Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

seligehgit · 27-09-2017 07:00AM

Lee Keegan won't face any disciplinary charges.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keegan-ogara-in-the-clear-36172671.html

Donal55 · 27-09-2017 07:22AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Lee Keegan won't face any disciplinary charges.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keegan-ogara-in-the-clear-36172671.html

Burying their heads in the sand for all three offences.
Everyone's happy I suppose.

yop · 27-09-2017 09:30AM

Donal55 wrote: »

Burying their heads in the sand for all three offences.
Everyone's happy I suppose.

Totally all 3 should have got a ban of some level.

Social meeedaaa in meltdown over Leroy!

:D:D

Whitehorse · 27-09-2017 10:22AM

PARlance wrote: »

Senior Club Championship back on this weekend. Was having a look online to see how the bookies viewed it but market not available yet. I premuse they'll wait for the QF stage.

Happened to click into the 2018 All Ireland betting. Mayo at 5/1... we'll probably get a better price if we get to a Semi Final They have Kerry back in as clear 2nd favs.

Any views on the Club championship? Mitchells seem to have been motoring along all Summer with plenty of competitive challenges up and down the Country. It'll be hard to look passed them again.

Mitchels were well beaten at the weekend by Breaffy (10 points) . As well as missing the 4 mayo players they seem to have a lot of injuries, four or five other regulars were missing. If they can get everyone back they will be hard beat but I do fancy Breaffy and Knockmore to put it up to them at the business end of things.
Had forgotten about the U-21 championship, when will that be played or has it started?

Shurimgreat · 27-09-2017 10:50AM

yop wrote: »

Totally all 3 should have got a ban of some level.

Social meeedaaa in meltdown over Leroy! :D:D

Putting on an objective hat (something many Dubs fans are incapable of) I think there should have been some kind of limited punishment for some of the cynical stuff in the game otherwise it gives a thumbs up to allow it to continue. I don't think there will be any more throwing of gps units in games, but interfering with a goalie trying to take a short kickout could easily become the norm.

Gael85 · 27-09-2017 11:33AM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Putting on an objective hat (something many Dubs fans are incapable of) I think there should have been some kind of limited punishment for some of the cynical stuff in the game otherwise it gives a thumbs up to allow it to continue. I don't think there will be any more throwing of gps units in games, but interfering with a goalie trying to take a short kickout could easily become the norm.

Agree something needs to be to cut off cynical stuff but GAA don't seen to having interest in taken action. 1. I would bring in sin bin and abolish black card 2.punish all cynical fouls with 21 metre free. Dublin were only doing what every winning team has been doing in last 5 years to close out a game. Mayo 2012 and Dublin 2013 brought cynical fouling to next level closing out games . Throw in 2014 Barry John Keane kicking ball off Paul Durcan tee. Kevin McLoughlin done same to Cluxton in league game around 2014. GAA don't care about that cynical stuff once Croke Park is full in August/September and there making money.

yop · 27-09-2017 11:48AM

Gael85 wrote: »

Agree something needs to be to cut off cynical stuff but GAA don't seen to having interest in taken action. 1. I would bring in sin bin and abolish black card 2.punish all cynical fouls with 21 metre free. Dublin were only doing what every winning team has been doing in last 5 years to close out a game. Mayo 2012 and Dublin 2013 brought cynical fouling to next level closing out games . Throw in 2014 Barry John Keane kicking ball off Paul Durcan tee. Kevin McLoughlin done same to Cluxton in league game around 2014. GAA don't care about that cynical stuff once Croke Park is full in August/September and there making money.

Exactly. IF Leroy had put Rock off I wouldn't be sorry for it. If Mayo players had been jumping all over the Dubs to stop them taking a quick kick-off I wouldn't complain.

But that said what they 2 lads did was unsporting behavior and should have been dealt with. The eye gouging is still inconclusive, while it looked like he did, only he and Boyle know the answer to that.

Gael85 · 27-09-2017 12:07PM

yop wrote: »

Exactly. IF Leroy had put Rock off I wouldn't be sorry for it. If Mayo players had been jumping all over the Dubs to stop them taking a quick kick-off I wouldn't complain.

But that said what they 2 lads did was unsporting behavior and should have been dealt with. The eye gouging is still inconclusive, while it looked like he did, only he and Boyle know the answer to that.

Agree a example should have been made of Keegan/Costello. I didn't think O'Gara gouged Boyle but did put his fist into his face which should have warranted some kind of a ban. If was league game in February he would have been banned. Think GAA need to have a serious look at cynical fouling as discipline/unsporting behaviour is a serious problem.

Oldtree · 27-09-2017 12:24PM

Have to wonder why the linesmen took such a back seat towards the end, havn't they read the rules? Clearly we are going to need 2 additional refs on each sideline and 2 tv refs for replays.

The Linesmen shall bring to the attention of the Referee, during a break in play, any instances of foul play, in particular rough or dangerous play, striking, hitting, or kicking, or unauthorised incursions onto the field of play, which have not been noticed by the Referee.

from the above newspaper article:

CCCC also looked at the incident involving O'Gara and Colm Boyle just before half-time where the Dublin's players hand came into clear contact with Boyle's face. But while slow-motion footage shows contact with the eye area the evidence was thought to be less conclusive in real time.

not really inconclusive unless you are already blind!

I dread to think how far it's going to go next year.

CatInABox · 27-09-2017 12:46PM

I think it's mad that the All-Ireland final has a different set of rules to the rest of the year, all in the name of "letting it flow". No matter what changes are made to the rules, this desire, which has a media campaign nearly every year, means that all the rules that are there for every other match, just don't apply. It's so frustrating.

