?

That's a huge if, though.

And it's hardly a safe space nor a very constructive one bytimes.

And I mean.....what's 'sexual harrassment' (not a question you'd be well advised to ask anywhere in public in these circumstances but it's kind of crucial to the debate)

DeanAustin · 20-10-2017 02:40PM

flexcon wrote: »

honestly made perfect sense to me. I echo this in many ways.

It's why the world was shocked when Trump came in, why nertherlands nearly voted in a Naxi party, why UK is leaving thanks to brexit.

The masses are strangely not as mass consensus as they seem to think sometimes.

Anyway, way off thread!

I'm not sure how I feel about the #metoo. I saw two friends who said it on Facebook, one being kinda close. I asked them about it, and either didn't want to say anything more, or was unsure if to say anything. So it became an awkward moment when she made public with the #metoo but actually wouldnt talk about it in person.

If it did any good for her, and genuinely got the courage to say #metoo because of the sudden power and surge of attention behind this - then that's all fine. Undecided what to think since when asked further - no further details are given ...

What’s the point though? If someone has a genuine complaint, then why not contact the Gardai?

I guess the counter argument is that there may not be enough evidence or they don’t want to confront the person who assaulted them. In that case, maybe this helps your friend (or people like her) to talk about it which could be a good thing in terms of dealing with it. But your friend doesn’t want to do that either.

However, beyond that it’s just exacerbating the feeling of being a victim (which I don’t think is a good thing in itself) or jumping on a bandwagon which lots of people will do to get some attention.

Someone said it earlier, this is social media at its worst.

Sexual assault is a heinous, disgusting crime. So is exploiting it to jump on a bandwagon in my view and this campaign encourages that sort of behaviour.

flexcon · 20-10-2017 02:46PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

What’s the point though? If someone has a genuine complaint, then why not contact the Gardai?

I guess the counter argument is that there may not be enough evidence or they don’t want to confront the person who assaulted them. In that case, maybe this helps your friend (or people like her) to talk about it which could be a good thing in terms of dealing with it. But your friend doesn’t want to do that either.

However, beyond that it’s just exacerbating the feeling of being a victim (which I don’t think is a good thing in itself) or jumping on a bandwagon which lots of people will do to get some attention.

Someone said it earlier, this is social media at its worst.

Sexual assault is a heinous, disgusting crime. So is exploiting it to jump on a bandwagon in my view and this campaign encourages that sort of behaviour.

Well see this is where I am confused to how I view it now.

I always put my head back in to say I cannot understand what they are thinking or feeling since I haven't experienced this myself.

Interesting point though

".......... beyond that it’s just exacerbating the feeling of being a victim (which I don’t think is a good thing in itself) or jumping on a bandwagon which lots of people will do to get some attention...."

Sheep mentality always comes into it, Kony 2012, Ice bucket challenge etc. Sometimes it does good, sometimes not.

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