Independent.ie Comments not allowed now

server down · 08-10-2017 01:11AM

RayM wrote: »

Boards.ie: The online equivalent of pubs that serve all the people who are barred from all the other pubs.

Oh.

PARlance · 08-10-2017 01:21AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I noticed this happened just around the time the LCD Soundsystem thread was posted here. I commented on the story on the Independent website. Then the next day I left another comment about how Al Doyle was a liar and that there was a picture of him and Leo Varadkar on Twitter. This comment never went up. A few hours later all the comments were gone.

Around the same time they printed the story about the girl in the wheelchair suing Costa.

I suspect it was one of these stories that prompted them to disable comments. Most likely it was the Costa one. Costa were probably sick of their name being dragged through the mud and threatened legal action.

Please don't call them disabled comments, that young one will be on another rant.

suicide_circus · 08-10-2017 07:05AM

Can hardly blame them, the quality of writing, reason and wit in the comments frequently surpassed that in the articles.

Benildus · 08-10-2017 07:24AM

Where will the Shinnerbots and anti FF/FG/LAB nutters go now?

Mrcaramelchoc · 08-10-2017 07:28AM

Benildus wrote: »

Where will the Shinnerbots and anti FF/FG/LAB nutters go now?

Here.

CeilingFly · 08-10-2017 07:30AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Around the same time they printed the story about the girl in the wheelchair suing Costa.

I suspect it was one of these stories that prompted them to disable comments. Most likely it was the Costa one. Costa were probably sick of their name being dragged through the mud and threatened legal action.

This is the rag's problem- they themselves will publish anything without checking the truth or even checking any background.

Costa story was classic example of gutter journalism that has become the mainstay of the website.

Known liar who targets companies for self promotion and indo publishes it without checking

And then all the stupids believing the proven liar waging a war against Costa .

Pinch Flat · 08-10-2017 07:41AM

Noticed this myself yesterday. The comments section of the Indo was a bit of access pit anyway with a selection of some nut jobs who you’d hope you never come across in the real world. Some sad, lonely trolls who lived for commenting.

I read the comments about Stefanie Preissner yesterday. Not someone I know a whole lot about, she’s an author and my only time seeing her was on the Brendan O’Connor chat thing. Comes across as being bright and funny and prettty genuine. She’s lost 11 stone which I never realised and she was in the late late show on Friday night. Some of the Indo comments about here were pretty disgusting. Sad trolls that are so miserable in their lives and hate themselves that they try and inflict this on someone else.

uck51js9zml2yt · 08-10-2017 08:49AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Noticed this myself yesterday. The comments section of the Indo was a bit of access pit anyway with a selection of some nut jobs who you’d hope you never come across in the real world. Some sad, lonely trolls who lived for commenting.

. Sad trolls that are so miserable in their lives and hate themselves that they try and inflict this on someone else.

Reminds me of boards.ie

nice_guy80 · 08-10-2017 08:53AM

probably due to the 8th ammendment referendum coming up

lot of nut jobs out there

Ally Dick · 08-10-2017 09:41AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Noticed this myself yesterday. The comments section of the Indo was a bit of access pit anyway with a selection of some nut jobs who you’d hope you never come across in the real world. Some sad, lonely trolls who lived for commenting.

I read the comments about Stefanie Preissner yesterday. Not someone I know a whole lot about, she’s an author and my only time seeing her was on the Brendan O’Connor chat thing. Comes across as being bright and funny and prettty genuine. She’s lost 11 stone which I never realised and she was in the late late show on Friday night. Some of the Indo comments about here were pretty disgusting. Sad trolls that are so miserable in their lives and hate themselves that they try and inflict this on someone else.

I disagree. The comments section were too heavily moderated for bad stuff to get through

Loon E. Tick · 08-10-2017 09:59AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

I disagree. The comments section were too heavily moderated for bad stuff to get through

In the case of Costa and Niamh Herbert, the comments were completely one-sided with people saying they would never set foot in there again because she was implying that they had discriminated against somebody with a disability and committed an illegal act. The people commenting just bought into her story because of the Indo's sensationalist headline that she had been 'denied service'; the exact same headline they used with her story about Ryanair which was subsequently shown to be completely inaccurate.

The_Valeyard · 08-10-2017 10:12AM

I think its angry journalists and editors who are shocked that people have different opinions than them. They cant survive outside their echo chamber.

08-10-2017 10:14AM

Loon E. Tick wrote: »

In the case of Costa and Niamh Herbert, the comments were completely one-sided with people saying they would never set foot in there again because she was implying that they had discriminated against somebody with a disability and committed an illegal act. The people commenting just bought into her story because of the Indo's sensationalist headline that she had been 'denied service'; the exact same headline they used with her story about Ryanair which was subsequently shown to be completely inaccurate.

Exactly. They didn’t post comments pointing out her history or favorable to Costa.

08-10-2017 10:41AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Here is what it says:

Independent.ie Comments Facility

INM has taken the decision to remove the commenting facility on its online platform Independent.ie to minimise the legal risk to our business that arises from Ireland's draconian libel awards system.