With the trouble that they have matching cynical play to rules, perhaps they should introduce a kind of catch all rule, like "conduct unbecoming" or something like that. Probably won't catch anything on the day, but those three incidents do deserve some punishment.

Also, Andy Moran is a legend, loved that interview, very much a heart on the sleeve kind of thing. Earlier in the year I mentioned here that he should really be an impact sub, and then he goes and makes a total mockery of my opinion. Ah well.

seligehgit · 27-09-2017 01:25PM

They really should bring in a rule whereby a 21 yard free is awarded for that most cynical of black card offences trying to close out a game and prevent a score at any cost.

EICVD · 27-09-2017 01:53PM

If Boyle felt he was gouged why has he, or Mayo GAA not come out & said it publicly? I don't think anyone would call it sour grapes or being a bad loser because the hand in the face is obvious. The fact it's all quiet says there wasn't much in it. Also if Boyle didn't do a Vaughan the incident wouldn't of happened anyway!

flasher0030 · 27-09-2017 01:55PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Lee Keegan won't face any disciplinary charges.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keegan-ogara-in-the-clear-36172671.html

Charlie will go cracked. He still hasn't taken one minute to celebrate the 3 in a row. He's had the coverage on his laptop (of the GPS incident), and is watching it over and over again - his blood boiling higher and higher. He's about to do a Michael Douglas in Falling Down. HOW CAN THERE BE NO PUNISHMENT

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 27-09-2017 02:49PM

The sin bin was never really given a chance. Didn't even last to the end of that particular league camnpaign if I recall correctly.

seligehgit · 27-09-2017 04:26PM

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

The sin bin was never really given a chance. Didn't even last to the end of that particular league camnpaign if I recall correctly.

From what I recall Micky Harte was at the vanguard of those opposing the sin bin.It seemed like a great idea at the time.It should definitely be introduced,a lot could be learned from the ladies.While you're at it,introduce a clock.Take it totally out of the control of the referee.We could learn a lot from our rugby bretheren.

The high horse brigade · 27-09-2017 05:03PM

seligehgit wrote: »

From what I recall Micky Harte was at the vanguard of those opposing the sin bin.It seemed like a great idea at the time.It should definitely be introduced,a lot could be learned from the ladies.While you're at it,introduce a clock.Take it totally out of the control of the referee.We could learn a lot from our rugby bretheren.

I think that's their fear with the sin bin, they don't want to be seen as exactly copying rugby who have made so many great changes to bring the game forward

Martina1991 · 27-09-2017 05:19PM

I don't think the sin bin should be brought back. There are more cards in a football match than in rugby. There would be a lot of players going on and coming off.

I would like to see the clock counting down like in the ladies game or stopping like in rugby. We've seen referees in the past blowing up games too soon and playing well into injury time.

seligehgit · 27-09-2017 07:18PM

Leeroy has ruled himself out of heading to Oz for the international rules series.

Stoner · 27-09-2017 09:35PM

seligehgit wrote:

From what I recall Micky Harte was at the vanguard of those opposing the sin bin.It seemed like a great idea at the time.

I remember that, I wondered at the time how he had any say in it.
Did intercounty managers have a veto?

seligehgit · 27-09-2017 09:43PM

Stoner wrote: »

I remember that, I wondered at the time how he had any say in it.
Did intercounty managers have a veto?

I don't think they did but they made their views well known and never came on and gave it a chance.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaa-set-to-bin-the-has-been-sin-bin-1.407542%3fmode=amp#ampshare=https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaa-set-to-bin-the-has-been-sin-bin-1.407542

Shurimgreat · 28-09-2017 10:21AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Leeroy has ruled himself out of heading to Oz for the international rules series.

Are any mayo players going? A very long tough year for Mayo and the international rules series is something the players could do without. Give the chance to players from other counties.

charlie14 · 28-09-2017 12:26PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Are any mayo players going? A very long tough year for Mayo and the international rules series is something the players could do without. Give the chance to players from other counties.

Looking as if Dublin are thinking along those lines as well.

Bonniedog · 28-09-2017 01:00PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Leeroy has ruled himself out of heading to Oz for the international rules series.

He will be concentrating on his shot putt and discus skills for the Winter... sorry, I'll get my coat

mayo.mick · 28-09-2017 06:40PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Are any mayo players going? A very long tough year for Mayo and the international rules series is something the players could do without. Give the chance to players from other counties.

Lee has ruled himself out (injury?) I'm hearing Chris Barrett, Brendan Harrison and Aido have put themselves forward for selection

seligehgit · 28-09-2017 06:52PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

Lee has ruled himself out (injury?) I'm hearing Chris Barrett, Brendan Harrison and Aido have put themselves forward for selection

I heard he got engaged.:)

No great surprise with Aidan,he's partook previously both at home and in Oz.Perfectly suited to his game.

boosabum · 29-09-2017 10:58AM

I heard he's going travelling, word is there are a few of those lads going travelling for a period of time. Hopefully they'll be back by May

jr86 · 29-09-2017 11:34AM

Haha this travelling rumour goes around every single year!

Amprodude · 29-09-2017 11:56AM

jr86 wrote: »

Haha this travelling rumour goes around every single year!

Where did you hear that? Sources?

ProudDUB · 29-09-2017 04:16PM

Going travelling you say? Gosh, I hope they have a good GPS to help them find where they are going.

....I'll get me coat....the blue bomber jacket is yours Bonnie, yeah?

PARlance · 29-09-2017 04:42PM

ProudDUB wrote: »

Going travelling you say? Gosh, I hope they have a good GPS to help them find where they are going.

....I'll get me coat....the blue bomber jacket is yours Bonnie, yeah?

All your coats are on the ground. We thought you might prefer it down there.

And there's a tenner charge to collect them, some may call that gouging but it's open to interpretation.

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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