Leinster v Munster Build Up Thread

molloyjh · 04-10-2017 08:51AM

awec wrote: »

If only there was a way for both teams to lose.

Isn't that Ulsters role in Irish rugby?

Tough one to call this one. I suppose a lot of the Leinster players in the Munster squad have something to prove. That might give them an edge. But will it be enough to beat the donor province? Who knows. Either way I think we can all agree, it will be Leinster players deciding this one. :cool:

irishbucsfan · 04-10-2017 08:53AM

molloyjh wrote: »

Isn't that Ulsters role in Irish rugby?

Tough one to call this one. I suppose a lot of the Leinster players in the Munster squad have something to prove. That might give them an edge. But will it be enough to beat the donor province? Who knows. Either way I think we can all agree, it will be Leinster players deciding this one. :cool:

We can't lose!

04-10-2017 10:29AM

Wellity wellity wellity.

I went down to UCD yesterday to watch the lads doing the last full training before this Saturdays hammering of Munster.

One thing of particular interest was a new tackle technique they had all the forwards working on. They had Luke McGrath and JGP wearing this weird Justin Bieber style black hair wig with a little grey patch on it and as soon as one of them would go to kick the ball all the forwards would dive on their standing leg.

It was a bit mad to watch but definitely looked like a specific tactic they are looking to employ in upcoming game(s).

arsebiscuits1 · 04-10-2017 10:55AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wellity wellity wellity.

I went down to UCD yesterday to watch the lads doing the last full training before this Saturdays hammering of Munster.

One thing of particular interest was a new tackle technique they had all the forwards working on. They had Luke McGrath and JGP wearing this weird Justin Bieber style black hair wig with a little grey patch on it and as soon as one of them would go to kick the ball all the forwards would dive on their standing leg.

It was a bit mad to watch but definitely looked like a specific tactic they are looking to employ in upcoming game(s).

Joe would invade the pitch himself to try and stop it.

On the topic though, has an Irish player ever missed an international because of an injury/ dirty tactics in an interpro

irishbucsfan · 04-10-2017 10:58AM

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Joe would invade the pitch himself to try and stop it.

On the topic though, has an Irish player ever missed an international because of an injury/ dirty tactics in an interpro

Paul O'Connell used Dave Kearney's head for kicking practice once

arsebiscuits1 · 04-10-2017 10:59AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Paul O'Connell used Dave Kearney's head for kicking practice once

How could I forget about that one?

That was bad

Former Former · 04-10-2017 11:02AM

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Joe would invade the pitch himself to try and stop it.

On the topic though, has an Irish player ever missed an international because of an injury/ dirty tactics in an interpro

Alan Quinlan missed a Lions tour because of it...

irishbucsfan · 04-10-2017 11:04AM

John Hayes decided to use Cian Healy's head for dance practice once

errlloyd · 04-10-2017 11:05AM

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Joe would invade the pitch himself to try and stop it.

On the topic though, has an Irish player ever missed an international because of an injury/ dirty tactics in an interpro

John Hayes got a ban that initially ran up to the night before an international for stamping on Cian Healy. It was events like that, POC thing and a few others that made some posters suggest that the citing process was a bit dodgy.

Erik Shin · 04-10-2017 11:09AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Paul O'Connell used Dave Kearney's head for kicking practice once

Now, tbf, Dave is a renowned boot licker and he was just trying to get on Paulie's good side.
But he totally misjudged his timing, just a silly thing for Kearney to do as Paulie is just too humble for those unnecessary outpourings of love

04-10-2017 11:13AM

errlloyd wrote: »

John Hayes got a ban that initially ran up to the night before an international for stamping on Cian Healy. It was events like that, POC thing and a few others that made some posters suggest that the citing process was a bit dodgy.

I still to this day believe POC wasn't cited to keep him in the running for Lion's captaincy. It was an Irish citing committee if I'm not mistaken.

irishbucsfan · 04-10-2017 11:16AM

errlloyd wrote: »

John Hayes got a ban that initially ran up to the night before an international for stamping on Cian Healy. It was events like that, POC thing and a few others that made some posters suggest that the citing process was a bit dodgy.

I can't remember the exact one (maybe Buer is best for that) but I remember one particular occurrence where Marcus Horan got off for something blatant in order to keep him free for an international.

