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High Noon with George Hook.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Lt Dan wrote:
    "racist", "racism" " Bigot" or my favorite , "stupid bigot" (as if any bigots were clever?) " Xenophobia" "Xenophobic" , "liberal", "left wing" , "right wing", "snow flake", "homophobic",

    Lt Dan wrote:
    These are just a few terms that get thrown about by people ,and they are loosing all meaning


    As soon as I see the word snowflake in a post I ignore the whole post. Very well made point lt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    monstermag wrote: »
    Pretty safe but not bad

    Fintan O'Toole is an excellent writter. I might often not agree with his opinions but his stuff is always well written.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    pilly wrote: »
    As soon as I see the word snowflake in a post I ignore the whole post. Very well made point lt.

    But these people should not be ignored.

    They should be challenged, when they are using terms incorrectly. Some times, there is legitimacy for the terms

    They and their argument should be ripped apart for every other readers to see. Humiliate them, expose them for the lying/retarded people that they are.

    Would be better if they just got kicked instead. Moderators won't do a thing though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    There are terms that get used to try and shut down conversations ... But, when they get used , they are often used when they are utterly inappropriate and have zero basis ...

    failure to use the terms in a correct manner , depending on the seriousness of the allegation , would meet with warning, bans, demands to retract statements etc.
    Lt Dan wrote: »
    expose them for the lying/retarded people that they are.

    Eh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Fintan O'Toole is an excellent writter. I might often not agree with his opinions but his stuff is always well written.
    He can write I will concede. Pity what he writes about. Does not excuse him for being the most sanctimonious man in Ireland, nay Europe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    But these people should not be ignored.

    They should be challenged, when they are using terms incorrectly. Some times, there is legitimacy for the terms

    They and their argument should be ripped apart for every other readers to see. Humiliate them, expose them for the lying/retarded people that they are.

    Would be better if they just got kicked instead. Moderators won't do a thing

    Typical liberal bull**** - lack the mental fortitude to put forward a counter argument? Just shout them down instead and threaten them personally. It's utterly pathetic but it's the only way the PC softies can feel like they have any relevance to a topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    Typical liberal bull**** - lack the mental fortitude to put forward a counter argument? Just shout them down instead and threaten them personally. It's utterly pathetic but it's the only way the PC softies can feel like they have any relevance to a topic.

    It helps to read all the relevant posts before you jump in feet first. You don't look like such an idiot then.
    People should be allowed to go through a discussion without their eyes burning reading complete and utter ill informed tosh. (both sides do it)A lot of assumptions get made by posters who simply either (a) Did not read what was said (b) Did not understand what was said or (c) Is limited in knowledge about the topic, but refuse to accept that. It is not a case of being a cry baby, but a case of lies and stupidity should not be tolerated.

    Mods are selective on what they do, and they can't catch everything. But, at least the rest of the readers can expose the spoofers, chancers, etc

    Terms like

    "racist", "racism" " Bigot" or my favorite , "stupid bigot" (as if any bigots were clever?) " Xenophobia" "Xenophobic" , "liberal", "left wing" , "right wing", "snow flake", "homophobic",


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    It helps to read all the relevant posts before you jump in feet first. You don't look like such an idiot then.

    I saw enough to make my own opinion, from what else you quoted I don't see any reason to rescind what I said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    I saw enough to make my own opinion, from what else you quoted I don't see any reason to rescind what I said.

    If you think totally missing the point is worth standing over then good for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Typical liberal bull**** - lack the mental fortitude to put forward a counter argument? Just shout them down instead and threaten them personally. It's utterly pathetic but it's the only way the PC softies can feel like they have any relevance to a topic.

    Boxing people off 'typical liberal, PC softies etc.' and dismissive terms shouldn't be countered, but pitied. Even in the face of scientific fact you get 'fake news'. That's pretty sad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    Micheal Grahame is on talkradio tonight in for James Whale .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭monstermag


    There's no doubt that Ciara Kelly has been angling for George Hook's slot over the last few years , but l get the feeling she wouldn't have wanted it to happen in this manner, in fact it could damage her long term prospects of keeping the gig.The Newstalk 20 may have inadvertently dealt her a fatal blow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    When will there be a resolution to this?! George deserves a bit of clarity. How long will it be drawn out? It's intolerable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    I turned over twice today when the news at one wasn't interesting to me. The first time she was talking to someone about crisps and the second time she was talking about bread. Meh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,880 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    sligojoek wrote: »
    I turned over twice today when the news at one wasn't interesting to me. The first time she was talking to someone about crisps and the second time she was talking about bread. Meh.

    Was listening to her in the car on Monday. First item was a discussion of hospital waiting lists, second one about some political scandal in Iceland. Guaranteed winner at the next JNLRs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    So far, the show's not the worst, and I think she's competent enough as a presenter, but I don't rate the content for a lunchtime show. Should really be 'newsier' for that slot. I can see the format working at, say, 11 to 1 on a weekend day. Dislike the Irish equivalent of the 'jolly hockey sticks' voice as well.

    After 'the great upheaval', I thought Cuddihy and Healy (or was it Coleman?!) worked well as a double act in the Drive slot. That combo would be worth trying at noon, in my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Five Green Bottles


    Dr. Kelly is lightweight and way too lightweight for a newsier show, doesn't really question current affairs so much but probably will when she's more up to speed on general interest rather than the feminist agenda that she likes to push


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    I've switched over by mistake a few times when I've heard the Ronan Collins music starting. You can hear from her voice that she's incredibly happy with the way that things have panned out, and really wants that job full time. I know that serious career people should not necessarily put loyalty in front of progressing their own careers, but I've never been comfortable with standing on somebody else's head to get to the top. Ciara Kelly can pretend that this is just serendipity, that all of these events occurred around her and it was nothing to do with her. But her contrived silence buried George, when a real friend would have spoken out in support of him (if not in support of his remarks).