We continue to look forward to receiving comments through direct email contact or via social media, some of which may still be featured on the website Independent.ie

Long live 'Ireland's draconian libel laws' as the only protection against the abuses of the journalism mob and all their back scratching, agenda pushing, demonisation of opposing individuals and agendas, etc. Except they should be much, much stronger. It's not as if journalism in Ireland is marked by courageous public-interest investigative reporting, is it. Mere lackeys for the powerful, ingratiating themselves with rightwing agendas and circle jerking about their own "influence".

Those Independent rags - particularly the Sunday Independent - have targeted and demonised numerous groups and individuals from the workers in the 1913 Lockout (when the owner of Independent Newspapers, the one and only William 'Murder' Murphy, was also the largest employer in Dublin and chief opponent of the workers) to the Irish fighting the War of Independence in 1919-1921 against the British Empire to the relentless campaign against John Hume in the 1990s for the "crime" of starting the Peace Process/talking with Sinn Féin to "Sir Anthony" O'Reilly's lackeys like Shane Ross - yes, he who reinvented himself in 2011 as a crusader for "ethics" - talking down Eircom's share price until "Sir" Anthony rode in to buy Eircom shares at a ridiculously low price and then Ross talked them up until the now bankrupt "Sir Anthony" sold them for a profit, or the meeting before the 2007 General Election between "Sir Anthony" and Ahern and Cowen to list his demands in exchange for his newspapers supporting Fianna Fáil, or the very related appearance of Eoghan Harris on the Late Late Show before that same election and was rewarded with a €100,000 per annum position in Seanad Éireann for saying Ahern was great (that parasite will get a pension, paid for by Irish taxpayers, for the rest of his even more miserable life).

Some of us are never going to forget what those rags - and the Harris/Fanning cult and their hired pseudo-intellectual "intellectual" lackeys Ruth Dudley Edwards, John A. Murphy, etc - stand for. It will be a great step forward for democracy and freedom of speech in Ireland when their stranglehold on this society, and their West Brit, poor-hating agendas are overthrown. Given the near incestuous relationship between most of its writers, it will also be a great day for Irish coporate life that such an in-bred company is no more.

08-10-2017 11:23AM

Benildus wrote: »

Where will the Shinnerbots and anti FF/FG/LAB nutters go now?

r/Ireland it seems. I was reading a thread about Che Guevara on there yesterday and posts bashing communism or Guevara were getting downvoted like mad.

The_Valeyard · 08-10-2017 11:34AM

511 wrote: »

r/Ireland it seems. I was reading a thread about Che Guevara on there yesterday and posts bashing communism or Guevara were getting downvoted like mad.

Yeah reddit ireland does seem to be the hangout for far lefties.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 08-10-2017 11:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Obviously someone doesn’t like hearing what the great unwashed thinks. Shame, really. Thank goodness for Boards.ie.

I'm going to assume this is a sarcastic post, seeing as boards.ie has purged probably 1/4 of the entire population of Ireland at this point.

Uosdwis R. Dewoh · 08-10-2017 11:44AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Noticed this myself yesterday. The comments section of the Indo was a bit of access pit anyway with a selection of some nut jobs who you’d hope you never come across in the real world. Some sad, lonely trolls who lived for commenting.

I read the comments about Stefanie Preissner yesterday. Not someone I know a whole lot about, she’s an author and my only time seeing her was on the Brendan O’Connor chat thing. Comes across as being bright and funny and prettty genuine. She’s lost 11 stone which I never realised and she was in the late late show on Friday night. Some of the Indo comments about here were pretty disgusting. Sad trolls that are so miserable in their lives and hate themselves that they try and inflict this on someone else.

Obviously jealous of her new fit body and even moreso, her ability to make a change to her life, even though it was difficult.

If it's heavily moderated, what they leave out must be the rantings of the unhinged.

I can't stand Independent newspapers but I understand why they have to be careful of what gets associated with their articles (libel cases can be made against publications or broadcasters for enabling people to make libellous comments, even if the publication or broadcaster itself doesn't make them).

And I have seen plenty of comments to the Indo taking the same anti public sector line as them - it's some of the most populist tripe ever, of course plenty of folk are gonna share that view. I really don't think they're disabling commenting because of people not agreeing with them. They're just news reports anyway - they're not opinions.

Ideally, any view that's backed up should be allowed (I know that doesn't happen) but it's not hard to express that view civilly and without throwing insults.

08-10-2017 12:08PM

511 wrote: »

r/Ireland it seems. I was reading a thread about Che Guevara on there yesterday and posts bashing communism or Guevara were getting downvoted like mad.

Some of those comments were fierce shít though

cursai · 08-10-2017 12:09PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Long live 'Ireland's draconian libel laws' as the only protection against the abuses of the journalism mob and all their back scratching, agenda pushing, demonisation of opposing individuals and agendas, etc. Except they should be much, much stronger. It's not as if journalism in Ireland is marked by courageous public-interest investigative reporting, is it. Mere lackeys for the powerful, ingratiating themselves with rightwing agendas and circle jerking about their own "influence".

