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Blade Runner 2049 **Spoilers from post 444**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    peteeeed wrote: »
    1982 International release:
    more violence in certain scenes

    This is my preferred release of the film. It's the one that makes the most sense as well.

    I actually like the voiceover. It really suits the noirish feel of the picture. They were definitely going for that vibe with rain macs, tribly's, Rachel's hairdo, hardboiled burnt out detective, etc.

    Never understood the hate for it. To me it's no better or worse than any number of voiceovers you'd hear in a 1940's film noir classic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Tony EH wrote: »
    peteeeed wrote: »
    1982 International release:
    more violence in certain scenes

    This is my preferred release of the film. It's the one that makes the most sense as well.

    I actually like the voiceover. It really suits the noirish feel of the picture. They were definitely going for that vibe with rain macs, tribly's, Rachel's hairdo, hardboiled burnt out detective, etc.

    Never understood the hate for it. To me it's no better or worse than any number of voiceovers you'd hear in a 1940's film noir classic.
    After seeing the final version it’s hard to go back to the narration, it’s sounds a bit corny to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Tony EH wrote: »
    peteeeed wrote: »
    1982 International release:
    more violence in certain scenes

    This is my preferred release of the film. It's the one that makes the most sense as well.

    I actually like the voiceover. It really suits the noirish feel of the picture. They were definitely going for that vibe with rain macs, tribly's, Rachel's hairdo, hardboiled burnt out detective, etc.

    Never understood the hate for it. To me it's no better or worse than any number of voiceovers you'd hear in a 1940's film noir classic.
    After seeing the final version it’s hard to go back to the narration, it’s sounds a bit corny to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    peteeeed wrote: »
    After seeing the final version it’s hard to go back to the narration, it’s sounds a bit corny to me

    It's no more corny than what you'd hear in 'Double Indemnity' or even the likes of 'Sunset Boulevard'.

    I've always thought it just suited the setting they were trying to achieve.

    Either way, on the Blu you can watch the 1982 international cut with the voiceover on or off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    2nd prequel on youtube now:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Tony EH wrote: »
    It's no more corny than what you'd hear in 'Double Indemnity' or even the likes of 'Sunset Boulevard'.

    I've always thought it just suited the setting they were trying to achieve.

    Either way, on the Blu you can watch the 1982 international cut with the voiceover on or off.

    It may be that any time I've seen a noir-ish narration in the last twenty years it's been in a parody of the genre. I don't remember being annoyed by it in the 80s but now it just seemed unnecessary and, indeed, corny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Mr Starman


    Ridley just loves to patronize his audience with explanations because he's so much more clever than the rest of us.

    We see its noir therefore we know its noir, we don't need anymore BS layers than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Mr Starman wrote: »
    Ridley just loves to patronize his audience with explanations because he's so much more clever than the rest of us.

    We see its noir therefore we know its noir, we don't need anymore BS layers than that.

    Uhm, if you're talking about the Noir style narration, that wasn't Scott patronising the audience: he had nothing to do with that voiceover track, and was done behind his back by the studio after poor test screening. Harrison Ford didn't like the idea himself, and did a deliberately crappy job in the hopes it'd dissuade the financiers from releasing the version; obviously it didn't work.

    I honestly can't get behind anyone who says they 'prefer' the Theatrical Version, specifically the narration. It was dreadfully written, professionally slapdash, and all at the behest of a studio panicking over an intentionally ambiguous script. Ridley Scott has pulled a Lucas and tinkered a little too much with the film, but the narration was the first, and best decision made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,719 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I believe having a voice-over was originally Scott's idea because he wanted that noirish feel. It was in the early drafts of the script but reduced to almost nothing in a subsequent draft and then came back in limited form in the final draft. So there was a lot of dithering about it from the beginning. Then after the poor test screening, Scott at the studio's behest tried to expand and re-write the voice-over but could never make it work and he subsequently disowned it.

    I think *some* voice-over would have suited the film, but not the disastrous explainer narration that ended up in the finished film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Jfrost


    Going to watch the original once again on the big screen next week at The Lighthouse.
    Perfect preparation for the new one (which I'm refusing to get excited by (lesson learnt from Prometous), but still have to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Jfrost wrote: »
    Going to watch the original once again on the big screen next week at The Lighthouse.
    Perfect preparation for the new one (which I'm refusing to get excited by (lesson learnt from Prometous), but still have to see.

    its the final version being shown right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Jfrost


    Yeah, Final version


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    3rd prequel short


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ok, that was cool!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭emo72


    peteeeed wrote: »
    3rd prequel short

    I'm in the pub. I'll be checking it out tonight when I get home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    found it here but they are being taken down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Really cool anime. Beautifully animated. Nice to get a bit of back-story on "The Blackout".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    peteeeed wrote: »

    Full reviews are still embargoed, but from the first reactions to Blade Runner 2049 hitting the net seems to say that people were blown away would be the biggest understatement of the year

    The word "masterpiece" is being mentioned a lot!

    Many saying Denis Villeneuve has once again given us one of, if not the best films of they year and that they can just give Roger Deakins the Oscar now already for cinematography

    Oh this is important: https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/912708668809867264


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 nerohome


    In what cinema are you guys going to see the movie? And what format?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    This is looking great, loved the prequels too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    I’m going IMAX


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    nerohome wrote: »
    In what cinema are you guys going to see the movie? And what format?

    I'm going to be in Japan when I see it. Which is kinda cool, considering when I first saw the originally I was instantly obsessed with Japanese modern culture and wanted to go there.

    Even better, going to see it in a cinema with a giant Godzilla breaking out of it.

    japan-952026_960_720.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭emo72


    peteeeed wrote: »
    I’m going IMAX

    Where do we have an IMAX?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    .ak wrote: »
    ...considering when I first saw the originally I was instantly obsessed with Japanese modern culture and wanted to go there.

    'Blade Runner' doesn't have anything Japanese in it. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭emo72


    Tony EH wrote: »
    'Blade Runner' doesn't have anything Japanese in it. :confused:

    eh, the flying blimps? thats definitely japanese. and the metropolis itself, thats like tokyo. and i guess the oriental characters might have a japanese influence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Blimps aren't Japanese. The city is a future Los Angeles.

    It's also set in Chinatown.

    Every Asian character in the film is Chinese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭emo72


    I know it's Los Angeles/San Francisco, but the blimp with the Japanese girl? Seriously Tony, I see where the other guy is coming from, it's definitely got a Japanese vibe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    emo72 wrote: »
    Where do we have an IMAX?

    cineworld


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