June London Terror Attack - Could've been Dublin

optimistic_ · 25-09-2017 09:43AM #1

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/war-on-terror/revealed-london-bridge-isis-groups-plot-to-attack-dublin-familyfriendly-spot-36162356.html

Well that's bloody terrifying.

bear1 · 25-09-2017 09:46AM

Yeah I was reading about that but I got the impression the Independent was sensationalising it.
It mentions they watched military institutions but that would seem strange wouldn't it?
Surely those would be the hardest to hit considering the weapons and training those inside would have.

optimistic_ · 25-09-2017 09:49AM

Agreed re the sensationalism of the story
The frustrating part of the story is the "family friendly location" part...what family friendly location? Are there areas in Dublin that are family unfriendly? Or do they mean family oriented places like zoos, parks, amusement parks..

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 25-09-2017 09:50AM

And before the usual apologists start making excuses or dismissing it because "rabble rabble Sunday Independent rabble rabble etc"....

Sources close to the woman say she gave gardai an 80- page statement giving details of all her interactions with Isis extremists both here and in the UK.

It is understood that her information has been assessed by counter-terrorism experts as highly credible.
It is believed she has been offered a place in a witness protection programme outside the State but this could not be confirmed yesterday.

Hopefully this will be a big wake up call to the authorities here. The cuddly drunken Paddy act isn't a defence strategy.

VinLieger · 25-09-2017 09:52AM

Typical sensationalist click bait stuff from the indo

Pkiernan · 25-09-2017 09:53AM

But you're all racists...

We need unlimited, uncontrolled, unchecked immigration especially from countries where minorities and women have no rights.

You're all racists...

Guy Sajer · 25-09-2017 09:54AM

I don't believe this for a second. I think UK are worried about the lack of security and entry point from Ireland to the UK as they have stated in the past and are scaring us into improving our own security.

Ralf and Florian · 25-09-2017 09:59AM

I've no doubt that Ireland is a potential target for this kind of attack but I'm sceptical about this 'Sister Aaliya', wan and some of her claims.

optimistic_ · 25-09-2017 10:00AM

Guy Sajer wrote: »

I don't believe this for a second. I think UK are worried about the lack of security and entry point from Ireland to the UK as they have stated in the past and are scaring us into improving our own security.

That would be all well and good and even (at a stretch) plausible - Only for the fact that this information as come from an Irish citizen who had become radicalised and had been associating with at least two of the people involved in the London attack

darkdubh · 25-09-2017 10:03AM

optimistic_ wrote: »

Agreed re the sensationalism of the story
The frustrating part of the story is the "family friendly location" part...what family friendly location? Are there areas in Dublin that are family unfriendly? Or do they mean family oriented places like zoos, parks, amusement parks..

A public area in Dublin thats not been taken over by junkies and winos? Should be easy enough to narrow it down.

Guy Sajer · 25-09-2017 10:03AM

optimistic_ wrote: »

That would be all well and good and even (at a stretch) plausible - Only for the fact that this information as come from an Irish citizen who had become radicalised and had been associating with at least two of the people involved in the London attack

I gathered the information was via anti terrorist agents and not a direct interview with her and the independent?

backspin. · 25-09-2017 10:06AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Typical sensationalist click bait stuff from the indo

This post has the potential to age very badly. I'm no fan of the indo but don't believe we are immune from attack.

weldoninhio · 25-09-2017 10:12AM

bear1 wrote: »

Yeah I was reading about that but I got the impression the Independent was sensationalising it.
It mentions they watched military institutions but that would seem strange wouldn't it?
Surely those would be the hardest to hit considering the weapons and training those inside would have.

No it doesn't.

bear1 · 25-09-2017 10:20AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

No it doesn't.

Ah i read military observations in a way that they were watching the military.

dav3 · 25-09-2017 10:22AM

Joe Public: The June attacks in London could have happened in Dublin and when I click on the link I can read evidence of this?

The Sunday Independent: Lol no, but if you click on the link you can view a number of advertisements displaying on your browser instead.

Anyway, it's good to see Paul "clickbait" Williams is on the case, we can all sleep easy in our beds tonight.

Nettle Soup · 25-09-2017 10:26AM

VinLieger wrote: »

Typical sensationalist click bait stuff from the indo

I know.

People love to fear.

optimistic_ · 25-09-2017 10:30AM

dav3 wrote: »

Joe Public: The June attacks in London could have happened in Dublin and when I click on the link I can read evidence of this?

The Sunday Independent: Lol no, but if you click on the link you can view a number of advertisements displaying on your browser instead.

Anyway, it's good to see Paul "clickbait" Williams is on the case, we can all sleep easy in our beds tonight.

No one denies the indo is a rag, but are you implying fabrication? There is substance to the article. As for excessive advertising...it is about as far from inrtusive as advertising can be on a non-sub site?

dav3 · 25-09-2017 10:36AM

optimistic_ wrote: »

No one denies the indo is a rag, but are you implying fabrication? There is substance to the article. As for excessive advertising...it is about as far from inrtusive as advertising can be on a non-sub site?

