Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Renee Zellweger (Bridget Jones, Jerry Maguire etc).

What makes you say "poor woman"? She seems happy enough to me.

Because on the first picture you posted she doesn't look happy at all.

I think everything was discussed here to death about the subject. still people her are on and on about the women 'who took part in it' yes. there are women who took part in it but they are not the main problem here.

yaaaawn, done with it.

His MO was really creepy, Lupita Nyong'o describes an encounter.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4999264/Lupita-Nyong-o-accuses-Weinstein-sexual-harassment.html#comments

How did he keep all this from the wife? She is stunning and much younger, how did he manage to hid this from her for so long? His entourage seemed to be complicit in enabling him. He really is a disgusting piece of work.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Renee Zellweger (Bridget Jones, Jerry Maguire etc).

What makes you say "poor woman"? She seems happy enough to me.

Oscar Winner Renee Zellweger. She starred in Chicago, and Cold Mountain-both of which he produced. And he got her an Oscar for Cold Mountain, despite it being an utterly awful film (Nobody could do a Southern accent for one thing)-oh, and she said she got the Oscar cos 'she deserved it' cos she won nothing for Chicago. Chicago was a movie that didn't deserve the awards it got-it was the year of Lord of the Rings, people forgot Chicago.
But that was Harvey-and the Oscars-reward campaigns, not talent.

No doubt he had stuff over Russell Crowe-Crowe had many a public meltdown (including the phone throwing incident). But there were more than likely many, many more-he even managed to cause an anti-semetic stir when he condemned circumcision.
Oh, and there are claims he helped kill a Weinstein story. So it's not as if he's some pious individual.

Wibbs wrote: »

It may well have been more of a business arrangement and for public optics than the average marriage. As you say she's younger and much better looking than him. She was hardly attracted to him physically and wouldn't have been if he was an average office worker. His power and wealth would be the attraction thing*. Maybe she knew or suspected but felt this was the cost of their arrangement? Or she simply decided to ignore it. There's many the man and woman who turn a blind eye to their partners indiscretions. So long as they stay private and out of sight.

*Which also begs the question; there are enough women he would have encountered who would have gone along with his sexual advances without duress, but yet this wasn't enough for him. Or he could have just hired expensive hookers. It was all about the power and control for him.

That's true. He seems generally obnoxious to people he deems beneath him. Comment to the waiter 'You'll get her what I tell you. I'm the one paying' as he is trying to ply her (Lupita) with drink she doesn't want.

Can't get my head around his beautiful and successful (dress designer) wife being attracted to him in any way. She is wealthy in her own right.
Power and wealth in a very unattractive obnoxious package, that's before you even factor in the sexual assaults!

Crea wrote: »

He and the wife married before her design business took off. Word is he used his influence to get actresses to wear his wife's designs on the red carpet. Apparently there was some bullying involved. I can't see many actresses supporting the brand in the next few years.

Didn't know that, just looked it up. Felicity Huffman said he threatened to pull funding for her movie Transamerica if she didn't wear his wife's dresses. :eek:

Speaking of Hollywood misogyny, The Quite Man finishing up on Film 4 + 1 now.

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Ah here, the story was written in the 1930s and filmed in the 1950s. And it was more a p*sstake than anything else.

haha love that "pisstake" argument, my college lecturer made the same apologist shtick. The whole thing is one big ironic pisstake by 'Irish American' Ford eh? Funny yankee audiences didn't 'get it' then or now(look at the bus loads that still visit the filming sites, ironically of course):) Its the most stage "oirish", diddley di ****e you can get, makes Darby O Gill look like a documentary and ultimately spawned what we now know as bord failte and the 'Irish Cailin'/Rose of Tralee industry. Point I was making is how things that were wholely acceptable at one stage ( dragging slapping women etc) and hiding in plain sight, arent anymore. Was also referring to the making of stories more than anything else too.

branie2 wrote: »

It;s my favourite John Wayne film

jaysus he is shocking, the arnie of his day.

I like to see a list of the women he didnt do anything to. The man appears to gave more energy thsn his girth would indicate.

Not sure how the pedophile scandal was kept secret for so long. I remember Corey Feldman and Elijah Wood speaking out against it. Never seemed to get much attention though.

http://people.com/celebrity/corey-feldman-on-child-sexual-abuse-in-hollywood-and-corey-haim/

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Actress Evan Rachel Wood has commented on Twitter that the paedophile scandal in Hollwood "will be the next dam to break."


The sooner the better, IMO.

A number of the so-called 'anti-gamergators' have been revealed as sexual deviants-harassment, assault and rape. As well as one who was discovered with child pornography, Shane Vader (and not for the first time, either).

Billy86 wrote: »

It's because people like Corey Haim and Feldman are/were very messed up in the head and have had a history of drug problems so it was easy to fob off. The sad irony there is that children who suffer sexual abuse very often grow up to be messed up in the head and have drug dependency issues.