    Even if you listen back to the Marian Finucane, when she eventually spoke out... (after she was sitting in George's seat)... at least three of the texts read out were "How could you take over his job?", so she's not fooling anybody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The market will decide. And I haven't tuned in to newstalk (apart from an hour of pat kenny) since george was pulled and I suspect I'm not alone in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Has there been an actual announcement about George's dismissal?

    Did I not hear he was meant to be suspended for four days? (Starting about a week after he made the comments. I should stay away from this entire story, it just makes me angry).

    I wanna hear George blathering on about The Maltese Falcon or something today. Bring him back for f*ck sake.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Dr. Kelly is lightweight and way too lightweight for a newsier show, doesn't really question current affairs so much but probably will when she's more up to speed on general interest rather than the feminist agenda that she likes to push

    What feminist agenda is she pushing? I'll admit that I haven't been listening too closely - I'm only at my desk sparodically from 12-1 and don't normally listen to any radio on my lunch hour but I didn't think she was ott in that department. Maybe it's something I'm not that sensitive about…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Jubo


    The market will decide. And I haven't tuned in to newstalk (apart from an hour of pat kenny) since george was pulled and I suspect I'm not alone in this.

    No - you're not alone. That's exactly what I'm doing because of Ciara Kelly and this fiasco.
    Also can't stick Paul Williams in the morning but listened reluctantly up til the 'George' incident but I've now done a complete cull of Newstalk bar the Pat Kenny show. He showed himself to be a gentleman and a professional so I'm rewarding him by listening :D I certainly didn't agree with everything George said on a range of issues but he has been annihilated for this particular opinion in a very nasty, unnecessary way.

    Unfortunately, the alternative to the Breakfast show (Morning Ireland) is as dull as ditch water :o Oh god its painful. I like my presenters with a bit of spark, whether I agree with them or not.

    I fill in the gaps now with LBC/Talk Radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    What feminist agenda is she pushing? I'll admit that I haven't been listening too closely - I'm only at my desk sparodically from 12-1 and don't normally listen to any radio on my lunch hour but I didn't think she was ott in that department. Maybe it's something I'm not that sensitive about…

    She is a woman talking. That's lately enough for some to spout about feminist agenda.

    I think the show was tailored around George and his interests, if Ciara Kelly continues they should find some regular features that suit her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Kenny, Moncrieff and OTB are the only things I have any interest on Newstalk and admittedly OTB is only on in the car on the way home if I'm after working late. The breakfast show is absolutely painful and Yates I can't abide. I'd share little to none of George Hook's views but I tended to leave him on to get the view of the other side of the fence so to speak. He kind of grew on me like mould would on bread. His comments were a tad stupid but probably reflective of what a lot of people think. It could have been a good opportunity to create discussion about the issue instead of turning it into the witch hunt it become. I fear discussion between opposing points of view seems to have become a thing of the past in the twitter age we live in. Also, if it is the end of George's broadcasting career, it is a terrible way for it to end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    I've never been comfortable with standing on somebody else's head to get to the top. Ciara Kelly can pretend that this is just serendipity, that all of these events occurred around her and it was nothing to do with her. But her contrived silence buried George, when a real friend would have spoken out in support of him (if not in support of his remarks).

    100%.

    Made all the worse by the fact that it was George who built her up and gave her a platform in the first place.. She wouldn't have any media career without George..

    It's a despicable trait in someone's character imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Swanner wrote: »
    100%.

    Made all the worse by the fact that it was George who built her up and gave her a platform in the first place.. She wouldn't have any media career without George..

    It's a despicable trait in someone's character imo.

    I'm genuinely trying to figure out what she did wrong here. Did she force him to say what he said? And did she not defend him on Marian Finucane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Is there anything to be said for bringing back Eamon Keane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    I'm genuinely trying to figure out what she did wrong here. Did she force him to say what he said? And did she not defend him on Marian Finucane?

    I'm with you. I don't see what she's done wrong. Someone had to stand in, she has pretty much his stand in for a while now.

    And apart from being a little preachy (it is Newstalk, to be fair), I actually kinda like her on the radio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    I'm genuinely trying to figure out what she did wrong here. Did she force him to say what he said? And did she not defend him on Marian Finucane?

    She waited in the wings for a full week as the mob descended and ripped him apart. She waited till he was critically wounded and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    If she had any loyalty at all she would have spoken up in support of him straight away, especially given that she thinks he's "One of the most gender blind people I've ever worked with". But she didn't and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    It suited her to say too little too late so that exactly what's she did..

    And look at her now..

    One step closer to that job she so desperately wants..

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/id-like-marian-finucanes-job-dr-ciaras-ambitions-for-more-radio-success-35076322.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Swanner wrote: »
    She waited in the wings for a full week as the mob descended and ripped him apart. She waited till he was critically wounded and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    If she had any loyalty at all she would have spoken up in support of him straight away, especially given that she thinks he's "One of the most gender blind people I've ever worked with". But she didn't and she knew exactly what she was doing.

    It suited her to say too little too late so that exactly what's she did..

    And look at her now..

    One step closer to that job she so desperately wants..

    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/id-like-marian-finucanes-job-dr-ciaras-ambitions-for-more-radio-success-35076322.html

    He was suspended on the Friday and she talked to Marian on the Saturday. Her silence on the issue beforehand could easily be put down to management at the station telling people working there not to get involved with the controversy.

    But, sure let's paint her as a plotting Lady Macbeth feminist because she has boobies… that's way more fun.


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