Eir rural FTTH thread

ACLFC7 · 02-10-2017 03:57PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

The LE is signifying that it is the end of the cable run. It is assumed to mean line end. If you look at the map it should tally with where the yellow line ends although I have seen it extended in certain areas.

The bottom bit I don't know.

Cool, thanks. Yeah it matches with where the yellow line ends.

BorneTobyWilde · 02-10-2017 09:30PM

Phone is down last week too. No one has answers to that either.
Eir does not do VOIP right ? I had a phone line and a FTTH line, phone working up to a week ago, again I can't get an answer on why phone is not working.
Customer service is shocking.

stuck2007 · 02-10-2017 09:52PM

I saw someone post a picture of a splice box on social media in a rural area might be interesting to some of you...

The Cush · 02-10-2017 10:04PM

I posted these previously, nice to see one in situ

tsue921i8wljb3 · 02-10-2017 10:07PM

The Cush wrote: »

I posted these previously, nice to see one in situ

I'd guess the eight green connectors are for the drops to premises?

The Cush · 02-10-2017 10:15PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I'd guess the eight green connectors are for the drops to premises?

Safe guess, the 8:1 primary split ratio.

PaulieBeef · 03-10-2017 10:03AM

So my FTTH installation has finally started, albeit not as straightforward as i would have hoped. The existing ducting from my old phone line going to the pole was blocked, leaving me with two options - dig up my garden to look for the duct and sort it out or get a new pole installed and connect to the gable end of the house. KN have agreed to put in the pole in the adjacent field, but because of power lines they can't connect them above ground.

This leaves me with the responsibility to dig a trench and run underground ducting for the phone / fibre line from the existing pole to the new pole. My question is - does anyone know what type of ducting would be best for this job? One of the KN engineers mentioned something about roped ducting, but I'm not too familiar with what would be required.

vintagevrs · 03-10-2017 10:49AM

My ducting that the phone line used was blocked too. Another option is to use a rod to measure how far along the duct it is blocked and dig it up there.

Measure from both the pole and your house and hopefully you can confirm if you only have one blockage. If it's more than one might not be worth the hassle. For me it took very little time to sort, got the shovel out and dug up a hole in the garden where I had measured to and sure enough the duct was damaged there. I left the hole there until the fibre was installed and filled it the evening KN left.

plodder · 03-10-2017 11:34AM

There's a document you can request off Openeir that specifies ducting on private property. Basically, they recommend hydrodare with a minimum internal diameter of 32mm. It should be a continuous run of pipe (with access boxes if the run is very long). It's supposed to have a draw wire installed. Though I'm not sure how you can do that without specialised equipment. I guess ideally the work should be done by a contractor who would have all that.

PaulieBeef · 03-10-2017 11:53AM

vintagevrs wrote: »

My ducting that the phone line used was blocked too. Another option is to use a rod to measure how far along the duct it is blocked and dig it up there.

Measure from both the pole and your house and hopefully you can confirm if you only have one blockage. If it's more than one might not be worth the hassle. For me it took very little time to sort, got the shovel out and dug up a hole in the garden where I had measured to and sure enough the duct was damaged there. I left the hole there until the fibre was installed and filled it the evening KN left.

The house is about 13 years old so I wasn't certain which direction the duct went. The KN engineer reckoned the pole would be a better idea than digging up half the garden looking for it. The pole is being put up today anyway, so I might as well stick with that plan.

plodder wrote: »

There's a document you can request off Openeir that specifies ducting on private property. Basically, they recommend hydrodare with a minimum internal diameter of 32mm. It should be a continuous run of pipe (with access boxes if the run is very long). It's supposed to have a draw wire installed. Though I'm not sure how you can do that without specialised equipment. I guess ideally the work should be done by a contractor who would have all that.

Thanks. The run is roughly 60-70 metres long. The engineer just told me to lay the ducting between the poles, then they'll run the cables through for me. Any chance you have a link for requesting the ducting information?

plodder · 03-10-2017 12:03PM

PaulieBeef wrote: »

The house is about 13 years old so I wasn't certain which direction the duct went. The KN engineer reckoned the pole would be a better idea than digging up half the garden looking for it. The pole is being put up today anyway, so I might as well stick with that plan.

Thanks. The run is roughly 60-70 metres long. The engineer just told me to lay the ducting between the poles, then they'll run the cables through for me. Any chance you have a link for requesting the ducting information?

PM'd you or you can email fibrepower@openeir.ie to ask for it.

naughto · 03-10-2017 02:56PM

Off topic but this is the connection a poster got through the virgin media rool out what cable are they using?

https://imgur.com/a/7KKJT

Thread here

http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057741642/9

ED E · 03-10-2017 02:59PM

Thats MOCA by the looks of it. Weird. (Its a Co-ax cable).

EDIT: Yeah, seems Ziggo have been doing it for a couple years so that would line up with LG rolling it out.

naughto · 03-10-2017 03:03PM

ED E wrote: »

Thats MOCA by the looks of it. Weird. (Its a Co-ax cable).

EDIT: Yeah, seems Ziggo have been doing it for a couple years so that would line up with LG rolling it out.

