Newstalk bans Irish Times Journalists

Richard Hillman · 05-10-2017 07:49PM

There was an orchastred campaign from some media outlets to keep the story alive. The Journal with Niall Brophy and his ex workmate at UTV Chris Donoghue were involved too.

I think this could be related to the politics.ie post that claimed to be an insider saying journalists were ringing up Hooks advertisers about pulling their sponsorship.

Remember, this was a media campaign and not a campaign of public outrage.

Donutz · 05-10-2017 08:03PM

It's all a bit childish really. If communicorp are in the habbit of banning anybody that gives them criticism, they're gonna run out of decent contributors fairly quickly.

Fintan O Toole on the other hand though....
How come he didn't raise his sexism concerns any of the previous times he appeared on the station.

Bateman · 05-10-2017 08:08PM

Hook..Mullally...glad I don't have to listen to either of these

05-10-2017 08:22PM

Does this mean we are not subjected to Gerry Thornley's annoying voice on Off The Ball's Monday night rugby, Tuesday night rugby, Wednesday night rugby etc. etc.

I'll take it. Marred a good sports show.

mzungu · 05-10-2017 08:29PM

Pointless of Newstalk to do that. One journalist from the IT writes an article they don't like, so they decide to ban all IT journalists? Petty. Very petty. I don't get where they are coming from at all. O'Toole had already ruled himself out so it won't be any skin off his back, so why ban other journalists?

Plus, not exactly a good image for a media company to ban journalists they have disagreements with.

lazybones32 · 05-10-2017 08:35PM

I can see why NT are pi$$ed at the guy who made an ott remark but an opinion is an opinion and this crap of demanding an apology?...go fcuk yourself. Nearly everyone who demands an apology isn't seeking it to heal any hurt caused but is using it as a ploy or is on a power trip.

I haven't listened to NT since the manufactured offense and outraged-bandwagoners had their last victory and i don't buy the IT, so they can rage against each other until they poison themselves with bile.

There is no attack of free speech or freedom of expression here.

AnneFrank · 05-10-2017 08:35PM

VinLieger wrote: »

I wouldnt call Fintan O Toole mature either tbh

His surname is very apt, a new age softy offended by the slightest controversial opinion. I agree with George and newstalk, and I like Mr trump.

Fred Swanson · 05-10-2017 08:50PM

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spookwoman · 05-10-2017 09:00PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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More like cancelled

http://www.thejournal.ie/dil-wickremasinghe-newstalk-show-cancelled-3632151-Oct2017/?utm_source=shortlink

andekwarhola · 05-10-2017 09:03PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

A very defensive move from Newstalk but in no way is it a free speech issue. Newstalk are absolutely free to provide, or deny, their platform to anyone they wish. The Irish Times can say what they want, Newstalk is under no obligation to provide them a platform for them to do so.

While I generally agree with that in terms of pure business, it's a bit more problematic when it's the news media, and in particular, it's being done by somebody who controls a disproportionate amount of the media.

I didn't agree with hook being hounded off air either, although I don't agree with him.

Annasopra · 05-10-2017 09:03PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Looks like they shoved her out tbh

pjproby · 05-10-2017 09:07PM

It shows that the problem at NewsTalk goes deeper than just George Hook. It is a systemic attitude. I for one intend boycotting NewsTalk until they reverse this nonsense.

Badabing · 05-10-2017 09:12PM

Can't see Matt Cooper being very happy about this. Hugh Linean is a reqular on the show for example.

05-10-2017 09:17PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Dil has left NewsTalk.

Her 12 listeners must be devastated

Fred Swanson · 05-10-2017 09:19PM

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The Legend Of Kira · 05-10-2017 09:26PM

The op fails to take into account that there no mob that sought to pressure Newstalk to ban people from the Irish times, unlike what we seen from the other side in recent weeks, I disagree with Newstalks move to ban others from the Irish times based on what one of their writers said saying " he d refuse to appear on newstalk " .

spookwoman · 05-10-2017 09:30PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think IT ran a story or 2 nearly every day about hook for about a week so I wouldn't blame NT for saying feck em. Dill tied her own noose, you don't bad mouth your employer without consequences

WinnyThePoo · 05-10-2017 09:32PM

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

The op fails to take into account that there no mob that sought to pressure Newstalk to ban people from the Irish times, unlike what we seen from the other side in recent weeks, I disagree with Newstalks move to ban others from the Irish times based on what one of their writers said saying " he d refuse to appear on newstalk " .

