Independent.ie Comments not allowed now

Ally Dick · 07-10-2017 10:16PM #1

Bit of a bummer this one. I used to enjoy reading the comments and adding some of my own. Now they are saying they are abandoning the practice, because of "Ireland's draconian libel laws". Wow, I never knew that was a problem. Anywho, I shall miss the comment section. I'll have to rant on Boards instead

RayM · 07-10-2017 10:17PM

Comments sections: The online equivalent of pubs that serve all the people who are barred from all the other pubs.

OldMrBrennan83 · 07-10-2017 10:18PM

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tomwaterford · 07-10-2017 10:20PM

When was this brought in??

Seen comments under that stamp guys article earlier today like?

07-10-2017 10:21PM

Obviously someone doesn’t like hearing what the great unwashed thinks. Shame, really. Thank goodness for Boards.ie.

Varik · 07-10-2017 10:21PM

They've had comment for years and nothing happened even with our "draconian libel laws", The only ones bringing that down on them are their own writers occasionally.

They're getting rid of the comments for the same reason a lot of other do, they have their views and the posters in the comment section more than not take the opposite and sometimes to the extreme.

07-10-2017 10:23PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

When was this brought in??

Seen comments under that stamp guys article earlier today like?

Scroll down to comments section and there’s an announcement there.

Ally Dick · 07-10-2017 10:23PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

When was this brought in??

Seen comments under that stamp guys article earlier today like?

I noticed it this evening. Maybe it is just for my benefit :mad:

Ally Dick · 07-10-2017 10:27PM

Here is what it says:

Independent.ie Comments Facility

INM has taken the decision to remove the commenting facility on its online platform Independent.ie to minimise the legal risk to our business that arises from Ireland's draconian libel awards system.

We continue to look forward to receiving comments through direct email contact or via social media, some of which may still be featured on the website Independent.ie

tomwaterford · 07-10-2017 10:29PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

I noticed it this evening. Maybe it is just for my benefit :mad:

Gone off them all??

Wonder what kind of shîtfest it decended into to cause that

mzungu · 07-10-2017 10:30PM

It won't be any great loss. I'd say the real reason is that they don't want to bother paying anybody to moderate it.

PopePalpatine · 07-10-2017 10:31PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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AFAIK there's no such escape clause for websites in Ireland, I think a certain concert promoter raised a stink with this site a few years ago.

Anyone else find it ironic that the Indo is complaining of "draconian libel awards"?

elperello · 07-10-2017 10:41PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Anyone else find it ironic that the Indo is complaining of "draconian libel awards"?

Careful now!!

buried · 07-10-2017 10:41PM

Sounds like a right big mess coming down the road for that outfit real soon. I can't f**king wait

McMurphy · 07-10-2017 10:43PM

Varik wrote: »

They've had comment for years and nothing happened even with our "draconian libel laws", The only ones bringing that down on them are their own writers occasionally.

They're getting rid of the comments for the same reason a lot of other do, they have their views and the posters in the comment section more than not take the opposite and sometimes to the extreme.

The indo is heavily pre-moderated, ie your comments aren't gonna see the light of day unless they pass the quality control of the indos own proof readers.

Or....

In other words, Denis is hardly going to sue himself.

backspin. · 07-10-2017 10:51PM

I often enjoy the comments more than the articles. I consider most articles these days to be either heavily biased or heavily censored. At least in the comments you can get both sides. I will read less of these articles if i know there are no comments below.

07-10-2017 10:52PM

Now if only they will disable comments on the journal articles.

the_syco · 07-10-2017 10:55PM

RayM wrote: »

Comments sections After Hours: The online equivalent of pubs that serve all the people who are barred from all the other pubs.

You wrote After Hours incorrectly :P

backspin. · 07-10-2017 10:56PM

Varik wrote: »

They've had comment for years and nothing happened even with our "draconian libel laws", The only ones bringing that down on them are their own writers occasionally.