So is it good bad what am I looking at is it for there tv as well

Chieftain · 03-10-2017 03:04PM

Has anyone come across Eir offering a service to lay the ducting for €250. I know someone who's installation couldn't go ahead because of an issue with finding the phonelines. He was then contacted to see if he could have the ducting laid for 250 (or 18.33 per month). I had a similar problem - the installers couldn't find where the phone lines were going into my house so the installation didn't go ahead. I've asked Eir about this service but anyone I've asked doesn't know anything about it

ED E · 03-10-2017 03:22PM

Are you sure its not KNN offering it?

ED E · 03-10-2017 03:26PM

naughto wrote: »

So is it good bad what am I looking at is it for there tv as well

Cant see any images of similar setups yet so trying to clarify the exact hardware.

plodder · 03-10-2017 03:58PM

ED E wrote: »

Are you sure its not KNN offering it?

That would make a lot of sense. I think I'd go for that if it was available. From their own point of view, they'd know what they are dealing with too.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 03-10-2017 04:06PM

Anyone needing to get rope through ducting a good trick is to tie a plastic bag to the rope, scrunch it up, push it in one end of the pipe. Get a decent hoover, stick it down the other end of the pipe and the bag and rope should be sucked through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEnRz3CPslo&app=desktop

Chieftain · 03-10-2017 04:19PM

ED E wrote: »

Are you sure its not KNN offering it?

I'm not too sure to be honest...maybe i'll give them a try. Its when I heard you could spread the cost that I presumed it was Eir

d31b0y · 03-10-2017 04:27PM

Same boat here re ducting. I sent KN an email to see if there is any interest in doing the work. I'll report back if they get back to me.
I sent it to the general KN info address so if someone has a contact email for someone who is involved in the actual FTTH role out within KN, I'd be interested in getting it.

Jpmarn · 03-10-2017 04:32PM

Any Plant Hire businesses should be able to help you in laying ducts from the house to an telephone pole or manhole. They would mainly use mini diggers to create a channel.

garroff · 03-10-2017 04:33PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Anyone needing to get rope through ducting a good trick is to tie a plastic bag to the rope, scrunch it up, push it in one end of the pipe. Get a decent hoover, stick it down the other end of the pipe and the bag and rope should be sucked through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEnRz3CPslo&app=desktop

I found bull-wire pushed through duct worked. Then attach 6mm poly rope and Bobs your whatnot

Jpmarn · 03-10-2017 04:45PM

Tomorrow is the 4th of October and the Fibre lines outside my house is supposed to come live. I have a pre order for a connection as soon the lines become live. But no fixed appointment for the installation yet. How soon will I get an call for installation after the live date?

cnocbui · 03-10-2017 05:33PM

garroff wrote: »

I found bull-wire pushed through duct worked. Then attach 6mm poly rope and Bobs your whatnot

Weird. I was after some bull wire a few months back and when I asked a couple neighbouring farmers, it turned out that is what they call barbed wire. When I tried to explain that what I thought was bull wire was very heavy guage plain galvanised wire, they seemed perplexed.

garroff · 03-10-2017 05:36PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Weird. I was after some bull wire a few months back and when I asked a couple neighbouring farmers, it turned out that is what they call barbed wire. When I tried to explain that what I thought was bull wire was very heavy guage plain galvanised wire, they seemed perplexed.

Your description of bull wire is correct. On a related issue has anyone used a small AM radio to find/trace route of existing telephone cable. It worked for me.

ED E · 03-10-2017 05:40PM

garroff wrote: »

Your description of bull wire is correct. On a related issue has anyone used a small AM radio to find/trace route of existing telephone cable. It worked for me.

Thats the procedure techs used when pair finding, "toner" on one end and off you go.

Gonzo · 03-10-2017 06:55PM

saw lots of work today along the Ashbourne-Ratoath road. Also more work in an area outside the yellow lines on the west side of Ratoath. This area appeared weird on map with a yellow line running from the town of Ratoath through fields out to a small road to connect a few houses, while missing lots of houses on the way to this location. Thankfully this is now changed with the line running along roads instead and taking in more houses.

I have attached a map with what has changed. My crude map attachment shows the 'yellow line' running thorugh fields in red and the thick yellow line is the new area wired up since today. i'm sure the homes along this route are breathing a sigh of relief that they will now get FTTH instead of waiting for the NBP.

Pangea · 03-10-2017 09:04PM

Nearly two weeks without Internet now. Lots of broken promises, Finally got speaking to a supervisor today. She promised to keep in contact and said they are working on it and it might be another week. Nothing I haven't heard before. Long story short my fibre broadband was still linked to my old dsl account and when that was cancelled so did the fibre. On top of that my two Eir bills were overcharged by nearly 70€ and I got a bill for my old dsl account. . I have had nothing but headaches ever since I ordered ftth.

superloopy · 04-10-2017 12:13PM

Three KN lads are outside. The day has finally arrived. 20 years later, one month after ordering FTTH and on my fourth order since then.

Sound lads. Dug a hole by the pole in my garden and said the pipe was disconnected. Only thing is the dp they were sent to first is ten miles away and I’m not supposed to be connected to this one. He said they were supposed to call back and get a new dp number. Could be fun yet.

They got their hands dirty and dug a good foot down. And luckily the pipe is unblocked and good to go. Wiring happening now.

Was supposed to be an afternoon install as well, got a call at 10am. Lucky I’m off for the day.

Fingers crossed.

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