I'm implying that after what Paul Williams did to Sgt Maurice McCabe, everything he writes should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

The comments from the woman have been out in the public domain for some time, they've already been discussed, people can discuss them again.

optimistic_ · 25-09-2017 10:44AM

dav3 wrote: »

I'm implying that after what Paul Williams did to Sgt Maurice McCabe, everything he writes should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

The comments from the woman have been out in the public domain for some time, they've already been discussed, people can discuss them again.

Fair enough, agree that what happened with McCabe is a disgrace but also believe Williams to have been a pawn.

The information may have been public, but a large circle of people I have discussed with have not been aware of it. If anything this should increase vigilance in city centre spaces, awareness of surroundings, I don't think that's a bad thing.
It's a sobering thought to think that a white van could have milled across O'Connell Bridge - the sheer numbers at the pedestrian lights there would have meant an incomprehensibly higher casualty and death rate than the london Bridge attack

darkdubh · 25-09-2017 10:46AM

dav3 wrote: »

I'm implying that after what Paul Williams did to Sgt Maurice McCabe, everything he writes should be taken with a very large pinch of salt.

The comments from the woman have been out in the public domain for some time, they've already been discussed, people can discuss them again.

I've thought that about him for years. Always found something very false and self serving about him in his TV appearances.

super_furry · 25-09-2017 11:12AM

It's witten by Paul Williams so I'd take it with a massive pinch of salt. Really find it hard to give him any credibility since he had his career on the back of glorifying gangsters and murderers.

Still very worrying if there's any truth to it,

expectationlost · 25-09-2017 11:38AM

optimistic_ wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/war-on-terror/revealed-london-bridge-isis-groups-plot-to-attack-dublin-familyfriendly-spot-36162356.html

Well that's bloody terrifying.

Why hasn't Sister Aaliya been charged w/ withhold info on terror & fraud?

expectationlost · 25-09-2017 11:39AM

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

And before the usual apologists start making excuses or dismissing it because "rabble rabble Sunday Independent rabble rabble etc"....

It is understood that her information has been assessed by counter-terrorism experts as highly credible.

.

why does that sentence mean anything, here's another sentence

Irish Times https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...blin-1.3232377

the woman previously said meetings between extremists she knew were conducted in languages she did not understand and therefore information was hard to corroborate, says senior Garda sources

expectationlost · 25-09-2017 11:42AM

optimistic_ wrote: »

That would be all well and good and even (at a stretch) plausible - Only for the fact that this information as come from an Irish citizen who had become radicalised and had been associating with at least two of the people involved in the London attack

who previously said she didn't understand the languages they were speaking https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-woman-who-met-london-attacker-claims-there-are-150-extremists-living-in-ireland-1.3114269

donegaLroad · 25-09-2017 12:31PM

She said the Islamists "laugh" at Ireland because they see the country as being "backward and behind the times" in the authorities' assessment of the threat of radical Islam.

It is believed that the two jihadists were convinced to change their plans because Raza believed that Ireland would suit Isis's cause better as a logistics base and somewhere to carry out internet frauds to raise funds.

enough said in these two lines, if there is any truth in it.

WoollyRedHat · 25-09-2017 01:06PM

I wonder which tosser wrote this piece in the indo...

Beechwoodspark · 25-09-2017 01:12PM

A chilling read thanks for posting the link OP

We as a state need to get serious about this threat.

A lot of people seem to be under the illusion that Ireland is immune to such attacks.

Hammer89 · 25-09-2017 01:12PM

Has Paul Williams made up any nicknames yet or linked any of them to the Kinahan cartel? Raza, also known as the muslim hoodlum, and Sister 'The Viper' Aliyah.

WoollyRedHat · 25-09-2017 01:21PM

If they were really interested in doing some investigative journalism into any potential threats, why don't they start looking into some of the alleged hate preaching which is rumored to be happening around some of the country's mosques. They should also seriously look into funding of cells from here, which they just about touch upon in the article.

Our media outlets should also be asking why our political classes are not more vocal in their criticism of rogue states like Saudia Arabia and Quatar, and our next door neighbors abhorrent arms deal with SA. Are there any actions involving the state that support and facilitate the funding of Wahhabism directly; or indirectly, how do we stop it? These are proper, in depth questions journalists should be asking. Of course little hope of the likes of Paul Williams asking these, doesn't really do investigative journalism, sensationalism sells and is easier to do.

greencap · 25-09-2017 01:34PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

A chilling read thanks for posting the link OP

We as a state need to get serious about this threat.

A lot of people seem to be under the illusion that Ireland is immune to such attacks.

a lot of offense-monkeys on here dismissing the story lest it sully the good name of islam.

25-09-2017 01:35PM

Starts off with sensationalist headline. Takes half the page to actually get back to the original point. Whether or not it is accurate in information... the article was written purely for clicks and ad revenue. You see at least 2 ads before you even get to the meat of the article.

Typical behaviour of a rag.

June London Terror Attack - Could've been Dublin

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