They're getting rid of the comments for the same reason a lot of other do, they have their views and the posters in the comment section more than not take the opposite and sometimes to the extreme.

I've seen some journalists absolutely roasted in the comment section. Nothing nasty just their article picked a part piece by piece. I'm sure the journalists and the editors don't like to see that happen. Convenient for them now to not have to face that sort of analysis.

Btw i also know some comments sections end up an absolute cesspit of bile. But by and large they have been good for people who like to hear more than one perspective.

lertsnim · 07-10-2017 11:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Now if only they will disable comments on the journal articles.

The Journal wouldnt last a month if they did that.

McMurphy · 07-10-2017 11:19PM

backspin. wrote: »

I've seen some journalists absolutely roasted in the comment section. Nothing nasty just their article picked a part piece by piece. I'm sure the journalists and the editors don't like to see that happen. Convenient for them now to not have to face that sort of analysis.

Btw i also know some comments sections end up an absolute cesspit of bile. But by and large they have been good for people who like to hear more than one perspective.

Agree 110%

MadDog76 · 07-10-2017 11:23PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Bit of a bummer this one. I used to enjoy reading the comments and adding some of my own. Now they are saying they are abandoning the practice, because of "Ireland's draconian libel laws". Wow, I never knew that was a problem. Anywho, I shall miss the comment section. I'll have to rant on Boards instead

Deleted User wrote: »

Obviously someone doesn’t like hearing what the great unwashed thinks. Shame, really. Thank goodness for Boards.ie.

You can't exactly give a 100% honest truthful opinion on here either ........

murpho999 · 07-10-2017 11:29PM

Ally Dick wrote: »

Here is what it says:

Independent.ie Comments Facility

INM has taken the decision to remove the commenting facility on its online platform Independent.ie to minimise the legal risk to our business that arises from Ireland's draconian libel awards system.

We continue to look forward to receiving comments through direct email contact or via social media, some of which may still be featured on the website Independent.ie

So now they removed both the commenting and journalistic facilities from their website it means they can pour more resources into how "Ireland's Golden Couple",Amy Huberman's and Brian O'Driscoll's house extension plans are getting along.

Rubberchikken · 07-10-2017 11:32PM

Book burning next.

For Forks Sake · 07-10-2017 11:43PM

lertsnim wrote: »

The Journal wouldnt last a month if they did that.

A month? You mad, they'd have to shut down within three minutes.

Atlantic Dawn · 07-10-2017 11:52PM

The availability of comments on Independent.ie was always very selective, some articles like those related to property prices and certain hob knob connected people were no go areas with comments disabled.

andekwarhola · 08-10-2017 12:00AM

Haven't read the comments for stuff like that or youtube for a long time. It's the discursive equivalent of aimlessly stirring a slurry pit.

elperello · 08-10-2017 12:09AM

This will probably reduce traffic on the site and thus affect advertising revenue.

Irish Guitarist · 08-10-2017 12:45AM

I noticed this happened just around the time the LCD Soundsystem thread was posted here. I commented on the story on the Independent website. Then the next day I left another comment about how Al Doyle was a liar and that there was a picture of him and Leo Varadkar on Twitter. This comment never went up. A few hours later all the comments were gone.

Around the same time they printed the story about the girl in the wheelchair suing Costa.

I suspect it was one of these stories that prompted them to disable comments. Most likely it was the Costa one. Costa were probably sick of their name being dragged through the mud and threatened legal action.

08-10-2017 12:58AM

murpho999 wrote: »

So now they removed both the commenting and journalistic facilities from their website it means they can pour more resources into how "Ireland's Golden Couple",Amy Huberman's and Brian O'Driscoll's house extension plans are getting along.

or How Vogue Williams is upset over getting only 10 likes on her latest instagram post or what Roz Purcell made for dinner

GhostyMcGhost · 08-10-2017 01:02AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Now if only they will disable comments on the journal articles.

Some of the people there could also be described as draconian