Those Independent rags - particularly the Sunday Independent - have targeted and demonised numerous groups and individuals from the workers in the 1913 Lockout (when the owner of Independent Newspapers, the one and only William 'Murder' Murphy, was also the largest employer in Dublin and chief opponent of the workers) to the Irish fighting the War of Independence in 1919-1921 against the British Empire to the relentless campaign against John Hume in the 1990s for the "crime" of starting the Peace Process/talking with Sinn Féin to "Sir Anthony" O'Reilly's lackeys like Shane Ross - yes, he who reinvented himself in 2011 as a crusader for "ethics" - talking down Eircom's share price until "Sir" Anthony rode in to buy Eircom shares at a ridiculously low price and then Ross talked them up until the now bankrupt "Sir Anthony" sold them for a profit, or the meeting before the 2007 General Election between "Sir Anthony" and Ahern and Cowen to list his demands in exchange for his newspapers supporting Fianna Fáil, or the very related appearance of Eoghan Harris on the Late Late Show before that same election and was rewarded with a €100,000 per annum position in Seanad Éireann for saying Ahern was great (that parasite will get a pension, paid for by Irish taxpayers, for the rest of his even more miserable life).

Some of us are never going to forget what those rags - and the Harris/Fanning cult and their hired pseudo-intellectual "intellectual" lackeys Ruth Dudley Edwards, John A. Murphy, etc - stand for. It will be a great step forward for democracy and freedom of speech in Ireland when their stranglehold on this society, and their West Brit, poor-hating agendas are overthrown. Given the near incestuous relationship between most of its writers, it will also be a great day for Irish coporate life that such an in-bred company is no more.

Maybe this kind of rant is why they got rid of it.

snowflaker · 08-10-2017 12:09PM

Good riddance!

_Dara_ · 08-10-2017 12:18PM

Below the line commentary on independent.ie was dross, barely a step above YouTube. No loss.

sdanseo · 08-10-2017 12:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Obviously someone doesn’t like hearing what the great unwashed thinks. Shame, really. Thank goodness for Boards.ie.

It really isn't a shame. Comments sections rarely foster a rational and measured debate because the moderators are both unseen, meaning that they can't engage with the discussion to keep things in order, and the type of response is often either an extreme view one way or the other, or simply abuse which wouldn't last a few minutes on here before attracting a ban.

They serve very little useful purpose.

Boards on the other hands is by no means perfect but you are hundreds of times more likely to get a meaningful debate. Even in AH.

LillySV · 12-10-2017 08:59AM

delighted that the commentary was removed...if you were to follow the comments on indo, you would find that they were incredibly biased towards the views the indo wanted you to have...if your comment clashed with their viewpoint, they wouldn't publish it! I would understand if a comment wasnt published if it had bad language or hate speech, but they just wouldnt publish certain comments for no valid reason!!its an incredibly biased trash paper, better off reading irish times or bbc website for world news

Benildus · 12-10-2017 09:24AM

LillySV wrote: »

delighted that the commentary was removed...if you were to follow the comments on indo, you would find that they were incredibly biased towards the views the indo wanted you to have...if your comment clashed with their viewpoint, they wouldn't publish it! I would understand if a comment wasnt published if it had bad language or hate speech, but they just wouldnt publish certain comments for no valid reason!!its an incredibly biased trash paper, better off reading irish times or bbc website for world news

I must disagree, they consistently published the comments of the Shinnerbots and left wing nutters.

Any article on SF or the banks was full of pointless and diversionary comments from the battalions of Gerry's shinnerbots.

McMurphy · 12-10-2017 09:30AM

Define irony.

A Denis O'Brien owned propaganda outlet disabling comments because of Ireland's draconian libel laws.

Jesus wept.

McMurphy · 12-10-2017 09:33AM

Benildus wrote: »

I must disagree, they consistently published the comments of the Shinnerbots and left wing nutters.

Any article on SF or the banks was full of pointless and diversionary comments from the battalions of Gerry's shinnerbots.

And plenty of articles about Irish water and it's siteserv contracts had the comments disabled.

Paul Melia was rightly often referred to as "Irish Waters Paul Melia - the man did so much shilling for them.

Benildus · 12-10-2017 10:49AM

Rick Shaw wrote: »

And plenty of articles about Irish water and it's siteserv contracts had the comments disabled.

Paul Melia was rightly often referred to as "Irish Waters Paul Melia - the man did so much shilling for them.

The only people with that opinion were Paul 'rent a mob' Murphy and his "no way we won't pay' brigade...

McMurphy · 12-10-2017 11:27AM

Benildus wrote: »

The only people with that opinion were Paul 'rent a mob' Murphy and his "no way we won't pay' brigade...

What opinion?

Benildus · 12-10-2017 11:46AM

Rick Shaw wrote: »

What opinion?

"Irish Waters Paul Melia"