Also stumbled upon this - [at 4mins in Haim is talking about being raped and Feldman about being molested during an argument between them which also backs up Feldman's comments that Haim 'got it' a good deal worse.

Haim , today, is calling for people to come forward with things they witnessed to end paedophilia in Hollywood.

Yeah, Wood emerged unscathed because of the luck of having the parents he had. As, I believe, did Jonathan Brandis-Brandis wanted to go behind the camera, but couldn't get a break.

There have been allegations made about Joel Schumacher in regards to Haim, and I don't believe it. Someone close to Haim said that his abuser was 42 at the time-but Schumacher was older during the making of Lost Boys, the only time he worked with Schumacher. What also emerged was a story of how Schumacher was one of the few who tried to protect Brad Renfro-another troubled kid.
Renfro had a troubled childhood-his grandmother was his sole parent, because his parents were drug addicts. Schumacher tried to help him-even enrolled him in acting classes to give him stability.
But Susan Sarandon noted the poor guy had nobody there to support him when he fell hard into addiction-his father was making a good recovery, but that was too late for his son-he was doomed from the start. What I didn't know is that his grandmother passed away 17 days after him-natural causes.

http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/hollywood_mine/2008/05/susan_sarandon_brad_renfro

There is a sad passage about Renfro in Onika Pointer's memoir (Humble B--tard: A memoir). She talks about her friends, actors, singers, etc. And one tale she tells of Renfro and an incident that occurred with someone called 'Ryan' during the making of Apt Pupil. She talks about how, as he told the story, she became sick to her stomach, crying. A few of those in her book didn't survive far into childhood-Renfro was one of em. In 1998, the year of Apt Pupil's release, was Renfro's first arrest-posession of marijuana and cocaine. (Also, according to imdb, Renfro was only 14 at the time of filming Apt Pupil).

Amanda Petersen probably suffered a similar fate. She fell into drug problems, eventually dying of the addiction. Months after her passing, her parents revealed she had been raped when she was 15, and never sought a prosecution. Keeping that bottled up must have been torture.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/amanda-petersons-family-reveal-horrific-rape-secret-after-tragic-deat-2015159/

JohnFalstaff wrote: »

Ryan or Bryan?
http://ew.com/article/1997/05/02/indecent-proposal-set-apt-pupil/

She calls him 'Ryan' in the book-but we all know who she's talking about.

They had a reality TV show called The Two Coreys back in the mid to late noughties I used to watch. Worth watching if you can find it online. Runs about 10 hours in total if watch all the shows back to back.

Anyway, this scene is one of the most unforgettable scenes of it where the abuse is mentioned.

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm guessing you mean Feldman, Corey Haim sadly died in 2010. I'd imagine if the rumours are to be believed (and I'd very much lean toward that), he must have been passed around in the most horrific and frantic manner imaginable as well because while both had the whole teen heartthrob thing going on, Corey Haim really was an impossibly good looking young lad (this is when he was 14/15).

It's just so ****in upsetting looking at photos of either of them/both of them as kids now.

Yeah, I meant Feldman. Haim and Feldman were supposedly just passed around, and unfortunately it was well known in Hollywood, about the abuse they received. I think one actress (she was young at the time)has said she'd heard about it. Haim more than likely got the worst of it-but he wasn't alone. Molly Ringwald has a few stories-hence why she quit the industry.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/20/is-hollywoods-next-scandal-the-pedophilia-ring-that-corey-feldman-has-long-talked-about/

Deleted User wrote: »

Coupla things.

We've all been conditioned to believe the narrative that successful people tend to burn out. At least celebrities. Why is that? Successful business people tend to keep going, sometimes fueled by drugs but celebrities burn out, especially when they make it big at a young age.

Also I was watching an episode of Family Guy from a few weeks ago (before the Weinsten stuff) and they make a joke about Kevin Spacey along the lines of "I was just walking my dog in the park". I'd be super disappointed if it was all true but there's stories about Spacey knocking about and it just got me wondering if it's another case of an open secret and "hiding in plain sight" considering his House of Cards character.

Yeah, I've seen similar. In certain industries like Visual and Make-Up Effects, and animation, burn out does happen, sadly. And that's an industry wide problem.
The 'childhood prodigy' thing has actually been studied. It's not uncommon for burn out to set in. Across the board, be it music, acting, art, medicine-burn out happens all too often with children. And it often leads to a deep depression.

I'm thinking Spacey will be found out sooner or later-nothing stays a secret for long. And he's at the stage where he's not a money maker for Hollywood anymore. He can be a supporting player-but he's not a lead.
Plus, more and more people are challenging him about his 'lifestyle'. His dad was a pervert too, so it runs in the family.
Twitter alone has tons of stories about him, which he doesn't address, and instead blocks.