04-10-2017 11:23AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I still to this day believe POC wasn't cited to keep him in the running for Lion's captaincy. It was an Irish citing committee if I'm not mistaken.

Ah it was pretty unanimous at the time that he had gotten away with it because it was an Irish citing team and no one wanted to see him left out of the upcoming six nations (I think).

What was really damning was how the IRFU only released a non audio version in the aftermath and destroyed all versions where you could hear Paul on the ref mic.

"See if you're still faster than Zebo after this...." he can clearly be heard screaming at poor Dave as he brings the boot down.

errlloyd · 04-10-2017 11:23AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I can't remember the exact one (maybe Buer is best for that) but I remember one particular occurrence where Marcus Horan got off for something blatant in order to keep him free for an international.

This is the article. I don't exactly remember it either. Thomond2006 has blocked it out, so Buer is probably best!

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2009/1013/256032-hayesj/

Munster and Ireland prop John Hayes has had his ban for stamping in the Magners League clash between Leinster and Munster reduced by a week.

The suspension for stamping on the head of Cian Healy during Munster's 30-0 defeat on 3 October was originally due to run until 14 November but will now end on 7 November.

An IRFU statement said the suspension was reduced because the Committee had allowed one week's mitigation based upon Hayes' disciplinary record.

However, as neither Munster nor Ireland have any fixtures from 7 to 14 November, Hayes will not be able to play any extra matches for either side as a result of the reduction. The period in question does not feature any All-Ireland League matches either.

The tighthead prop has already missed Munster's defeat to Northampton in Round One of the Heineken Cup pool stage and will miss their clash with Treviso in Round Two this Saturday.

Munster are also due to play Edinburgh on Friday 23 October and Ulster on Saturday 31 October in the Magners League. They have no match between then and Saturday 5 December, when they are to face the Neath-Swansea Ospreys.

Hayes will also be available for Ireland's November International series, which is due to begin on 15 November with a Test match against Australia.

Now I dunno, but it seems mighty weird that he was given a ban that ran till Saturday 14th of November when Ireland had a game on Sunday 15th of November. It seems even weirder that on appeal they reduced it by a week that included no games.

Erik Shin · 04-10-2017 11:26AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What was really damning was how the IRFU only released a non audio version in the aftermath and destroyed all versions where you could hear Paul on the ref mic.

"See if you're still faster than John Hayes!! after this...." he can clearly be heard screaming at poor Dave as he brings the boot down.

Buer · 04-10-2017 11:26AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I still to this day believe POC wasn't cited to keep him in the running for Lion's captaincy. It was an Irish citing committee if I'm not mistaken.

Citing commissioner was Eddie Walsh for that game.

There have been a few incidents that were completely pathetic and fixed within provincial games. Sexton deliberately kicked Mafi in the face and got 2 weeks. He'd have copped 12 weeks if it was now and probably 6 weeks at the time if it had been an independent process.

Hayes got 5 weeks for deliberately stamping on Cian Healy's face. Again, the incident was worth twice what he got. There have been other incidents that have had a blind eye turned to them.

Horan taking BOD out off the ball with a shoulder charge. Shane Jennings and SOB probably have spent a combined season on the side lines in total for some of their enthusiastic rucking.

Leo Cullen thumped Ian Keatley under the posts about a decade ago and go away with it, I recall. Should have got 6 weeks, easy.

Buer · 04-10-2017 11:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah it was pretty unanimous at the time that he had gotten away with it because it was an Irish citing team and no one wanted to see him left out of the upcoming six nations (I think).

Was in April. Would have impacted his Lions preparation but, more importantly, Munster had a HEC semi final 2 weeks later which he would definitely have been ruled out of. That was the real reason they ignored it.

thomond2006 · 04-10-2017 11:30AM

Stop posting #FAKENEWS.

Hayes tried to save Healy from violent hornets that were trying to eat Healy's face.

The mainstream posters on this board are so untrustworthy. SAD!

04-10-2017 11:33AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Stop posting #FAKENEWS.

Hayes tried to save Healy from violent hornets that were trying to eat Healy's face.

The mainstream posters on this board are so untrustworthy. SAD!

