Newstalk bans Irish Times Journalists

pilly · 05-10-2017 04:49PM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/newstalk-irish-times-3631283-Oct2017/

Wonder will all the free speech proponents object to this?

RustyNut · 05-10-2017 04:51PM

That's mature.

pilly · 05-10-2017 04:54PM

RustyNut wrote: »

That's mature.

Have you anything to add to the discussion?

Mitch Connor · 05-10-2017 04:55PM

A very defensive move from Newstalk but in no way is it a free speech issue. Newstalk are absolutely free to provide, or deny, their platform to anyone they wish. The Irish Times can say what they want, Newstalk is under no obligation to provide them a platform for them to do so.

*I think Hook is sexist and I think lack of female talent, or talent in general to be honest, is a massive black mark on it. I feel O'Toole was generally right in what he said and should offer no apology for it. Hook deserved the criticism he got, and more.

super_furry · 05-10-2017 04:55PM

pilly wrote: »

Have you anything to add to the discussion?

Have you other than posting a link?

It’s a small and petty move by Denis O’Brien who doesn’t like anyone challenging his personal media fiefdom.

It was never a free speech issue from start to finish, it was about someone being held accountable for what they said.

VinLieger · 05-10-2017 04:56PM

RustyNut wrote: »

That's mature.

I wouldnt call Fintan O Toole mature either tbh

Mitch Connor · 05-10-2017 04:56PM

pilly wrote: »

Have you anything to add to the discussion?

Added more to the discussion than you did - so I don't see what grounds you are having a pop from. You posted a link, asked a (imo) snarky question. At least the poster you are having a pop at actually offered an opinion on the matter, unlike yourself.

buried · 05-10-2017 04:58PM

Captain Hook vs Fintan Pan Episode ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

05-10-2017 05:04PM

Not having Una Mullally and FOT on NT is a plus in my eyes

pilly · 05-10-2017 05:04PM

super_furry wrote: »

Have you other than posting a link?

It’s a small and petty move by Denis O’Brien who doesn’t like anyone challenging his personal media fiefdom.

It was never a free speech issue from start to finish, it was about someone being held accountable for what they said.

I asked a question, didn't just post the link.

I agree it was never a free speech issue but the amount of people on the original case saying this was free speech being stifled was huge. I'm just wondering will they object as much to this action.

Infini · 05-10-2017 05:15PM

To be honest fair play to them. If the screaming loony brigade cant have a coherent proper debate they shouldn't be allowed a platform to peddle their shytetalk. That's the problem these days: Muppets totally blowing things out of proportion and twisting things to ****etalk and feel important without any proper argument.

biko · 05-10-2017 05:25PM

Looking into this I found this gem

Yamanoto · 05-10-2017 05:29PM

Sunny Dirty Track-and-field wrote: »

Not having Una Mullally and FOT on NT is a plus in my eyes

Absolutely, but.....

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2Q7qJS2NKAZAz4flcNnceZUMCYs_dabnq9899qfVw_pDqUU348A

Arghus · 05-10-2017 05:33PM

Seems childish to me, but I suppose they can do what they like.

05-10-2017 05:34PM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Absolutely, but.....

era she’s on at a dreadful slot - now if she was moved to a prime time slot like weekday

Captain Obvious · 05-10-2017 05:50PM

pilly wrote: »

Have you anything to add to the discussion?

That's a bit rich considering you've added nothing but a news dump.

Newstalk well in their rights. George Hook was lambasted by them for uttering an unpopular opinion and now they whine about free speech. Why do Newstalk owe them a right to free speech anyway?

pilly · 05-10-2017 05:58PM

I don't know if people are having trouble reading the OP or not but I didn't just post a link (which by the way is how most threads on Boards are started).

I asked a question. Which you've answered for me. It's okay to silence others as long as you don't like them. It's not okay when you do like them.

Grand. Now I know.

For Forks Sake · 05-10-2017 06:00PM

If it means less Fintan O'Fool and Una Mulally on the airwaves, then I'm all for it

Unexpected side-affect: no Breda O'Brien for the abortion referendum campaign? Result.

DeanAustin · 05-10-2017 06:01PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

If it means less Fintan O'Fool and Una Mulally on the airwaves, then I'm all for it
Although I'm sure the Last Word will counteract this by doubling the amount of airtime they get on there (and it's too much as it is)

Unexpected side-affect: no Breda O'Brien for the abortion referendum campaign? Result.

They're banned from Today FM too. Same owners.

pilly · 05-10-2017 06:01PM

For Forks Sake wrote:

If it means less Fintan O'Fool and Una Mulally on the airwaves, then I'm all for it Although I'm sure the Last Word will counteract this by doubling the amount of airtime they get on there (and it's too much as it is)

See my previous post.

For Forks Sake · 05-10-2017 06:03PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

They're banned from Today FM too. Same owners.

Missed than on my first read of the article. Thought it was NT only not all Communicorp stations.

arayess · 05-10-2017 06:12PM

if this was a fight , I'd pray on a double KO.

newstalk and the IT are both horrible bags of sh1te.

Captain Obvious · 05-10-2017 06:19PM

pilly wrote: »

I don't know if people are having trouble reading the OP or not but I didn't just post a link (which by the way is how most threads on Boards are started).

I asked a question. Which you've answered for me. It's okay to silence others as long as you don't like them. It's not okay when you do like them.

Grand. Now I know.

Believing in free speech does not require you to give a platform to other people.

pilly · 05-10-2017 06:30PM

Captain Obvious wrote:

Believing in free speech does not require you to give a platform to other people.

So why were a large proportion of posters saying George Hook was denied free speech?

That's my point. He wasn't denied free speech he was denied a platform.

VinLieger · 05-10-2017 06:38PM

pilly wrote: »

So why were a large proportion of posters saying George Hook was denied free speech?

That's my point. He wasn't denied free speech he was denied a platform.

If you are you try start that the thread will get locked

Captain Obvious · 05-10-2017 06:41PM

pilly wrote: »

So why were a large proportion of posters saying George Hook was denied free speech?

That's my point. He wasn't denied free speech he was denied a platform.

He had a platform, national radio.

silverharp · 05-10-2017 06:59PM

they are two cheeks of the same arse

meeeeh · 05-10-2017 07:06PM

This could financially affect more regular contributors from IT on Newstalk.

Snotty · 05-10-2017 07:19PM

Great, I'm delighted.
Talk of freedom of speech and this all started over a presenter asking a question, a question that wasn't liked by many, but I feel was a valid question knowing the subject of the conversation before the question. Of course, that's irrelevant to populist liberals like FoT who is just after the next topic to get offened over.

Fred Swanson · 05-10-2017 07:31PM

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Dyr · 05-10-2017 07:33PM

The Irish Times...some of the older posters might remember what it was

Journalists should be banned from interviewing each other full stop

Newstalk bans Irish Times Journalists

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