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Trans-Age is now a thing

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  • #92
    s3rtvdbwfj81ch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Its all wrong...you cannot just decide you are 6 years old and expect everyone to address you as such,its mental illness plain and simple.

    Right,whatever about changing from 52 year old John to 52 year old Jane,crack on do what pleases you but its simply delusional to turn from 52 year old John to 6 year old Jane.

    why are they different? Explain the difference


  • #93
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Theodore Billions Vapidity wrote: »
    why are they different? Explain the difference

    You cant change your age because you just fcuking feel like it.


  • #94
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Theodore Billions Vapidity wrote: »
    why are they different? Explain the difference

    Why are they comparable?

    Have you a defence for this insanity?


  • #95
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    You cant change your age because you just fcuking feel like it.

    There are probably some legal issues. Apart from that, why not?


  • #96
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    There are probably some legal issues. Apart from that, why not?

    Are you for real?....the person is 52 years old,not 6.
    Does it look like a 6 year old to you,boy or girl?
    Its really that simple.


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  • #97
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Are you for real?....the person is 52 years old,not 6.
    Does it look like a 6 year old to you,boy or girl?
    Its really that simple.

    But why can't they decide to live as a six year old girl?


  • #98
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    robyntmorton wrote: »
    There appears to be two separate things going on here.

    The first is being transgender, and going through transition as such. Fine. Many people are transgender, and do transition, myself included.

    The second seems to be linked to infantilism, though it may not be the exact word I need. She (from reading the Daily Mail article - not something I usually recommend) appears to have struggled with rejection through adulthood and transitioning - a failed marriage, loss of contact with family, the loss of work as a mechanic, and decided that the most simple thing to do was to go back to a time when that wasn't an issue - that time being childhood. Where I am struggling to wrap my head around it, is that there is still a major presence of mind and logical thought process going on - the "sibling" doesn't want to be the youngest, but it's okay, because Stefonknee can go from being 8 to 6, and she knows she needs to work, so she plows driveways at the weekend.

    This is where I am struggling, and while I do believe it is important for people to support others, maybe the support needed is that of a professional, to work through these things, instead of just accepting that "she says she's 6, so she's 6, and we'll adopt her, but let her plow driveways at the weekend, and be a trans activist on other days"

    Seems to me to be largely a sexual thing. I haven't read the linked dm article but I remember from the first time around the sexual relationship between stephonknee and the father and the creepy terms it was described in ie they role play that the guy is having sex with his 6 year old daughter

    I suppose your own family taking out a restraining order against you due to your abusive behaviour could be considered as "rejection" by a person with a victim complex but I don't see how his wife and kids are to blame in any way


  • #99
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    But why can't they decide to live as a six year old girl?

    Because they are not 6 years old.


  • #100
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    castletownman wrote:
    Societal standards and norms are reaching dangerous levels. Forced to accept everything that wasn't a thing a decade ago, because you know the "faux outrage" internet brigade/campaign groups will hound you into submission otherwise.

    A decade or two ago people would have said the same about having a referendum on Gay marriage.


  • #101
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Seriously folks.

    You are being trolled. By the daily mail.

    How are people not seeing that?


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  • #102
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Because they are not 6 years old.

    That won't stop a person choosing to live their life as a six year old.


  • #103
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    There are probably some legal issues. Apart from that, why not?

    The only way you can change your age legally is if you can prove it was wrong in the first place.
    That or witness protection (not sure about irelands)
    but even then, not by 50 feckin years.

    The chap is mentally ill, should be put in a hospital.


  • #104
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    A decade or two ago people would have said the same about having a referendum on Gay marriage.

    All those gay people pretending to be little kids?
    Funny I dont recall anything as absurd in the past 20 years.


  • #105
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    That won't stop a person choosing to live their life as a six year old.

    They can choose it and I can call them mentally ill.


  • #106
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    But why can't they decide to live as a six year old girl?

    If you are asking that question... Then there is nothing anyone, anywhere in this world could say to change your mind.