I've been struggling to remember that game in detail all morning. I was trying to remember all the scores but for some reason could only remember the Leinster ones.

Anyway, here is the game if anyone would like to see it.

thomond2006 · 04-10-2017 11:35AM

Now the FAKE mainstream posters use doctored footage. Hayes is a GREAT GUY. Incredibly SAD!

04-10-2017 11:45AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Now the FAKE mainstream posters use doctored footage. Hayes is a GREAT GUY. Incredibly SAD!

You had very fine people on both sides, both sides.

arsebiscuits1 · 04-10-2017 11:46AM

Buer wrote: »

Citing commissioner was Eddie Walsh for that game.

There have been a few incidents that were completely pathetic and fixed within provincial games. Sexton deliberately kicked Mafi in the face and got 2 weeks. He'd have copped 12 weeks if it was now and probably 6 weeks at the time if it had been an independent process.

Hayes got 5 weeks for deliberately stamping on Cian Healy's face. Again, the incident was worth twice what he got. There have been other incidents that have had a blind eye turned to them.

Horan taking BOD out off the ball with a shoulder charge. Shane Jennings and SOB probably have spent a combined season on the side lines in total for some of their enthusiastic rucking.

Leo Cullen thumped Ian Keatley under the posts about a decade ago and go away with it, I recall. Should have got 6 weeks, easy.

Wasn't the Horan shoulder charge just before he got up to tackle another player and then made a break and an out the backdoor pass to Sexton?

aloooof · 04-10-2017 11:56AM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Paul O'Connell used Dave Kearney's head for kicking practice once

And Eric Miller used Anthony Foley's balls!

Buer · 04-10-2017 11:57AM

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Wasn't the Horan shoulder charge just before he got up to tackle another player and then made a break and an out the backdoor pass to Sexton?

He went down, was getting medical attention and jumped up to make a tackle but the ball went out of play shortly after that. The reverse pass was in that game but in the second half on the far side of the pitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofho-CKSXX8

errlloyd · 04-10-2017 12:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been struggling to remember that game in detail all morning. I was trying to remember all the scores but for some reason could only remember the Leinster ones.

Anyway, here is the game if anyone would like to see it.

Forget the red card, forget the scoreline.

Backline - Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, Darcy, BOD, Horgan Nacewa.

Crowd - Amped up to the max, flags everywhere. Chants of "EZ, EZ, EZ". It looks like Ravenhill there.

We need to bring that interpro back to the RDS. That looks like no Leinester match I've been to in years.

stephen_n · 04-10-2017 12:08PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Forget the red card, forget the scoreline.

Backline - Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, Darcy, BOD, Horgan Nacewa.

Crowd - Amped up to the max, flags everywhere. Chants of "EZ, EZ, EZ". It looks like Ravenhill there.

We need to bring that interpro back to the RDS. That looks like no Leinester match I've been to in years.

No fear of Leinster missing out on the extra cash from having this in the Aviva. I'd imagine if Munster could get away with it, they'd probably move the reverse fixture to the Aviva too.

04-10-2017 12:13PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Forget the red card, forget the scoreline.

Backline - Reddan, Sexton, Fitzgerald, Darcy, BOD, Horgan Nacewa.

Crowd - Amped up to the max, flags everywhere. Chants of "EZ, EZ, EZ". It looks like Ravenhill there.

We need to bring that interpro back to the RDS. That looks like no Leinester match I've been to in years.

Had it been Leinster v Munster in the aviva for the pro12 final last season I think you'd have seen this kind of atmosphere.

irishbucsfan · 04-10-2017 12:15PM

It was the crest of the Leinstertainment wave. I don't think moving the fixture is all we need to do. It might require a trophy or two to build that atmosphere.

(well kinda the surge before the crest, it was after Cheika's Chosen brought us the success we deserved - and it was the same year we found ourselves in The Stoop)

irishfan9 · 04-10-2017 12:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Had it been Leinster v Munster in the aviva for the pro12 final last season I think you'd have seen this kind of atmosphere.

instead leinster collapsed.

Former Former · 04-10-2017 12:18PM

As much of a legend as John Hayes was, that stamp is one of the dirtiest, most dangerous and most unnecessary things I've seen from any Irish player, absolutely incredible.

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