What other side? This whole sides thing is so childish.

05-10-2017 09:33PM

Least she has her ‘comedy’ career to fall back on ....

Uosdwis R. Dewoh · 05-10-2017 09:35PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

I like Mr trump.

This thread isn't about "Mr" (it's actually "President") Trump whatsoever, so that's a bit of a random one!

elperello · 05-10-2017 09:43PM

Wheels coming off the Newstalk wagon.
Expect a change of ownership.

Venom · 05-10-2017 09:49PM

Sunny Dirty Track-and-field wrote: »

Least she has her ‘comedy’ career to fall back on ....

Is that the new term for busking :pac:

Richard Hillman · 05-10-2017 10:42PM

Donoghue next

This is very important for Communicorp to send a message to the upstarts about trying to get people sacked again.

The less than 20 signatures will be very worried too

VinLieger · 05-10-2017 10:52PM

The Legend Of Kira wrote: »

The op fails to take into account that there no mob that sought to pressure Newstalk to ban people from the Irish times, unlike what we seen from the other side in recent weeks, I disagree with Newstalks move to ban others from the Irish times based on what one of their writers said saying " he d refuse to appear on newstalk " .

He dis more than that, he made some pretty outrageous claims about sexism in NT, a station where 10 out of 11 producers are women and so is the director of the station, the on air talent is not indicative of the makeup of the station behind the scenes but Fintans never let the facts get in the way of hisnown indignation.

The whole dill thing is hilarious

Rumpy Pumpy · 05-10-2017 11:10PM

Like two blind mice on the Titanic arguing about which way to get to the lifeboats.

RobertKK · 06-10-2017 12:57AM

Newstalk is upping it's quality.

Surprised people still pay for the Irish Times, it is too PC and preaches on certain topics.

HandsomeBob · 06-10-2017 07:01AM

Donutz wrote: »

It's all a bit childish really. If communicorp are in the habbit of banning anybody that gives them criticism, they're gonna run out of decent contributors fairly quickly.

Fintan O Toole on the other hand though....
How come he didn't raise his sexism concerns any of the previous times he appeared on the station.

Oul Fintan has already banned himself from Newstalk. He finally made a "stand" on the issue a couple of weeks ago......but I've no doubt he'll milk this for another article now.

I'm sure some of the IT journos will be delighted anyway.....now they don't have to come up with some sort of excuse for refusing to take part in live debates (well on Newstalk at least).

Teyla Emmagan · 06-10-2017 07:19AM

I don't think I have ever heard Una Mulally on radio. Bit of a pathetic move by DOB anyway.

Do you get paid to go on air an contribute to radio shows or are all these people just doing it for their profile?

_Dara_ · 06-10-2017 07:23AM

pilly wrote: »

So why were a large proportion of posters saying George Hook was denied free speech?

That's my point. He wasn't denied free speech he was denied a platform.

Great point actually!

Newstalk can do this if they want, as I said in the George Hook thread, he wasn’t silenced. He could still get his POV across via other platforms. This is the same.

Now whether this makes anyone look hypocritical depends on whether they thought Hook was silenced and simultaneously agree with this move by Newstalk. If anyone simultaneously holds these two viewpoints then, yes, that makes them hypocritical.

VinLieger · 06-10-2017 08:21AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Great point actually!

Newstalk can do this if they want, as I said in the George Hook thread, he wasn’t silenced. He could still get his POV across via other platforms. This is the same.

Now whether this makes anyone look hypocritical depends on whether they thought Hook was silenced and simultaneously agree with this move by Newstalk. If anyone simultaneously holds these two viewpoints then, yes, that makes them hypocritical.

George hook was removed from his job for something he said that was hurtful, fintan said something moronic, ridiculously hyperbolic and factually untrue and he as well as his employer refuse to apologise for or retract that, however George did apologise..... several times. The two situations as much people would like to believe are entirely different.

Newstalk bans Irish Times Journalists

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