  • #107
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Seriously folks.

    You are being trolled    . By the daily mail....

    nope :(

    https://twitter.com/Stefonknee


  • #108
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    Because they are not 6 years old.

    That's not very PC of you.

    A few years ago people said the same about trans. It's a whole new world now.

    We can't be asked to accept one thing and not another.


  • #109
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    They can choose it and I can call them mentally ill.

    Sure, you can do that. And they can choose to live as a six year old.


  • #110
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    That's not very PC of you.

    A few years ago people said the same about trans. It's a whole new world now.

    We can't be asked to accept one thing and not another.

    Im not very PC.

    Trans are ok,no bother.
    52 year old men pretending to be 6 year old girls can fcuk off to the mad house.


  • #111
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Sure, you can do that. And they can choose to live as a six year old.

    I dont believe they should be allowed.


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  • #112
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Sure, you can do that. And they can choose to live as a six year old.

    They can do what they want but someone with a history of violence and a sexual fetish for pretending to be a 6 year old girl should not be around children


  • #113
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We can't be asked to accept one thing and not another.

    Of course you can.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #114
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    gctest50 wrote: »
    nope :(

    https://twitter.com/Stefonknee

    Not saying he/she/whatever clown doesn't exist. There's 5 or 6 or whatever billion people on this planet. Anything and everything exists.

    You're still being trolled. This is not 'a thing'.


  • #115
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Trojan Hearse wrote: »
    If he has independent means then let him go for it, as long as he respects the gender norms in our society.

    However if he is not independently wealthy how will he support himself as no one will hire this freak? and he should not be entitled to social welfare if chooses to live like this.

    From reading the article, he seems to be doing just fine living as he chooses to be. I would think that an employer should concern themselves as to whether he is competent to do the job or not. Ditto the state regarding welfare. Again, the article makes no mention of any law being broken by his choice.


  • #116
    gitzy16v
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    They can do what they want but someone with a history of violence and a sexual fetish for pretending to be a 6 year old girl should not be around children

    I didnt know there was that history with him.
    Guess my senses were correct when I thought it was wrong to just transform into a little girl from a old man.


  • #117
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,228 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    I dont believe they should be allowed.

    If there is no harm in it in terms of abuse etc I'm not sure how you can ban it.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #118
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gitzy16v wrote: »
    I dont believe they should be allowed.

    Then you should vote for a party that promises to make such choices illegal. Or put yourself up for election.


  • #119
    lifeandtimes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭lifeandtimes


    Just because he says hes 6 doesn't mean he won't be tried as such in court if he did something illegal. He'll probably then and there plea the insanity defense and will get away it

    He won't be going to school or doing anything in public that a 6 year old does and will literally live day to say stuck in that house with his adoptive parents.

    Other questions can be raises like can be claim the dole,is any savings he earned during this life revert to the guardianship of his adoptive parents,has he actually changed everything by law or just living this fantasy that he can snap out of anytime and srill have his 52 year old life to go back too bar a few less people wanting anything to do with him


  • #120
    LETHAL LADY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Ta ****, there's saner in Dundrum!


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  • #121
    Christy42
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    2Mad2BeMad wrote: »
    The only way you can change your age legally is if you can prove it was wrong in the first place.
    That or witness protection (not sure about irelands)
    but even then, not by 50 feckin years.

    The chap is mentally ill, should be put in a hospital.

    I think the point is they can choose to live as a 6 year old and there is not much we can do to stop them.

    Note the person is very obviously not 6 years old. They are not a 6 year old in a man's body either (I love the saying about inner child and people should feel free to let their inner child loose but it is merely a saying for doing fun childish stuff and having a sense of wonder) nor do they appear to have their mental growth stunted (though I am obviously not a professional). However they are still free to do what they like as long as someone is willing to enable them (can't really act like a 6 year old if you have to go collect dole/earn money yourself) even if others do not agree (as in there is no legal recourse to stop this)/

    I don't think they are arguing that the person should be given any of the legal benefits of being a child.


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